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#1 Entre_Perpetuo

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:55 AM

So you all know the greats, but this isn't for them. Leave Dylan out of it! :P

Here's the place to appreciate some of the more under-appreciated lyricists and their verses.


For me today it has to be Kerry Livgren of Kansas (with Steve Walsh and his fellow collaborators when applicable). Listening to Leftoverture right now, and it's just now striking me how key the lyrics are to these songs. They're as vital and poignant as the music itself in many cases, and I feel like no one ever talks about that.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 12:33 PM

I'm going through a singer/songwriter phase at the moment, and two guys that I have really come to appreciate are Steve Forbert and Steve Earle ... I think Forbert esp is very underrated

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:15 PM

Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator, some of the darkest and greatest lyrics that I love.

Listen to A plague of light house keepers

I know that there's no time
I know that there's no rhyme...
false signs find me
I don't want to hate,
I just want to grow;
why can't I let me
live and be free?..but I die very slowly alone.
I know no more ways,
I am so afraid,
myself won't let me
just be myself and so I am completely alone....
The maelstrom of my memory
is a vampire and it feeds on me
now, staggering madly, over the brink I
fall.
vi. (Custard's) Last Stand
Lighthouses might house the key
but can I reach the door?
I want to walk on the sea
so that I may better find ashore...
but how can I ever keep my feet dry?
I scan the horizon
I must keep my eyes on all parts of me.
Looking back on the years
it seems that I have lost
the way:
Like a dog in the night, I have run to a manger
...now I am the stranger I stay in.
All of the grief I have seen
leaves me chasing solitary peace;
but I hold experience in my head....
I'm too close to the light
I don't think I see right, for I blind me....
vii. The Clot Thickens
WHERE is the God that guides my hand?
HOW can the hands of others reach me?
WHEN will I find what I grope for?
WHO is going to teach me?
I am me/me are we/we can't see
any way out of here.
Crashing sea/atrophied history:
Chance has lost my Guinevere....
I don't want to be one wave in the water
But sea will drag me deep
One more haggard DROWNED MAN...
I can see the Lemmings coming, but I know I'm just a man;
Do I join or do I founder? Which can is the best I may?
viii. Land's End (Sineline)/We Go Now
Oceans drifting sideways, I am pulled into the spell;
I feel you around me...I know you well.
Stars slice horizons where the lines stand much too stark;
I feel I am drowning...hands stretch in the dark.
Camps of panoply and majesty, what is Freedom of Choice?
Where do I stand in the pageantry...whose is my voice?
It doesn't feel so very bad now: I think the end is the start.
Begin to feel very glad now:
ALL THINGS ARE A PART
ALL THINGS ARE APART
ALL THINGS ARE A PART.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:16 PM

Sorry for the long lyrics spam, just wanted to show case

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:37 PM

Under appreciated in the US, gord downie of tragically hip

RIP man

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:41 PM

Bob Marley

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:53 PM

View PostLucas, on 01 November 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

I'm going through a singer/songwriter phase at the moment, and two guys that I have really come to appreciate are Steve Forbert and Steve Earle ... I think Forbert esp is very underrated
I saw Steve Forbert in concert once years ago and he was excellent. I always thought he would end up bigger.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

View PostBigbobby10, on 01 November 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator, some of the darkest and greatest lyrics that I love.

Listen to A plague of light house keepers

I know that there's no time
I know that there's no rhyme...
false signs find me
I don't want to hate,
I just want to grow;
why can't I let me
live and be free?..but I die very slowly alone.
I know no more ways,
I am so afraid,
myself won't let me
just be myself and so I am completely alone....
The maelstrom of my memory
is a vampire and it feeds on me
now, staggering madly, over the brink I
fall.
vi. (Custard's) Last Stand
Lighthouses might house the key
but can I reach the door?
I want to walk on the sea
so that I may better find ashore...
but how can I ever keep my feet dry?
I scan the horizon
I must keep my eyes on all parts of me.
Looking back on the years
it seems that I have lost
the way:
Like a dog in the night, I have run to a manger
...now I am the stranger I stay in.
All of the grief I have seen
leaves me chasing solitary peace;
but I hold experience in my head....
I'm too close to the light
I don't think I see right, for I blind me....
vii. The Clot Thickens
WHERE is the God that guides my hand?
HOW can the hands of others reach me?
WHEN will I find what I grope for?
WHO is going to teach me?
I am me/me are we/we can't see
any way out of here.
Crashing sea/atrophied history:
Chance has lost my Guinevere....
I don't want to be one wave in the water
But sea will drag me deep
One more haggard DROWNED MAN...
I can see the Lemmings coming, but I know I'm just a man;
Do I join or do I founder? Which can is the best I may?
viii. Land's End (Sineline)/We Go Now
Oceans drifting sideways, I am pulled into the spell;
I feel you around me...I know you well.
Stars slice horizons where the lines stand much too stark;
I feel I am drowning...hands stretch in the dark.
Camps of panoply and majesty, what is Freedom of Choice?
Where do I stand in the pageantry...whose is my voice?
It doesn't feel so very bad now: I think the end is the start.
Begin to feel very glad now:
ALL THINGS ARE A PART
ALL THINGS ARE APART
ALL THINGS ARE A PART.

