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#321 HemispheresserehpsimeH

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:01 AM

View PostTexas King, on 07 February 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

View PostTony R, on 07 April 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

I'd say Rush are over-rated by their fans. They are, to us, a great band but we look down on people who dislike them and dismiss their views as "ignorance".


I have to agree. Some big Rush fans (I don't claim they are the majority) who think Rush is the best band in the universe and untouchable by any other band OVERRATE Rush!  :)
For me Rush don't have to be THE BEST BAND OF ALL TIME to love them. They don't have to be even one of the best bands of all time to love them.
But again, that's opinion. Rush is my favourite band. I would say they're one of the best bands out there. Someone will end up saying they aren't and then suggest another band, which I would, most likely, disagree with. I just hate the terms. There are no set measurements here. People just like what they like. No one can come up to the biggest Rush fan ever and make a legitimate argument that they're overrated. Just like I couldn't go up to a big Beatles fan and be like, "Yo, they're overrated." They'd just laugh in my face because it's all based on opinion. I just don't like how the terms are thrown out there like there is some council that decides on these things based on predetermined factors. There are no arguments to be made. Sure, The Beatles sold an assload of albums and have a massive following. But someone who doesn't think they're all that automatically deems them overrated BECAUSE of that fact? It's just the dumbest argument ever. At least if someone hates the music then they can just say that, and you can understand where they're coming from. But this? This is just a back and forth of nothing.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:17 AM

On Tony's point, I'm sure people do dismiss other views about their favourite bands. That doesn't mean that they overrate them. Sometimes, people are just asses. That's pretty much it.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:52 AM

View PostPermanent-Rush, on 07 February 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

The Cure aren't overrated at all.

Now bands like The Beatles n AC/DC are, but it doesn't mean I think there bad.

I think The Cure are. I say that as a fan.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:33 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

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View PostTick, on 06 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

And overrated = Def Lepard

No it doesn't.  On Through the Night and High N Dry are fantastic.  Pyromania is flawless.  Hysteria and Adrenalize are both great albums.  After that, you can argue their work took a step down.  And at least in the 80s, they were an excellent live band.

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They are overrated, don't argue with me.

Poison is as well and don't say differently.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:34 PM

View PostTick, on 07 February 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 06 February 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostTick, on 06 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

And overrated = Def Lepard

No it doesn't.  On Through the Night and High N Dry are fantastic.  Pyromania is flawless.  Hysteria and Adrenalize are both great albums.  After that, you can argue their work took a step down.  And at least in the 80s, they were an excellent live band.

Foolin' is songwriting genius.
They are overrated, don't argue with me.

Poison is as well and don't say differently.

If you don't want to start an argument, you may as well not post anything someone might disagree with.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:36 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

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View PostTexas King, on 06 February 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

This topic is fun. And it represents this famous quote: "Opinions are like assholes..."

Overrated bands and music artists IMO:
U2
KISS (overhyped is a much better term than overrated)
Motley Crue (see KISS)
Nirvana (their music output always struck me as average or decent)
Pantera
Prince
Michael Jackson
Ramones
AC/DC (good, but not one of the greatest rock bands as many people think)
Radiohead (overrated by critics and RYM users)
Slayer
The Cure
Kanye West
Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac with her
Velvet Underground (overrated by critics, hipsters and RYM users)

C'mon TK, after their first three albums, KISS as a band was dead broke, having toured non stop for three years and not seeing one check from any of the albums .. Upstart Casablanca Records was about to fold and manager Bill Aucoin was in the process of suing Neil Bogart and Casablanca ..

A groundswell of fans at the grassroots level and the dedication the band and its 4 roadies put in is what gave them fame .. Not to mention a catalog of great rock and roll songs that tapped into something no other band had to that point ..

Geddy himself has said that there has been no band that has worked harder than KISS ..

Naturally, when a band blazes a trail as KISS did in so many ways, the spotlight will follow .. I would not confuse "success" with "hype" ....

"Hype" is what a new movie receives upon its release ... Hype will carry nothing for 45 years

Hype will not place my dad's beat up, acid-washed, but still perfectly playable copy of Kiss Alive hiding on a shelf in our basement for me to find some 30-40 years later as one of the half a dozen records my parents didn't decide to sell, and the only one not kept because it was unopened and might have been worth some money. Hype won't explain why he kept that or why he passed it down to me when I started getting into records and music. Hype won't explain his happiness last Christmas when he opened up a Gene Simmons waffle maker from me. No, hype is not what makes Kiss so special.

