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#21 thizzellewashington

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:47 PM

View Posttangy, on 11 January 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

View Postthizzellewashington, on 11 January 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

I think Clockwork Angels and Vapor Trails are in a different tier from the rest of their post-80s work.

I agree. For me its hard to describe but they are more emotional?
Vapor Trails certainly is. That one falls off somewhat by the end (after "Sweet Miracle") but the first nine songs are all so good and so unlike anything else they had ever done, sound-wise, that it's way up there for me. Clockwork is just phenomenal from a songwriting and sequencing standpoint.

The rest of the post-HYF stuff is really uneven to me.

Presto and Roll the Bones sound dated and thin and only some of the songs are at the level of their best stuff.

Counterparts is musically one of the best albums they ever made, but it's also the worst lyrics Neil has ever written.

Test for Echo has a great sound but the songs aren't there. "Driven" and "Resist" are the only songs that are up their with their best.

Snakes, a lot of the songs individually are really good, some even great, but they're all midtempo and so it's hard to listen to from start to finish. Not enough variety.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 04:22 AM

Here are the only songs I actually like from their 21st century albums...

Vapor Trails
1) OLV
2) Ceiling Unlimited
3) Ghost Rider
4) Peaceable Kingdom
5) Vapor Trail
6) Secret Touch
7) Earthshine

- There aren’t any songs on VT that I dislike but the others are just okay or forgettable.


Snakes & Arrows
1) The Main Monkey Business
2) The Way The Wind Blows
3) Hope
4) Malignant Narcissism

- Some forgettable fluff here + a couple of just “okay” level tunes + a trio of songs I dislike.


Clockwork Angels
1) Caravan
2) BU2B
3) CA
4) The Anarchist
5) Carnies
6) Headlong Flight

- the rest: one tune that I dislike while the others are just okay or forgettable

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:55 AM

Masterpiece. But then I had the same reaction when Vapor Trails and Snakes and Arrows came out too. Those three are among the best they've ever recorded.

Test For Echo is probably slightly below that. Didn't totally love it right away, but like Hold Your Fire and Presto it was a slow burner.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 12:22 PM

I love the first five songs and Headlong Flight. The rest is just aight, but nothing I dislike besides the production.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 08:53 PM

I think CA is one of Rush’s best albums. Period. The playing from the Boys at Work is inspired, especially Neil & Ged. Some of Ged’s note choices are hair-raisingly perfect and this is some of Peart’s most vibrant & busy drumming since MP.

Is the production great? No. Rush hasn’t had a great sounding album since MP...IMO. Too many instruments, too many layers...too much “stuff”.

That being said I think it’s a very inspired work.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:00 AM

Counterparts (lyrics aside) wasn't a great sounding album to you?
Someone schedule this fella an ear doctor appointment!
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That's the last one that sounded awesome. Every album after was either too fuzzy/distorted/layered/compressed

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 04:16 AM

View Postjnoble, on 13 January 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

Counterparts (lyrics aside) wasn't a great sounding album to you?
Someone schedule this fella an ear doctor appointment!
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That's the last one that sounded awesome. Every album after was either too fuzzy/distorted/layered/compressed

I’d say that T4E was the last one that sounded awesome. Sure, it’s in my bottom 3 Rush albums but sound-wise it was fine to me.
I agree about the lower quality sound of the last 3 studio albums though.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:23 AM

I've had a Snakes & Arrows epiphany a while ago. My appreciation for S&A keeps growing, I now consider it one of their finest albums. Great production, great songs. Alex sounds great throughout S&A.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:55 AM

View PostPermanentMovingSignals, on 13 January 2019 - 06:23 AM, said:

I've had a Snakes & Arrows epiphany a while ago. My appreciation for S&A keeps growing, I now consider it one of their finest albums. Great production, great songs. Alex sounds great throughout S&A.
Alex is on fire throughout the album.  :yes:

But tempo and Neil's generally pissy attitude drag the album down a bit over the long haul, for me.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:57 AM

Can't even remember the names of most of the songs, or even what they sound like...that says it all really.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:56 AM

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Can't even remember the names of most of the songs, or even what they sound like...that says it all really.
Any chance of you starting a thrash metal band?

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 12:18 PM

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View PostFridge, on 13 January 2019 - 10:57 AM, said:

Can't even remember the names of most of the songs, or even what they sound like...that says it all really.
Any chance of you starting a thrash metal band?

I'd love to, believe me.....

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 01:07 PM

View PostFridge, on 13 January 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 13 January 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 13 January 2019 - 10:57 AM, said:

Can't even remember the names of most of the songs, or even what they sound like...that says it all really.
Any chance of you starting a thrash metal band?

I'd love to, believe me.....
What's stopping you? No good drummers?

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:12 PM

CA is the third part of their excellent 21st century trilogy. It did take a little time for me to get fully into it because it came at the end of a huge Rush saturation period for me. I was still so into S&A, it kinda had to take a back seat for awhile.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:53 PM

I like Headlong Flight and Caravan, but the rest of it is just bland, boring drivel.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 11:55 PM

it took time to grow on me, but after many play throughs I love CA.

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 10:00 AM

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I like Headlong Flight and Caravan, but the rest of it is just bland, boring drivel.
Hey, there!  Good to see you, EM!

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 07:47 PM

I got into rush late. Ca was the one that did it!. I also think VT is top shelf and I believe the early albums are the best of the lot.i love all their music but if I was listing my top 5 today it would be aftk, gup mp 2112 and hemisphere.    In the top 10 I would say signals vt ca cos  pw .

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:42 PM

Of the "newer" albums;

Vapor Trails had some moments, but it's not the first one I grab....

I like MOST of Snakes and Arrows, It took me seeing some of the songs live a few times before they really caught on with me..but maybe like two or three don't sit well. Armour and Sword is one of my favorites... although a lot of people seem to not like that one?!?

At first I wasn't thrilled with Clockwork Angels, but the more I heard it (and experiencing it live several times) I REALLY started to like it a lot!

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Posted Yesterday, 04:00 PM

 goose, on 13 January 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

 PermanentMovingSignals, on 13 January 2019 - 06:23 AM, said:

I've had a Snakes & Arrows epiphany a while ago. My appreciation for S&A keeps growing, I now consider it one of their finest albums. Great production, great songs. Alex sounds great throughout S&A.
Alex is on fire throughout the album.  :yes:

But tempo and Neil's generally pissy attitude drag the album down a bit over the long haul, for me.

Yes. Alex shines especially the acoustic stuff.

All the instrumentals are a highlight





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