Disk98 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I listened to VT last night to be open........there is not 1 single track i enjoy. 1 of only 2 Rush albums i can say that for. God. I want to like it.......but it's not to be and....i'm fine with it. Mick Why do we feel compelled to like everything Rush has done? They're only human. They don't have 19 winning and stunning albums. Talented men they are, but even talent has limits. If you don't like an album, you don't like it. Why force it? And why let others who do like it intimidate any one of us, or try to shame any one of us, into liking it? Ahem…weren't you the one who suggested locking me up in a padded room with Hemispheres on replay until I'd admit it wasn't a piece of garbage (which it is)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Not a fan of either album, but I guess CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus_2112 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I chose Clockwork Angels. Every song on Clockwork Angels is good. They aren't all "the best," but they are still are very good songs, and the story is great. Vapor Trails has some absolutely phenomenal songs on it, some my personal favorites (OLV, How It Is, Vapor Trail), but it also has some pretty weak songs, which dilutes it. Snakes and Arrows also has some great songs on it, but "Good News First" and "Bravest Face" kinda kill it. The songs on that album decrease in quality as the track list goes on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplelevy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Clockwork is a masterpiece. The tour with the orchestra was amazing. Snakes is second, Trails third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Pity there's no "none of the above" option...it's like choosing between bladder cancer, leprosy and rectal incontinence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Clockwork Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepphead Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Clockwork Angels ..... a fine final effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) I'm not a big fan of Clockwork Angel, but it is better than the other two albums by a good margin. Edited July 25, 2020 by Texas King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Out of these three? Snakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Vapor Trails is the better overall collection of songs. Snakes sounds the best. Clockwork has the highest highs. I voted VT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Vapor Trails is the better overall collection of songs. Snakes sounds the best. Clockwork has the highest highs. I voted VT. highest as in best or as in... :smoke: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Vapor Trails is the better overall collection of songs. Snakes sounds the best. Clockwork has the highest highs. I voted VT. highest as in best or as in... :smoke: I pretty much agree with all of goose’s points. CA has the highest moments...but has some tunes that annoy me. Snakes might sound good but that doesn’t help me much when I dislike 75% of the songs. VT has a few good songs, a few ok ones, and a few that are forgettable...but none that I find annoying. I still voted CA but mainly due to the highs of Anarchist, Headlong, and the title track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour. Edited July 26, 2020 by laughedatbytime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right?Subject matter as well, I am guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right?Subject matter as well, I am guessing.What if you went on YouTube, went to the very slow songs, and sped the songs up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right?Subject matter as well, I am guessing.What if you went on YouTube, went to the very slow songs, and sped the songs up?I just tried it, it's actually fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right?Subject matter as well, I am guessing.It's less the subject matter than the preachiness. We get it, Neil, you're an atheist, and you think religion is a malignant force. You already said so, in far better ways, set to virtually infinitely better music. But the main problem is the tempo of the music. I think I run faster in my dreams trying to get away from the bear than this sludgefest moves. Edited July 26, 2020 by laughedatbytime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 CA is a wonderful closer to a career. VT has some transcendent moments and is on balance their second best offering since 1984. The only purpose Snakes ever served is to keep those with severe diarrhea from missing anything worth hearing if they were stricken with a bout toward the end of the intermission on the S&A tour.I think your main problem with Snakes & Arrows is the speed... right?Subject matter as well, I am guessing.It's less the subject matter than the preachiness. We get it, Neil, you're an atheist, and you think religion is a malignant force. You already said so, in far better ways, set to virtually infinitely better music. But the main problem is the tempo of the music. I think I run faster in my dreams trying to get away from the bear than this sludgefest moves.Understandable. You should at least try one song from S&A on YouTube and speed it up to 1.25, it's actually fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Laughedatbytime nailed why I don't like Snakes aside from Far Cry and maybe Malignant NarcIts not just the uncreative mid tempo songs that are missing Rush's signature goofy time signatures and "I wasn't expecting THAT..." twists and turns their classic material have. It was that combined with yet another album of Neil's lyrics which came across as bitter anti-religious 'The world is scary and people are mean' rants. Of which we already got with Vapor Trails previously. Only this time set to boring folk meets mid tempo rock music. At least VT had energy and passion. Lots of it. Snakes is the worst thing you can accuse a rock album of which is being boring and instantly forgettable.I hate Speed Of Love but I remember how it goes. Songs like Bravest Face /Faithless/Good News First I still can't really recall how they go even 13 years on because they're all so bland and uninteresting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Despite the utterly disappointing One Little Victory, the rest of the album is gold, especially with the remix. Even with all the ridiculous edits, you can tell the band is so energized. Enthusiasm permeates the record. And some really cutting lyrics. Vapor Trail is so beautiful. Aside from 3 really great tracks, S/A is a dreary slog. CA has absolutely stunning moments but it is hampered by a shit mix and bad editing. Some songs could’ve been tightened up. Lifeson is so brilliant here. But VT’s songs are much stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Despite the utterly disappointing One Little Victory, the rest of the album is gold, especially with the remix.How is One Little Victory disappointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Despite the utterly disappointing One Little Victory, the rest of the album is gold, especially with the remix.How is One Little Victory disappointing? I can’t stand it. The lyrics are so awkward - and I don’t like arrangement either. Vocals seem to be cut and paste into the song. I really dig the rest of the album though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Despite the utterly disappointing One Little Victory, the rest of the album is gold, especially with the remix. Even with all the ridiculous edits, you can tell the band is so energized. Enthusiasm permeates the record. And some really cutting lyrics. Vapor Trail is so beautiful. Aside from 3 really great tracks, S/A is a dreary slog. CA has absolutely stunning moments but it is hampered by a shit mix and bad editing. Some songs could’ve been tightened up. Lifeson is so brilliant here. But VT’s songs are much stronger.:goodone: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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