I made the waffles hotter than hell, I can tell you that !!

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 04:15 AM

Queens of the Stone Age.
Foo fighters.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:36 AM

View PostGeddyLeeRoth, on 06 February 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Nirvana
Tool
Dave Matthews Band
Foo Fighters

All good bands, but certain fans and critics act like they are or were the 'be all' of music. Far from it.
I also forgot to mention Michael Jackson. He had one stellar album, set his hair on fire, self-cock-blocked Brooke Shields and then molested a bunch of kids. And people still won't shut up about him. Jeesh.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:38 AM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostLucas, on 06 February 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 06 February 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

This topic is fun. And it represents this famous quote: "Opinions are like assholes..."

Overrated bands and music artists IMO:
U2
KISS (overhyped is a much better term than overrated)
Motley Crue (see KISS)
Nirvana (their music output always struck me as average or decent)
Pantera
Prince
Michael Jackson
Ramones
AC/DC (good, but not one of the greatest rock bands as many people think)
Radiohead (overrated by critics and RYM users)
Slayer
The Cure
Kanye West
Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac with her
Velvet Underground (overrated by critics, hipsters and RYM users)

C'mon TK, after their first three albums, KISS as a band was dead broke, having toured non stop for three years and not seeing one check from any of the albums .. Upstart Casablanca Records was about to fold and manager Bill Aucoin was in the process of suing Neil Bogart and Casablanca ..

A groundswell of fans at the grassroots level and the dedication the band and its 4 roadies put in is what gave them fame .. Not to mention a catalog of great rock and roll songs that tapped into something no other band had to that point ..

Geddy himself has said that there has been no band that has worked harder than KISS ..

Naturally, when a band blazes a trail as KISS did in so many ways, the spotlight will follow .. I would not confuse "success" with "hype" ....

"Hype" is what a new movie receives upon its release ... Hype will carry nothing for 45 years

Hype will not place my dad's beat up, acid-washed, but still perfectly playable copy of Kiss Alive hiding on a shelf in our basement for me to find some 30-40 years later as one of the half a dozen records my parents didn't decide to sell, and the only one not kept because it was unopened and might have been worth some money. Hype won't explain why he kept that or why he passed it down to me when I started getting into records and music. Hype won't explain his happiness last Christmas when he opened up a Gene Simmons waffle maker from me. No, hype is not what makes Kiss so special.

All I can say is this:

Spoiler


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 10:32 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 08 February 2018 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostLucas, on 06 February 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 06 February 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

This topic is fun. And it represents this famous quote: "Opinions are like assholes..."

Overrated bands and music artists IMO:
U2
KISS (overhyped is a much better term than overrated)
Motley Crue (see KISS)
Nirvana (their music output always struck me as average or decent)
Pantera
Prince
Michael Jackson
Ramones
AC/DC (good, but not one of the greatest rock bands as many people think)
Radiohead (overrated by critics and RYM users)
Slayer
The Cure
Kanye West
Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac with her
Velvet Underground (overrated by critics, hipsters and RYM users)

C'mon TK, after their first three albums, KISS as a band was dead broke, having toured non stop for three years and not seeing one check from any of the albums .. Upstart Casablanca Records was about to fold and manager Bill Aucoin was in the process of suing Neil Bogart and Casablanca ..

A groundswell of fans at the grassroots level and the dedication the band and its 4 roadies put in is what gave them fame .. Not to mention a catalog of great rock and roll songs that tapped into something no other band had to that point ..

Geddy himself has said that there has been no band that has worked harder than KISS ..

Naturally, when a band blazes a trail as KISS did in so many ways, the spotlight will follow .. I would not confuse "success" with "hype" ....

"Hype" is what a new movie receives upon its release ... Hype will carry nothing for 45 years

Hype will not place my dad's beat up, acid-washed, but still perfectly playable copy of Kiss Alive hiding on a shelf in our basement for me to find some 30-40 years later as one of the half a dozen records my parents didn't decide to sell, and the only one not kept because it was unopened and might have been worth some money. Hype won't explain why he kept that or why he passed it down to me when I started getting into records and music. Hype won't explain his happiness last Christmas when he opened up a Gene Simmons waffle maker from me. No, hype is not what makes Kiss so special.

All I can say is this:

Spoiler

I just went through a binge a couple of weeks ago.  The Creatures of the Night - Revenge run of albums might actually be their best stuff musically.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:23 AM

U2. They do everything they can to stay relevant. Their recent performance on the Grammy’s sucked.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:28 PM

View PostMr. JD, on 08 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

U2. They do everything they can to stay relevant. Their recent performance on the Grammy’s sucked.

yea....i've tried and tried.  i don't get it.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:06 PM

View PostTick, on 07 February 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

Poison is as well and don't say differently.

