Texas King Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 After a few hip hop acts now we've got 2pac inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Also Madonna is there for several years now. Probably in following years some other non-rock artists will get in there. I just can't get it.Your opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's a legitimate genre of rock and roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The Hall of Fame's a joke. so it really doesn't matter. but for the sake of argument if it did....Hip-hop for sure belongs. Mick 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's a legitimate genre of rock and roll. So are many other genres in which the RRHoF denies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's a legitimate genre of rock and roll. So are many other genres in which the RRHoF denies.My statement doesn't concern what the RRHoF denies. Prog rock is starting to be acknowledged. That's good, but where are Judas Priest and Iron Maiden? Is that your point? If so, we are in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Tupac belongs there more than Joan Baez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Tupac belongs there more than Joan Baez.I think you can make that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscanobarga Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 A "hall of fame" for an art form is just stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.......... Halls of Fame are for sports, where accomplishments are both measurable AND meaningful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I've always thought and still do, a Rock and Roll hall of fame should have a set definition for what musical genre (not attitude, not style, not of that other stuff) defines Rock and Roll. If they want to put Tupac in, it should be called the Popular Music Hall Of Fame...or why not just the Musicians' Hall Of Fame? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) I've always thought and still do, a Rock and Roll hall of fame should have a set definition for what musical genre (not attitude, not style, not of that other stuff) defines Rock and Roll. If they want to put Tupac in, it should be called the Popular Music Hall Of Fame...or why not just the Musicians' Hall Of Fame? A Musicians HOF would then have to include jazz, classical, etc. It's called the Rock and Roll HOF, but it's for blues, folk, pop, rock (and all its sub-genres), R&B, soul, rap/hip hop, country, funk -- really, they're all kinda related anyway, so calling it the Rock and Roll HOF is not that big a deal. The issue a lot of people have is that it's not the "official" HOF for rock music, it's a privately-owned institution run by a guy -- Jann Wenner -- who has his own agenda and preferences. It's his HOF, even though it's billed as the official HOF for rock music. And he doesn't like prog and certain British metal acts, so that's why it took so long to get Rush and Deep Purple in there, and why Judas Preist and Iron Maiden are still on the outside, while acts like Guns N' Roses and Blondie are in. Edited December 23, 2016 by 1-0-0-1-0-0-1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) The name is misleading. It's a music hall of fame no doubt. The name rock n roll hall of fame just sounds better and is easy to market more than calling it the popular music hall of fame or something like that. Rap does belong in it since the hall has come to acknowledge accomplishments in all forms of music. I do think that rap/hip hop has become a popular enough genre that their own hall of fame could be created. But until then, we'll have to accept that those artists will go into the rock hall. Edited December 23, 2016 by J2112YYZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I've always thought and still do, a Rock and Roll hall of fame should have a set definition for what musical genre (not attitude, not style, not of that other stuff) defines Rock and Roll. If they want to put Tupac in, it should be called the Popular Music Hall Of Fame...or why not just the Musicians' Hall Of Fame? A Musicians HOF would then have to include jazz, classical, etc. It's called the Rock and Roll HOF, but it's for blues, folk, pop, rock (and all its sub-genres), R&B, soul, rap/hip hop, country, funk -- really, they're all kinda related anyway, so calling it the Rock and Roll HOF is not that big a deal. The issue a lot of people have is that it's not the "official" HOF for rock music, it's a privately-owned institution run by a guy -- Jann Wenner -- who has his own agenda and preferences. It's his HOF, even though it's billed as the official HOF for rock music. And he doesn't like prog and certain British metal acts, so that's why it took so long to get Rush and Deep Purple in there, and why Judas Preist and Iron Maiden are still on the outside, while acts like Guns N' Roses and Blondie are in. This. It's the biggest issue at hand. Tupac is more culturally relevant than Motörhead or Maiden. That's more important to the hall Yahoo!'s than actual musical output or influence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I've always thought and still do, a Rock and Roll hall of fame should have a set definition for what musical genre (not attitude, not style, not of that other stuff) defines Rock and Roll. If they want to put Tupac in, it should be