That literally reads like some of my more convoluted poems, but I think it's awesome! I'll have to check that song out. Now that Halloween has passed, I might slip back into some comfortable prog Rock and see how much farther out I can get before another taste attracts my attention. Kansas and Genesis sounded great and refreshing today.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:31 PM

View PostBigbobby10, on 01 November 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator, some of the darkest and greatest lyrics that I love.

Listen to A plague of light house keepers

I know that there's no time
I know that there's no rhyme...
false signs find me
I don't want to hate,
I just want to grow;
why can't I let me
live and be free?..but I die very slowly alone.
I know no more ways,
I am so afraid,
myself won't let me
just be myself and so I am completely alone....
The maelstrom of my memory
is a vampire and it feeds on me
now, staggering madly, over the brink I
fall.
vi. (Custard's) Last Stand
Lighthouses might house the key
but can I reach the door?
I want to walk on the sea
so that I may better find ashore...
but how can I ever keep my feet dry?
I scan the horizon
I must keep my eyes on all parts of me.
Looking back on the years
it seems that I have lost
the way:
Like a dog in the night, I have run to a manger
...now I am the stranger I stay in.
All of the grief I have seen
leaves me chasing solitary peace;
but I hold experience in my head....
I'm too close to the light
I don't think I see right, for I blind me....
vii. The Clot Thickens
WHERE is the God that guides my hand?
HOW can the hands of others reach me?
WHEN will I find what I grope for?
WHO is going to teach me?
I am me/me are we/we can't see
any way out of here.
Crashing sea/atrophied history:
Chance has lost my Guinevere....
I don't want to be one wave in the water
But sea will drag me deep
One more haggard DROWNED MAN...
I can see the Lemmings coming, but I know I'm just a man;
Do I join or do I founder? Which can is the best I may?
viii. Land's End (Sineline)/We Go Now
Oceans drifting sideways, I am pulled into the spell;
I feel you around me...I know you well.
Stars slice horizons where the lines stand much too stark;
I feel I am drowning...hands stretch in the dark.
Camps of panoply and majesty, what is Freedom of Choice?
Where do I stand in the pageantry...whose is my voice?
It doesn't feel so very bad now: I think the end is the start.
Begin to feel very glad now:
ALL THINGS ARE A PART
ALL THINGS ARE APART
ALL THINGS ARE A PART.

Wow... that song made me want to buy that album and get into VDGG. Patience will now be key.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:34 PM

John Perry-Barlow and Robert Hunter were incredibly underrated for their time and are only just really getting the due recognition they deserved.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:37 PM

But as far as Livgren is concerned, this is masterful:

I'm woven in a fantasy,
I can't believe the things I see
The path that I have chosen now has led me to a wall
And with each passing day I feel a little more like something dear was lost

It rises now before me,
A dark and silent barrier between,
All I am, and all that I would ever want to be
It's just a travesty,
Towering, marking off the boundaries my spirit would erase

To pass beyond is what I seek,
I fear that I may be too weak
And those are few who've seen it through to glimpse the other side,
The promised land is waiting like a maiden that is soon to be a bride

The moment is a masterpiece,
The weight of indecision's in the air
Standing there,
The symbol and the sum of all that's me
It's just a travesty,
Towering, blocking out the light and blinding me
I want to see

Gold and diamonds cast a spell,
It's not for me, I know it well
The riches that I seek are waiting on the other side
There's more than I can measure in the treasures of the love that I can find

And though it's always been with me,
I must tear down the wall and let it be
All I am, and all that I was ever meant to be,
In harmony
Shining true and smiling back at all who wait to cross
There is no loss


