third hand grace Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I was referring to Grace2Grace and his "anti-Ged" comment earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Is Neil Peart better than John Bonham? YES! Why, you ask? Because he is NEIL PEART. Neil is the greatest drummer in history...end of story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamneth Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE (floydfanatic111 @ Feb 14 2007, 12:40 AM)Neil didn't abuse himself with booze and drugs like Bonzo did. If you saw the films of the 1977 and 1979 Zeppelin tours, Bonzo was bloated on stage. Booze and alcohol was Bonzo's demise. Neil I think did dabble in drugs and so on but not an abuser like Bonzo was. dabble? hahaha. yeah. dabble. anyways, I agree for the most part. I think he more than dabbled, but didn't overuse it all the time. but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthem2112 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I dont think Neil would be drumming how he is today if it wernt for drummers like Bonham. Technically yes Neil is better but only because of the greats like Moon, Bonham, Baker and the legendary Buddy Rich. Is it all about playing or is it the influence drummers have on others that makes them great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdyyz Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Nothing against BONZO but Neil did beat him in Modern Drummers pole for best rock drummer- before Bonzo's death Could this be why he checked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticklah Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Neil's got the Skill, but bohnhams got the originality and ability to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticklah Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Feb 12 2007, 12:36 PM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 12 2007, 12:24 PM) QUOTE (PuppetKing2112 @ Feb 9 2007, 03:08 AM) Neil is more about the technical aspect, Bonzo is more about the feel and the groove, both are absolute tops in what they do. No point in comparing them. End of thread. Exactly. Neil wears better hats. Neil actually wears hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I don't hate Neil Peart's drumming but I find his drum solos to be always the same. He doesn't spice it up by doing anythign different when they preform live. John Bonham on the other hand, yes his style is very different from Rush but his solos were always different and he also composed one of the best drum solos ever in the recording of Moby Dick Live. But that's just IMHO. I tend to agree with you. I am always torn between the two. They are my top two of all time. Different styles but some of the same qualities as well. Bonham is heavier sounding but it fits the band's style. With Peart, his style and sound fits the band's overall sound. His creativity is one of a kind. It is sad that Bonham's death cut short his career so we will never know what he might have done later on in the band's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Both great drummers. I can watch Bonham solo. Neil;....yawn. Both don't measure up to my favorite drummer....Phil Collins. I know......shock. Phil is my drummer. or was. When he could play. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Led Zeppelin is my 2nd favorite band and I absolutely love Bonzo, but with Rush being my favorite band, Neil is my favorite drummer. You have to admit, John Bonham is a truly fantastic drummer as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppster Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 John Bonham was completely different animal. He could sound completely different and out of this world any night you heard him. There is nobody that is more physical with the drums than John Bonham. It's mind boggling how heavy he was. The fills he had were amazing also. There is nobody that comes close to him as far as talent goes. Neil is an experienced and techincal drummer. He's had basically 50 years of drumming under his belt now so he's probably got the technical part of drumming down. But Bonzo's style and physical talent are just impossible to compare to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Well I'm sure we can agree that Danny Carey is better than both of them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 All the greats are great because the play true to themselves. On any given day I can think someone is the absolute best at what they do, the next day I think it's someone else. I don't have a favorite drummer. I have my favorite drummers. Peart and Bonham are on the list. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Well I'm sure we can agree that Danny Carey is better than both of them! All three are def in my faves, and they're all on equal ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfwayToGone Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 It's apples and oranges really. Bonzo is hands down more heavy and has better feel when playing a beat. Neil has a far more developed solo, and has really taken that to another level, as great as Bonzo could solo. Bonzo comes from a more traditional jazz and blues background, and Neil from a classic rock background. Danny Carey is fine. Not better than either. There are better technical drummers out there like Jojo Mayer. That guy is not human. Here's a link (the whole thing is great, but just before 1:30 it starts getting way the hell crazy): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscanobarga Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Neil is more about the technical aspect, Bonzo is more about the feel and the groove, both are absolute tops in what they do. No point in comparing them. End of thread. This is the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Neil is more about the technical aspect, Bonzo is more about the feel and the groove, both are absolute tops in what they do. No point in comparing them. End of thread. This is the correct answer THANK YOU. It's been seven years now that this has been gnawing at my mind and now it's finally settled. I can relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachrymal Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Well I'm sure we can agree that Danny Carey is better than both of them! f**k yeah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachrymal Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Only tenuously related, but I really like this Zeppelin analysis: http://grantland.com/features/in-evening/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachrymal Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Only tenuously related, but I really like this Zeppelin analysis: http://grantland.com...res/in-evening/ "For almost two minutes, we get little more than a genius biker hitting the kettle drum while three superrich hippies prepare to be as awesome as they justifiably perceive themselves" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Sorry, any debate of "which drummer is better than which drummer" is a bogus argument, and is totally unfounded! Neil is an amazing drummer! Bonzo is an amazing drummer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Neil Peart is not a better drummer than Bonzo nor I can admit Bonzo is better than Neil Peart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 But neither of them can touch Buddy Rich or Gene Krupa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddlimelight Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I've heard this argument for years. I'm a drummer, and I'm VERY unbiased and for me it's simple, it's Neil Peart. Bonzo had power, feel, tremendous swing, had a quick foot on the bass pedal and he did come before NP so he had an influence on him and other drummers of the era. But NP gets more points. He was WAY more technical, more precise, WAYYY more creative, had more stamina, more discipline, gets points for longevity. NP's productive output of 40 years of albums and concert tours was way more than Bonzo's relatively short 12 years. I've seen concert footage of Bonzo in his later years and he looked lazy and tired and (fat). He was very young at 32 when he died. So he should still have been in his prime in his later years, but surely didn't play like it. I can play any Zep song,.....but can't play many Rush songs. NP played well into his 60s and still kicked ass everynight. Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Neil's got the Skill, but bohnhams got the originality and ability to changeJohn Bonham is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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