Entre_Perpetuo Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 .Yes Announce New Album ‘The Quest’.11 hours ago The cover art looks great, Roger Dean doesn't disappoint. However without Squire in this version of the band, and with Anderson and Wakeman still out there but not with the band anymore, not to mention with Bruford being retired and White barely playing live (and apparently being supplemented in the studio as well)... is this really Yes? Is it Yes just because it's got Steve Howe? Is it Yes because it's got Steve Howe, a bit of Alan White, and the guy Chris Squire gave permission to replace him? Is it Yes because it says Yes on the sleeve? And of course what do you think it'll sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 I guess I didn't realize Geoff Downes is also in this incarnation of the band. I can see how he's in the version with Howe since they left Yes together after Drama to form Asia. However Drama was also Downes' first album with Yes, and his last until the 2010s. I've always been aware of his name in the Yes pantheon, but compared to Wakeman or Kaye, I'm not sure he has much ground to stand on for being a classic member of Yes. He and Moraz both only did one album from the classic era. Kaye and Wakeman each did multiple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordgalaxy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 In name only. I gave up on them several years ago when they decided to tour even though Jon Anderson was ill and couldn't and basically kicked him out. I mean heck, he was only one of the founding members of the band, but screw him and his lung issues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepphead Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) For me not really. To be honest I have struggled with the concept of a Yes without Jon Anderson, but at least over the years the one constant had been Chris Squire.With Chris gone I just have no interest at all now. Edited July 8, 2021 by zepphead 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The most important quest ion will be: Is it any good or not?...all will be forgiven if it is..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) I'm not even a Yes fan and I can tell you that's not Yes. It's Uh-huh, maybe, or possibly Aye, or even Yeah if I'm being generous but it sure as heck isn't Yes. Edited July 8, 2021 by GeddysMullet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I'm not even a Yes fan and I can tell you that's not Yes. It's Uh-huh, maybe, or possibly Aye, or even Yeah if I'm being generous but it sure as heck isn't Yes.Yup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbear05 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Hell f*kkin' NO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It's like Black Sabbath after Born Again. Tony Martin, Cozy Powell and Neil Murray are not Black Sabbath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 not really. i'll probably play it cause i'll try anything. hey if it's good i won't care honestly. Mick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Yes turned into a Maybe YEARS ago, and for more than a decade they have become a solid NO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) They have run out of gas. But then they release From a Page as an afterthought, and it turns out be pretty damn good. And Fly From Here is solidly good latter day Yes. But of course both feature the irreplaceable Chris Squire. I think Howe is now the leader of the group, and he seems to be basically not competent at that. Do another Union tour with Jon, Rick and Trevor Rabin and then hang it the f**k up. Edited July 8, 2021 by chemistry1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 If it's a great album, then I'd have to say- NO. Still not Yes. Good or bad is irrelevant. At some point, over a certain amount of time, it has to reflect some manner of a constant for the name to mean anything. Calling it 'Yes' will sell more copies. And that's a regrettable cynicism. Just call it something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_World_Man Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) It's still technically Yes because it's descended from the band that had Chris Squire in it. Also, Chris basically appointed Billy Sherwood to be his replacement before he died so there's no reason why they shouldn't still call themselves Yes. If anything the band that recorded 90125 shouldn't have called themselves Yes but they did so mainly because they brought Jon on board as the singer. However, just because Jon A. is not on this album doesn't mean it's not a Yes record. After all, Drama didn't have Jon on it and that's still a Yes album. If this shouldn't be called Yes because no Jon then Drama shouldn't have been called Yes either. Yes was never about just one member. Edited July 10, 2021 by New_World_Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 It's still technically Yes because it's descended from the band that had Chris Squire in it. Also, Chris basically appointed Billy Sherwood to be his replacement before he died so there's no reason why they shouldn't still call themselves Yes. If anything the band that recorded 90125 shouldn't have called themselves Yes but they did so mainly because they brought Jon on board as the singer. However, just because Jon A. is not on this album doesn't mean it's not a Yes record. After all, Drama didn't have Jon on it and that's still a Yes album. If this shouldn't be called Yes because no Jon then Drama shouldn't have been called Yes either. Yes was never about just one member. To me, I'm thinking more and more Yes isn't just about one member, but it's about having the right combination of players. The current combination doesn't feel like Yes to me, even if Squire did appoint Sherwood as his replacement, why can't we get Anderson in the band, or Kaye, or Wakeman? Geoff Downes was barely in Yes before jetting off to do Asia. I can understand the current drummer dilemma. You've got Alan White, but he can barely play anymore, but outright letting him go would be worse than keeping him on for whatever he can still do. Besides, the only other guy anyone wants to see behind the kit is Bruford, who's long retired from music. Even just one more guy from some version of the classic lineup who can play through the whole show with Howe would be much more like Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing1202 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) I saw the ARW tour and that was so much more Yes then the HOWE version. Anderson couldn't have sounded better that night to the point Heart Of The Sunrise made me cry. Let's face it, Most of these guys need the touring money so why not burry the hatchet and say goodbye. The fans deserve it. We have put up with all the craziness over the years and YES with Howe is a cover band. Edited July 11, 2021 by Missing1202 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I'm not super attached to any one lineup of Yes because that band has always been kind of a revolving door but I've been out since Jon Anderson left. I'm actually a huge fan of Drama even though he wasn't on that album but that's a different thing to me because Horn and Downes came in and brought their own sound to it so it was unique and still "in the spirit" of Yes. Kicking Jon out because he couldn't tour and hiring a soundalike from a tribute band is wack to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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