brunosamppa Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Friends, i'am very unsatisfied with the Clockwork Angels Tour Blu-ray. You know, the cheap cameras, the terrible audio mastering and direction...What your preference for the the forthcoming Blu-ray? Mine is: Director: Pierre Lamoureux, Daniel E. Catullo or David Mallet.Audio Mix: Richard Chicky, David Botrill or Steve MacMillanAudio Mastering: Andy Vandette, Jon Astley, Tony Cousins or Simon Heyworth. The previous was: CLOCKWORK ANGELS TOUR Director: Dale Heslip Producer: Allan Weinrib Mixed By: Mike FraserAudio Consultant: Brad Madix Mastering: Adam AyanRecording Engineers - Richard Chycki, Joel Singer Time Machine 2011: Live in Cleveland Directed by: SCOT MCFADYEN & SAM DUNN Producers: ALLAN WEINRIB, DAVE PATTENDEN Audio Mastering: ANDY VANDETTERecording Engineers: RICHARD CHYCKI, JOEL SINGER MIXED BY: RICHARD CHYCKI SNAKES & ARROWS LIVE Directed by: PIERRE & FRANCOIS LAMOUREUXProducer: ALLAN WEINRIB Co-Producers PIERRE & FRANCOIS LAMOUREUXMusic Mixed by: RICHARD CHYCKI & ALEX LlFESONMusic Recorded by: FRANCOIS LAMOUREUX Audio Mastering: ANDY VanDETTE R30: 30th Anniversary World Tour Directed by: Pierre LamoureuxProduced by: Pierre Lamoureux & Allan Weinrib Co-Produced: by Franyois Lamoureux / FogolabsAudio Mix by: Richard Chycki and Alex Lifeson Assisted by Adrian LifesonMastered by Stephen Marcussen for DVD/CDMastered by Andy Vandette for Blu-ray REPLAY X3 Box Mixed by Mike Fraser & Alex LifesonMastering: ? Test for Echo Tour (R40 Box) Director: Don AllanMixed by David BottrillMastered by: ? RUSH IN RIO Directed By Daniel E. Catullo III Producers: Lawrence Jordan, Daniel E. Catullo III, Lionel Pasamonte Audio Producer: James "Jimbo" Barton Assisted by Patrick Thrasher Audio Supervisor: Alex LifesonMastering: Adam Ayan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3strukt Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I think somewhere between R30 and S&A production is spot on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Omega Concern Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Producer on several of those is Geddy's brother, Allan Weinrib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnify Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'd prefer it to be edited by someone that doesn't have ADHD I'm with you on audio - partial to mix by David Bottrill and mastered by Andy VanDette 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavesandWindows Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I'd take Daniel Catullo with Botrill, Vandette , and Allan Weinrib please. Edited May 28, 2015 by WavesandWindows 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabesCavesOfIce Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Most of their concert films, back to p/g and ASOH, shots change every three seconds. seriously? Is my attention span that short? At least on the later films (TM & CA) they will stay with the same star at least once when the shot changes. Switching from player to player every three seconds, can't think of a quicker way to get dizzy. File under producer trying too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3strukt Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I think TMT had decent shooting. I mean, while CAT didn't sound great, it looked great. It sounded worse than TMT which sounded worse than S&A. Seems like Neils drums just get buried more and more in the mix with each release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Mover Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I've always wished they would offer as an option on the DVDs the ability to watch a fixed, static, centered view of the show. It's cool to get the close ups but you miss the overall effect a lot of the time. I actually thought the CA film did a better job of capturing the lighting effects than the TM film. The TM film didn't come close to presenting how cool the "spider" lighting rig really was. I assume they have a fixed camera center view of the entire stage every time they film and given the capacity of Blu Ray I would think offering that view as an option would be easily doable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianice Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Producer on several of those is Geddy's brother, Allan Weinrib. All in the Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I just don't want whoever worked on CA tour. that was awful. all around. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Get the guys who recorded Toto's last DVD. Say what you like about the band, but the quality of that DVD was flawless! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Didn't Alex do the sound on CA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I think S&A's is the best DVD they've had so far. In every way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I've always wished they would offer as an option on the DVDs the ability to watch a fixed, static, centered view of the show. It's cool to get the close ups but you miss the overall effect a lot of the time. I actually thought the CA film did a better job of capturing the lighting effects than the TM film. The TM film didn't come close to presenting how cool the "spider" lighting rig really was. I assume they have a fixed camera center view of the entire stage every time they film and given the capacity of Blu Ray I would think offering that view as an option would be easily doable. This!!! I would think a band like Rush, who put a lot of thought into the visual feast of lights, video and stage effects