called the Popular Music Hall Of Fame...or why not just the Musicians' Hall Of Fame? A Musicians HOF would then have to include jazz, classical, etc. It's called the Rock and Roll HOF, but it's for blues, folk, pop, rock (and all its sub-genres), R&B, soul, rap/hip hop, country, funk -- really, they're all kinda related anyway, so calling it the Rock and Roll HOF is not that big a deal. The issue a lot of people have is that it's not the "official" HOF for rock music, it's a privately-owned institution run by a guy -- Jann Wenner -- who has his own agenda and preferences. It's his HOF, even though it's billed as the official HOF for rock music. And he doesn't like prog and certain British metal acts, so that's why it took so long to get Rush and Deep Purple in there, and why Judas Preist and Iron Maiden are still on the outside, while acts like Guns N' Roses and Blondie are in. That is really unfair. He should not put bands and artist he hates aside. He should put bands in that deserve it, not bands that have not done much at all to get nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I've always thought and still do, a Rock and Roll hall of fame should have a set definition for what musical genre (not attitude, not style, not of that other stuff) defines Rock and Roll. If they want to put Tupac in, it should be called the Popular Music Hall Of Fame...or why not just the Musicians' Hall Of Fame? A Musicians HOF would then have to include jazz, classical, etc. It's called the Rock and Roll HOF, but it's for blues, folk, pop, rock (and all its sub-genres), R&B, soul, rap/hip hop, country, funk -- really, they're all kinda related anyway, so calling it the Rock and Roll HOF is not that big a deal. The issue a lot of people have is that it's not the "official" HOF for rock music, it's a privately-owned institution run by a guy -- Jann Wenner -- who has his own agenda and preferences. It's his HOF, even though it's billed as the official HOF for rock music. And he doesn't like prog and certain British metal acts, so that's why it took so long to get Rush and Deep Purple in there, and why Judas Preist and Iron Maiden are still on the outside, while acts like Guns N' Roses and Blondie are in. That is really unfair. He should not put bands and artist he hates aside. He should put bands in that deserve it, not bands that have not done much at all to get nominated. It's his hall, he can do what he wants with it. Which is why a lot of people have an issue with him calling it "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'd forgotten it's a one man show, lol. there would be your proof it's a crock of shit. Mick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueschica Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) All I know is that when Mr. blues and I went to the actual Hall, it was raining. The glass pyramid ceiling was leaking in like 20 places and there were all these wastebaskets underneath, in what is supposed to be the great main hall, to catch the drips. Jann Wenner doesn't do things the best way, IMO. Edited December 23, 2016 by blueschica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) Holler if you hear me! Tupac was great with the digital underground and his first two solo discs killed it. Then he started suck when he hooked up with death row. He belongs but must say that all the rap groups inducted only made a few records worth a shit. Even public enemy only had 3 great records Edited December 23, 2016 by tangy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 As much as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden should be in there, also King Crimson easily should be as creators of prog rock! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 As much as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden should be in there, also King Crimson easily should be as creators of prog rock!And Roxy Music. There are a lot of English bands that deserve induction. I personally think the Monkees should be inducted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 As much as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden should be in there, also King Crimson easily should be as creators of prog rock!And Roxy Music. There are a lot of English bands that deserve induction. I personally think the Monkees should be inducted. I'm surprised The Monkees aren't in it. They had a huge impact on popular music. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I personally think the Monkees should be inducted.They aren't in the RRHOF yet? I was under the impression that they were already in. Shows how much I know about who's in and who isn't! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If you want to feel old and depressedNext Year they could put in:Wu Tang ClanDave Matthews BandCounting CrowsSheryl CrowSnoop Dogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Stone Temple Pilots are eligible next year! I wanna see them get in! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If you want to feel old and depressedNext Year they could put in:Wu Tang ClanDave Matthews BandCounting CrowsSheryl CrowSnoop Dogg I don't feel old ( for my age ) and definitely not depressed. Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaa :D-13: :D-13: :D-13: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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