"The Wall"

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:13 PM

Matt Bellamy (Muse)

Chase your dreams away

Glass needles in the hay

The sun forgives the clouds

You are my holy shroud

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

No, it doesn't change

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

And you can't resist

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Chase your dreams away

Glass needles in the hay

The sun forgives the clouds

You are my holy shroud

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

No, it doesn't change

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

You can't resist

You can't resist

Making me feel

You can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

You can't resist

You can't resist

Making me feel

You can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

And you can't resist

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Edited by Boots, 01 November 2017 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:17 PM

View PostBoots, on 01 November 2017 - 11:13 PM, said:

Matt Bellamy (Muse)

Chase your dreams away

Glass needles in the hay

The sun forgives the clouds

You are my holy shroud

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

No, it doesn't change

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

And you can't resist

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Chase your dreams away

Glass needles in the hay

The sun forgives the clouds

You are my holy shroud

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

I just don't care if it's real

That won't change how it feels

No, it doesn't change

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

You can't resist

You can't resist

Making me feel

You can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

You can't resist

You can't resist

Making me feel

You can't resist

Making me feel

Eternally missed

And you can't resist

And you can't resist

Making me feel

Nice cut! Definitely one that should've made the album.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 03:23 PM

Hard to get better than David Coverdale

I believe my love for you
Is a love that will last forever,
An' I'm here to testify
I'm a prisoner of your heart
Baby don't you believe
When I tell you I love you
That I really mean it,
Don't you walk away,
Don't you turn your back on me

or Sammy Hagar

Mmm, slip n' slide, push it in, uh
A-bitch sure got the rhythm
Holdin' back, yeah I got control
Oh, hooked into her system, uh

Maybe Brian Johnson

Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me put my love on the line
Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me cut your cake with my knife
;)

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 05:26 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 November 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Hard to get better than David Coverdale

I believe my love for you
Is a love that will last forever,
An' I'm here to testify
I'm a prisoner of your heart
Baby don't you believe
When I tell you I love you
That I really mean it,
Don't you walk away,
Don't you turn your back on me

or Sammy Hagar

Mmm, slip n' slide, push it in, uh
A-bitch sure got the rhythm
Holdin' back, yeah I got control
Oh, hooked into her system, uh

Maybe Brian Johnson

Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me put my love on the line
Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me cut your cake with my knife
;)

Johnson's grasp of pentameter is more than masterful, it's shameless.

Edited by vaportrailer, 02 November 2017 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:07 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 November 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Hard to get better than David Coverdale

I believe my love for you
Is a love that will last forever,
An' I'm here to testify
I'm a prisoner of your heart
Baby don't you believe
When I tell you I love you
That I really mean it,
Don't you walk away,
Don't you turn your back on me

or Sammy Hagar

Mmm, slip n' slide, push it in, uh
A-bitch sure got the rhythm
Holdin' back, yeah I got control
Oh, hooked into her system, uh

Maybe Brian Johnson

Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me put my love on the line
Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me cut your cake with my knife
;)

Funny how you didn't list Bon Scott... probably because his innuendo filled, outlaw, overtly sexual, violent brand of lyricism was actually poetically nuanced and totally entertaining. Bon Scott = great lyricist

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:28 AM

Neal morse while in spocks beard.

Love his voice and lyrics back then


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:56 AM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 November 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 November 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Hard to get better than David Coverdale

I believe my love for you
Is a love that will last forever,
An' I'm here to testify
I'm a prisoner of your heart
Baby don't you believe
When I tell you I love you
That I really mean it,
Don't you walk away,
Don't you turn your back on me

or Sammy Hagar

Mmm, slip n' slide, push it in, uh
A-bitch sure got the rhythm
Holdin' back, yeah I got control
Oh, hooked into her system, uh

Maybe Brian Johnson

Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me put my love on the line
Let me put my love into you, babe
Let me cut your cake with my knife
;)

Funny how you didn't list Bon Scott... probably because his innuendo filled, outlaw, overtly sexual, violent brand of lyricism was actually poetically nuanced and totally entertaining. Bon Scott = great lyricist

Scott, like David Lee Roth and Steven Tyler, was more of a "sly" lyricist.  Coverdale, Hagar and Johnson are ham handed or sappy.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:42 PM

Fish


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:13 AM

View PostOracle, on 01 November 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

John Perry-Barlow and Robert Hunter were incredibly underrated for their time and are only just really getting the due recognition they deserved.





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