Um dude, fr saying that, it's ur opinion I respect that but don't make everyone have ur same opinion.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:08 PM

Madonna

Don't like her music or her as a person, she's so full of herself now days n her music's not even that great imo.

Edited by Permanent-Rush, 08 February 2018 - 01:08 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:12 PM

Also Micheal Jackson, Janet Jackson, n Whitney Houston.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 01:14 PM

View PostGeddyLeeRoth, on 08 February 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

View PostGeddyLeeRoth, on 06 February 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Nirvana
Tool
Dave Matthews Band
Foo Fighters

All good bands, but certain fans and critics act like they are or were the 'be all' of music. Far from it.
I also forgot to mention Michael Jackson. He had one stellar album, set his hair on fire, self-cock-blocked Brooke Shields and then molested a bunch of kids. And people still won't shut up about him. Jeesh.

Thinking about this a little, it's not as off base as one might think.  His Jackson 5 career was decent, and Off the Wall and Bad are both really good albums.  Thriller is, of course, flawless.  But after 1987 or so, his output was really spotty.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

View PostJohn V, on 31 March 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 27 February 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

The grateful dead

Yep.  Still have no idea why 300,000 people showed up to see them.  Or was it Owsley acid they went to the concert for?

View Postmetaldad, on 27 February 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:

Guns and Roses
Nirvana
Bruce Springsteen
Bob Dylan
The Doors

Yea. Its amazing how Howard Stern loves Bruce, but made fun of Rush getting into the hall?  My satellite subscription is up in April. F**k Howard.

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Too lazy to go through the whole thread to see if they've been mentioned, but fukking Journey. The true definition of the term "butt rock".

I like Journey then and now!

Yup. Great musicians who wrote , for the most part, boring music.
Yes!!

Yes, is the band that got me to notice.  Rush and Yes have some things in common. Style and a special sound that no one else has.  To even mention Yes in the context is "Heresy".
You didn't get that I was saying "yes" to the guy's comment about the musicians in Journey being good but the songs being boring did you? My comment had nothing to do with the band Yes. While not a gigantic fan I totally recognize how good they WERE and said for a number of years they were HOF worthy.

Reading comprehension 101 dude. Might wanna check out a class.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 04:35 PM

View PostTick, on 07 February 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 06 February 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 06 February 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostTick, on 06 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

And overrated = Def Lepard

No it doesn't.  On Through the Night and High N Dry are fantastic.  Pyromania is flawless.  Hysteria and Adrenalize are both great albums.  After that, you can argue their work took a step down.  And at least in the 80s, they were an excellent live band.

Foolin' is songwriting genius.
They are overrated, don't argue with me.

Poison is as well and don't say differently.

Wouldn't there have to be one person who doesn't say "Poison aren't very good," in order for them to be "overrated?"  Is there such a person?  I've never come across one.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 09:47 AM

View Postdriventotheedge, on 08 February 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

View PostJohn V, on 31 March 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 27 February 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

The grateful dead

Yep.  Still have no idea why 300,000 people showed up to see them.  Or was it Owsley acid they went to the concert for?

View Postmetaldad, on 27 February 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:

Guns and Roses
Nirvana
Bruce Springsteen
Bob Dylan
The Doors

Yea. Its amazing how Howard Stern loves Bruce, but made fun of Rush getting into the hall?  My satellite subscription is up in April. F**k Howard.

View Postdriventotheedge, on 28 March 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

View PostXanadoood, on 27 March 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

View Postdriventotheedge, on 27 March 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Too lazy to go through the whole thread to see if they've been mentioned, but fukking Journey. The true definition of the term "butt rock".

I like Journey then and now!

Yup. Great musicians who wrote , for the most part, boring music.
Yes!!

Yes, is the band that got me to notice.  Rush and Yes have some things in common. Style and a special sound that no one else has.  To even mention Yes in the context is "Heresy".
You didn't get that I was saying "yes" to the guy's comment about the musicians in Journey being good but the songs being boring did you? My comment had nothing to do with the band Yes. While not a gigantic fan I totally recognize how good they WERE and said for a number of years they were HOF worthy.

Reading comprehension 101 dude. Might wanna check out a class.

nm

Edited by toymaker, 09 February 2018 - 09:51 AM.





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