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Ok, so played the A/B disc I made, and affirm my beliefs that the Terry Brown mixes were a "lure" to get more people to buy into this project. (which is why I would have really wanted this, and was totally discouraged because of the price) But now I'm glad I didn't waste my money. I honestly expected MORE, but was disappointed! One of the biggest flaws was the end of Between the Wheels where he didn't even end the song properly! The last drum hit and the bass synths just fading was one of the most awesome endings to that song! Distant Early Warning missed a lot of the synth parts that were vital to the song. The rest of his mix seemed to just gloss over the integral keyboard parts. Neil's electronic drums were more subdued Geddy's vocals sounded way too echoey/reverby! Someone on another site said that it sounded like his vocals were recorded in a tile bathroom! God only knows what will happen with the rest of the catalog....

The interesting thing is that they claim nothing was recorded, nothing is in the "vaults" but things seem to pop up occasionally. Don't get me wrong EVERY band runs a tape in the background during sessions just in case someone says "what'd you just play" and whomever played doesn't remember, so they roll it back. Standard operating procedures for all sessions! (My recording III professor was Billy Joels engineer during the BIG years, and he said that a 1/4" tape was constantly running, and later on a DAT was running (easier) during ALL sessions...JUST IN CASE" He even played a few for us...one was Billy saying "F*** it I'M DONE, Someone order a f***ing pizza!") EVERY band runs board tapes at concerts to check their work. ESL was purportedly recorded over a few nights on two separate tours. SOMETHING ELSE EXISTS!!! I honestly think there's a rough mix of Sir Gawain and the Green Night out there! There HAS to be a board tape from the Caress of Steel tour at SOME venue.

Ok, so I was bored, and wanted to do an A-B of the original and the Terry Brown remix, I found that both albums fit on one cdr, so I burned both releases with the original mix then the Terry Brown mix. Each after each other. Not that I'll sit there with a note pad and take notes, I want to see what I like and dislike between both in a closer setting. I mean, even listening to some of the original album shows me that Terry's mix didn't work. (Not that it didn't work, but why I didn't like it)

I guess what bothers me is that they recorded several nights and they claim nothing exists! Same with ATWAS, but they at least put a few things out

Ok second listen under calmer conditions, with morning coffee, on the Bose speakers, and giving it a more critical chance. Drum sound is HORRID! He misses the parts that make the song, (both acoustic and electronic) and the acoustic drums overall sound like they were recorded in a garage! The keyboard sound is pushed too far back in the mix, even the parts that mattered for the gist of the song! Vocals are too airy and echoed! Guitar is pushed too forward in the mix when it shouldn't be. Bass doesn't have the "presence" that it needs in ALL of the songs! (or the depth) I think I'm going to A-B it with my original CD and see what else bugs me (Not to mention the ride outs of a few of the tunes) That said, so happy that the entire live show is released! Never loved the video of it, but the audio is a treat!! SO glad that it's an unedited show! The whole prelude to Distant Early Warning, the banter from Count Floyd, the banter from the band. This will get several plays!!!

I'm still bummed that there wasn't a live Signals release! (especially since no sound board recordings have surfaced from that tour)(unless someone has one??)

Ditto here... only gave it a quick spin in the car, and it didn't really grab me as much as expected. It sounded a tad flat to me with nothing that sets it apart from the original that makes me LOVE it. It almost sounds like a first pass mix that the band took home on cassettes to play for their wives. I'll have to give it a more critical listen Monday morning when I'm having my coffee. I watched some of the additions from the video on YouTube, and no changes to the video quality (ok 1984) but thankfully the whole show now exists on cd! I'm glad I didn't put my marriage in jeopardy by purchasing this (it's out there) but I still hope they release a disc only version so I can add an official one to the collection.

PASS! Not paying $300.00! I think they need a release without the fancy stuff!

Ticket prices in general are out of hand anymore. Not to mention parking and everything else involved. As much as I would be curious to see one of these shows, I think I'll pass... besides the ticket prices, travel, etc. I just can't see spending that much. I'll wait for the YouTube and other recordings to surface.

I get his rationale about that, but back when ATWAS and ESL were the only things available, and a lot of us didn't get to see them early on, boots were the only choice! Even though the quality was "eh" when I first heard Cygnus X-1 and Hemispheres live and together, I couldn't stop listening to it.

I was totally peeved that SIG40 didn't have any live set attached to it, especially since there aren't any sound board recordings that exist. Granted, a few good recordings.... I know I've said this before, but more recording engineers worth their salt run a tape during recording sessions in the background in case someone goes "wait, what was that"? And they had something to listen to. My recording professor was Billy Joel's engineer, and he used to bring DAT's of some of those tapes with the best parts he compiled. pretty cool stuff! But anyway, you can't tell me that no one ran a tape like that during sessions, or during soundchecks? You also can't tell me that there aren't tapes made for the band's enjoyment from most live shows, not to mention rough mixes that they took home to think about. The R50 box was a tad disappointing.....

Ok, so I listened, and it's a lot of different things in one place. It will live on my shelf with my other Rush stuff.... Again, I really wish they would have left off "album" material. Included more test versions. And included more obscure live tracks. All that said... anyone have any indication of the next anniversary release? Still bummed that the Signals release didn't have anything live...

I got this because of the first official release of some of the earlier stuff, and having it on something other than a CD-r worked. I just got the CD version, I don't need vinyl, talk about a horrible over rated medium for music! (don't get me started) I guess what bugs me about this is that they really didn't pull anything from the inner reaches of their archives (even though they say they don't have any) But knowing that they recorded several shows on most tours bothers me that they didn't pull things that were already released! What has surfaced on the "anniversary" releases proves that they HAVE stuff! What band DOESN'T record shows just for their own enjoyment! Knowing recording studio protocol, they HAVE to have 1/4" tapes that were running in the background during sessions (and later DAT tape) They also have to have rough mixes of songs that they took home and listened to for thoughts on the final mix, or ideas that they could add. You can't tell me that a recording of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight doesn't exist!!!! I took a recording class years back with Billy Joel's engineer, and he said that anyone in the studio worth their salt would have something running in the background in case someone said "Hey what was that you played" and they could play it back! This release reminds me of the first box sets that surfaced years back that had maybe 25% of stuff that was sitting in a vault, and remixes, or edits that didn't make it to the album. Cash grab, but stuff for the collectors. I'm still bummed that nothing has surfaced from the Caress of Steel tour... come on THEY HAD TO HAVE RECORDED SOMETHING! Just for their own pleasure! I'm still totally bummed that nothing from the Signals tour surfaced, nothing from Grace Under Pressure has been offered, and the rest. Still hoping and praying for more, but not holding my breath.

Saw on Amazon (it popped up for some reason) the 2025 calendar is going to be Power Windows 40th anniversary related, and I thought that nothing came out about GuP's 40th?? Still disappointed with the Signals anniversary release not having anything official live... I still think they need a 50th of Rush, FBN, and CoS with some good live stuff.....

I was in the same boat as well. The first few albums were great, they had a great live show, and Carter's playing was phenomenal! When the bass player passed away, and then the violinist got weird, they fell out of my rotation. I still pull some of the older stuff and some bootlegs out occasionally, but not into them anymore.