BeOhBe Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) OK so still a fan of Eddie Junk in his Trunk and That Metal Show, I watched last night's ep, was entertained by his anti rock n roll hall of shame and disgrace shirt sent in by another fan. The guests kicked ass...John Sykes and MIKE PORTNOY who discussed their upcoming release YES TOGETHER, Mike said it's gonna sound old school metal/hard rock. Jim Florentine and Don Jamieson asked if the songs are gonna be less than 20 mins long, and can he deal with that and then came the throwdown Which is the better album, Permanent Waves or Moving Pictures and why Edited October 10, 2011 by BeOhBe Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeOhBe Bob Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 I voted MP last night and tonight too. It's the bridge from everything they've done, to everything that was about to open up to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFireYYZ Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'm going with Permanent Waves. Moving Pictures is great but PW gets my vote because Natural Science is one of my favorite Rush songs. The Spirit of Radio is the perfect opener and I'll never get tired of it. I'd be in heaven if they played this album in its entirety live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Moving Pictures, as overplayed as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarJetman Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Moving Pictures. It sounds fuller and richer, and the songs flow much more naturally. Also, while it doesn't have an equivalent to "Natural Science", it at least doesn't grind to a halt in the middle like Permanent Waves does with "Jacob's Ladder" (a song which does have a counterpart on Moving Pictures, and a superior one, in "The Camera Eye"). I like Permanent Waves, but it just feels uneven next to the consistency and cohesiveness of Moving Pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaveMyThingAlone Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Seems we've had this poll on here before. Still say Permanent Waves because Side 2 is so much stronger than MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3strukt Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 MP does NOT flow well. Vital Signs doesn't even FIT on MP. So it comes to a screeching halt with our hero being chased by the mob. Then it goes into some fancy lyrical shit that sounds like it's about computers. I love Vital Signs, I really do. But it's a signals song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnotes Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 50/50 for me or at least depends on the mood im in....Listening to Jacobs Ladder as i type... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowItIs Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Man, that's a toughie. I think MP does flow well, and it inches out PW by a hair. But only a hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (D3strukt @ Oct 9 2011, 11:54 PM) MP does NOT flow well. Vital Signs doesn't even FIT on MP. So it comes to a screeching halt with our hero being chased by the mob. Then it goes into some fancy lyrical shit that sounds like it's about computers. I love Vital Signs, I really do. But it's a signals song. Totally agree. When I was first getting into Rush years ago, I kept forgetting that Vital Signs wasn't on Signals - "signals get crossed, and the balance distorted" - took me a few tries to keep the track list straight. And I can't stand Witch Hunt. It's boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Permanent Waves. Not my personal favorite, but I feel like it's their most perfectly crafted album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Permanent Waves. Both albums are great and are about even. What breaks the tie for me is Natural Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 10 2011, 09:38 AM) QUOTE (D3strukt @ Oct 9 2011, 11:54 PM) MP does NOT flow well. Vital Signs doesn't even FIT on MP. So it comes to a screeching halt with our hero being chased by the mob. Then it goes into some fancy lyrical shit that sounds like it's about computers. I love Vital Signs, I really do. But it's a signals song. Totally agree. When I was first getting into Rush years ago, I kept forgetting that Vital Signs wasn't on Signals - "signals get crossed, and the balance distorted" - took me a few tries to keep the track list straight. And I can't stand Witch Hunt. It's boring. I couldn't disagree more with these posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Money Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 MP only because it has vital signs on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losingit2k Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I went with Moving Pictures, Because that was the Album that defined RUSH! Even though Permanent Waves had TSOR and FW,as signature songs, MP defined it with Tom Sawyer, Limelight and of Course YYZ. Note: (There no instrumental on PeW) "2 Points for MP" Now taking the Epics into consideration, Permanent Waves wins out over The Camera Eye with two Epics Natural Science & Jacobs Ladder. "2 Points for PeW" Now that leaves the other songs IMO. Red Barchetta > Different Strings Entre Nous > Witch Hunt Vital Signs > ? (Well There nothing left) "1 point for MP" So there you have it Moving Pictures wins by One Point! I still would like to hear Different Strings Live as an acoustic piece after Alex's Solo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Oct 10 2011, 10:04 AM) Permanent Waves. Both albums are great and are about even. What breaks the tie for me is Natural Science bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 10 2011, 10:30 AM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 10 2011, 09:38 AM) QUOTE (D3strukt @ Oct 9 2011, 11:54 PM) MP does NOT flow well. Vital Signs doesn't even FIT on MP. So it comes to a screeching halt with our hero being chased by the mob. Then it goes into some fancy lyrical shit that sounds like it's about computers. I love Vital Signs, I really do. But it's a signals song. Totally agree. When I was first getting into Rush years ago, I kept forgetting that Vital Signs wasn't on Signals - "signals get crossed, and the balance distorted" - took me a few tries to keep the track list straight. And I can't stand Witch Hunt. It's boring. I couldn't disagree more with these posts. Vital Signs would fit on any Rush album. And MP flows just fine. That album is as close to a masterpiece as there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Can not answer...both are flawless in their own right. There are days when I reach for one over the other, but not because one is better than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Didn't even have to think about this one. I like Permanent Waves about eight hundred times more than Moving Pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWriter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (tangy @ Oct 10 2011, 11:19 AM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Oct 10 2011, 10:04 AM) Permanent Waves. Both albums are great and are about even. What breaks the tie for me is Natural Science bingo! Seconded. Third..ed? For me it comes down to the respective. TCE rocks, but it's the lyrical content of NatSci that just gets me everytime. I can get sick of listening to TCE on loop forever. I'll never get sick of NatSci. "Art as expression Not as market campaigns Will still capture our imaginations.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 QUOTE (micgtr71 @ Oct 10 2011, 06:24 PM) Can not answer...both are flawless in their own right. There are days when I reach for one over the other, but not because one is better than the other. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlightOnChrome Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have to vote PW. As a Rush fan I'm a non-conformist. The popular choice would be MP, therefore I am forced to vote for PW. Plus, it has TSOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Moving Pictures PeW is way overrated in my book - Natural Science and Jacob's Ladder are the main offenders here. NatSci is a bit overrated and not appealing to say "Oh, I'm just going to listen to Nat Sci!" and Jacob's Ladder is just plain boring at times. Of, course, Pew also has 2 of the top 3 songs between both albums combines - TSOR and Different Strings. (The #1 song is Red Barchetta) However, the overall flow is not as good and the songs are better alone than they are in the context of the album. Moving Pictures, on the other hand, flows very well and each song contributes to the whole much more evidently. So... MP it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushlady23 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Both are great albums, but I like Permanent Waves a little more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of the 7 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Moving Pictures...we really start to hear the synth influence that I love, and it's so evocative of the time it was written, yet doesn't sound dated. I'll admit a lot of how I feel is influenced by hearing the songs on this album growing up more frequently than those on Permanent Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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