that accompany the music every tour, would insist on having a static shot of that show available to give people the real feeling of being there. I almost prefer watching high quality bootlegs, filmed from a single vantage point, to the official releases anymore. The real problem is that many bands (not just Rush) hire editors who are not fans and don't really grasp the artist's music. They are only editing a Rush video - with a zillion angle changes - to show themselves off and pad their resumes. I wish the band would realize that's not what most of their fans really want and either take the time to edit the videos themselves or spend more time in the review and approval process before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I've always wished they would offer as an option on the DVDs the ability to watch a fixed, static, centered view of the show. It's cool to get the close ups but you miss the overall effect a lot of the time. I actually thought the CA film did a better job of capturing the lighting effects than the TM film. The TM film didn't come close to presenting how cool the "spider" lighting rig really was. I assume they have a fixed camera center view of the entire stage every time they film and given the capacity of Blu Ray I would think offering that view as an option would be easily doable. This!!! I would think a band like Rush, who put a lot of thought into the visual feast of lights, video and stage effects that accompany the music every tour, would insist on having a static shot of that show available to give people the real feeling of being there. I almost prefer watching high quality bootlegs, filmed from a single vantage point, to the official releases anymore. The real problem is that many bands (not just Rush) hire editors who are not fans and don't really grasp the artist's music. They are only editing a Rush video - with a zillion angle changes - to show themselves off and pad their resumes. I wish the band would realize that's not what most of their fans really want and either take the time to edit the videos themselves or spend more time in the review and approval process before release. I've been hoping this since the last DVD came out That was horrible. Worst editing on a DVD that I've see so far. Maybe we should start a petition? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I'd prefer it to be edited by someone that doesn't have ADHD Way back when, I said the same thing about the Rush In Rio DVD on the old Tri-Net message board, and BOY.....did that ever cause a ruckus!! A few self-righteous people were all in a tizzy about my ADHD comment..... :laughing guy: :laughing guy: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunosamppa Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Get the guys who recorded Toto's last DVD. Say what you like about the band, but the quality of that DVD was flawless! The Toto Blu-rays "Falling in Between Live" and "35th Anniversary Concert Live in Poland" are top notch! What a sound and video, incredible quality. One of the best in my collection. (y) I think the AC/CD Live at River Plate very good also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketom Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Let Clint Eastwood or Steven Speilberg direct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch The Mystery Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think S&A's is the best DVD they've had so far. In every way. And it's my favorite DVD too because I was there at both shows in the first few rows :hail: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think S&A's is the best DVD they've had so far. In every way. And it's my favorite DVD too because I was there at both shows in the first few rows :hail: Well that would certainly make it even more special. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I watched a bit of the Show of Hands concert the other day...and whoever directed that should be beat with a sack of oranges. Constant, spastic camera work. Almost dizzying. How anyone thought it good is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexMike Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I actually love a lot of the camera angles they got for the CA film. The overhead shots are quite cool. The problem is they don't stick with any of the cameras for more than 3 seconds. Even during the climax of "Carnies" - which all you need is a SINGLE wide stage shot to capture the band, pyro and rocking string section together at once - there are still like 20 cuts. Makes me want to strangle the editors! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I actually love a lot of the camera angles they got for the CA film. The overhead shots are quite cool. The problem is they don't stick with any of the cameras for more than 3 seconds. Even during the climax of "Carnies" - which all you need is a SINGLE wide stage shot to capture the band, pyro and rocking string section together at once - there are still like 20 cuts. Makes me want to strangle the editors! I actually yelled out loud at my tv........STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!! lol. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think S&A's is the best DVD they've had so far. In every way.Why, did they edit out the entire coma inducing run of dirges from S&A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Truthfully...I've never seen a video of ANY band that was THAT GOOD! They are great things to have, but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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