fraroc Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Do you consider it cheating when Geddy doesn't play a keyboard part, rather samples it? An example would be when they did Grand Designs live and Ged didn't play the keyboard intro, rather he sampled it while playing the bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBob Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Omega Concern Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have heard Geddy in interviews challenging anyone else to play his live rig. He is doing so much up there and certain songs from the keyboard era are so complex that there is no way he could do some without sampling. I have no problem with it, it is still his work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have no problems at all with it. They can do it however they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Except for a sting section...do you want to see someone else on stage? (or heck OFF stage like a few people did years back?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have heard Geddy in interviews challenging anyone else to play his live rig. He is doing so much up there and certain songs from the keyboard era are so complex that there is no way he could do some without sampling. I have no problem with it, it is still his work! Except when it's not his work, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 No and if he didn't sample some fans would be saying........."BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE ALBUM!!!!!!!!" Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushBoingo Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing him play the Grand designs opening line once, hitting a loop pedal, and then carrying on, but the sampling he does is fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It is cheating. The question should be, is it acceptable? I suspect the responses up to this point would be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If he played it originally, then of course not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Grownup Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 He's busy enough on stage so it doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If it is a sequenced pattern then he pretty much wouldnt play it live anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 As an old timer, I've always taken pride that the guys played every note back in the 70s. For Ged, that meant using his hands feet mouth and sometimes his nose all at the same time. Not that I have a huge problem with sampling, its just I can't brag about the band in the same way I used to. But Ged ain't 24 anymore and he doesn't need to impress anybody anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 There's a limit on what one person can do! There would be an awful large gap in the tunes without the samples and sequencers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'd rather he play the bass and leave the other stuff to sampling if necessary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'd rather he play the bass and leave the other stuff to sampling if necessary? Yeah that's how I feel too. He had to play the stuff years ago because they didn't have the samplers etc. and didn't want to use them. Now I say the more he can play bass the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Do we need to make a distinction between sequencing and sampling? In my mind, they're two different things -- having a synth play a sequence of synth notes is different than Neil triggering a sample of the Hemispheres chord at the end of Far Cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'd rather he play the bass and leave the other stuff to sampling if necessary? Yeah that's how I feel too. He had to play the stuff years ago because they didn't have the samplers etc. and didn't want to use them. Now I say the more he can play bass the better. Ged's my fav bass player. so play damn it, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It's not just about Lee though is it. There are masses of guitar parts that are basically played at the touch of a button. It's phoney and they are phoneys! If they can't recreate it on stage honestly then why compose like that in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Do we need to make a distinction between sequencing and sampling? In my mind, they're two different things -- having a synth play a sequence of synth notes is different than Neil triggering a sample of the Hemispheres chord at the end of Far Cry. How about first making a distinction between fanboys and objectivety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 It's not just about Lee though is it. There are masses of guitar parts that are basically played at the touch of a button. It's phoney and they are phoneys! If they can't recreate it on stage honestly then why compose like that in the first place? Because music isn't all about what can be played on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 More than a few of my friends who have joined me for Rush concerts have commented that they felt like they were hearing someone play the album at high volume (meaning, there wasn't enough improvisation or changes to the songs and they sounded too much like the studio versions). I tend to agree, though it was a little better last tour. I'd prefer them to arrange a version to play live, though I won't say that the samples and sequencers are all bad. I do note that in a lot of boots from the mid 80s to early 90s, the sampling and sequencing often sounds horribly out of place. They do a much better of integrating the sounds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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