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Poll: Permanent Waves or Drama ??? (52 member(s) have cast votes)

Which Album Do You Like More ?

  1. Permanent Waves (49 votes [94.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 94.23%

  2. Drama (3 votes [5.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.77%

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#41 grasbo

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:27 PM

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View Postgrasbo, on 17 October 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I remember I bought both albums at the same time but probably about a year or so after they were released.Permanent Waves I don't know why I didn't purchase straight away.Drama was because Tormato had been lousy and Anderson and Wakerman had been replaced by that Buggles mob.Horrors.Permanent Waves wins it for me but I do like Drama even though I be pressed to remember a melody on it.
If I recall correctly Tormato was my first Yes "new release" purchase and love it to this day. Different strokes for folks I suppose. It's a bit weird in places but in a great way in my view...

Agreed...I've always liked it a lot.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:35 PM

After GFTO Tormato was a big let down for me.Even the band admit its faults.The production is its main fault,its lifeless.And there is nothing to match Awaken still one of favourite prog tracks of all time.Still I can see why some people like it.I like Big Generator,others loathe it

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:35 PM

I do like Drama, but even on a Yes fan site I think Permanent Waves would still win.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:37 PM

Wow, this was actually really tough for me despite not being a big Yes fan. I went through a huge Yes phase when I was young but have rarely returned to them since, being content to catch the occasional tune on the radio, with the exception of Drama. I've always loved this album. Guess I'm weird though as my second favorite of theirs is Relayer. Then I get conventional with Close to the Edge at #3.

Anyway, I had to think hard about this as I'm not in love with Freewill or Natural Science, like about everyone else is, but love the rest of PeW, esp Jacob's Ladder. Re Drama, I don't love Into the Lens, but really like the rest, and really really love Run Through the Light. Always have. So it's a close call.

But...have to give it to PeW because no matter how indifferent I am to Freewill and Natural Science (apart from the live version on Different Stages), PeW is too amazing. Drama is amazing but it sounds like an amazing album from 1980; PeW is an amazing album that just doesn't age; it still sounds fresh, it's the once and future classic.

Speaking of Relayer, I used to listen to side 1 mainly to hear this thirty some seconds of bliss, starting at 13:42...



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Posted 17 October 2016 - 04:26 PM

I've always had a soft spot for Drama, it being the first Yes album with which I became acquainted.  My brother had it on 8-track and I listened to it and loved it.  I was able to take it at face value because, at that point, I had no idea who Jon Anderson was and had no preconceived notions about what Yes should sound like.  I was fond of it then and I'm fond of it now.  

That being said...Permanent Waves kicks its ass.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 05:46 PM

View PostCitizen of the World, on 17 October 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:

I do like Drama, but even on a Yes fan site I think Permanent Waves would still win.

While I dig Rush more than Yes, I'm not sold on that observation. I think that Drama and Permanent Waves are both superb albums for the respective bands.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 05:52 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 17 October 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

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What is Segue laughing about? That's his worst scarf yet...

You wouldn't see me in an ascot

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:10 PM

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View Posttreeduck, on 17 October 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

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What is Segue laughing about? That's his worst scarf yet...

You wouldn't see me in an ascot
We'd probably see you at Ascot though.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:22 PM

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View Posttreeduck, on 17 October 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

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What is Segue laughing about? That's his worst scarf yet...

Ha!

I think that 'scarf' is more like an ascot.



...and now I'll be turning in my Man card, and backing away, slowly.

Or :outtahere:
"Ascot" sounds like some tall, thin dog that's owned by a snobby rich person. The Ascot, shittily named 'Brinkley' or the like, would wear a plaid ascot that matches their owner's plaid ascot.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:34 PM

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View Posttoymaker, on 17 October 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

I-am-a-ca-ma-ra...ca-ma-ra,ca-ma-ra...

Always makes me chuckle.

There are some great tracks on Drama, though.

Just between us, I think it's time for us to realize, the spaces in between, leave room for you and I to grow

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Mahha GoGoGo

Ever read about WHY anime looks like that? That is, why the movement is sudden stop and go AND why the constantly drawn big eyes. Kind of interesting.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:45 PM

I see this is the blowout it should be      :rush:

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 06:58 PM

View PostRutlefan, on 17 October 2016 - 03:37 PM, said:

Wow, this was actually really tough for me despite not being a big Yes fan. I went through a huge Yes phase when I was young but have rarely returned to them since, being content to catch the occasional tune on the radio, with the exception of Drama. I've always loved this album. Guess I'm weird though as my second favorite of theirs is Relayer. Then I get conventional with Close to the Edge at #3.

Anyway, I had to think hard about this as I'm not in love with Freewill or Natural Science, like about everyone else is, but love the rest of PeW, esp Jacob's Ladder. Re Drama, I don't love Into the Lens, but really like the rest, and really really love Run Through the Light. Always have. So it's a close call.

But...have to give it to PeW because no matter how indifferent I am to Freewill and Natural Science (apart from the live version on Different Stages), PeW is too amazing. Drama is amazing but it sounds like an amazing album from 1980; PeW is an amazing album that just doesn't age; it still sounds fresh, it's the once and future classic.

Speaking of Relayer, I used to listen to side 1 mainly to hear this thirty some seconds of bliss, starting at 13:42...



I love that whole Victory March section of Gates, from the very beginning with the keyboards, through Howe's take over on his pedal steel guitar up to the fade to Soon.  One of the most powerful and melodic moments in Rock history.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:36 PM

Great discussion

Based on the Hemispheres vs Going For The One thread, I thought this would be closer, but I do understand the landslide here

Drama has been a favorite of mine - I like it better than Going For The One  




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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:24 PM

Not much of a battle or even a slight skirmish. Harsh words? :lol:

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:39 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 17 October 2016 - 09:24 PM, said:

Not much of a battle or even a slight skirmish. Harsh words? :lol:

lol

no, it's the just reality ..

Hemispheres vs Going For The One was ( is ) 31 to 11 in favor of Hemispheres ..

I thought this one would be closer, as Drama, for me, is a better, more complete album than Going For The One

Entre Nous is the deal breaker for me - it's a total dud

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:42 PM

View PostLucas, on 17 October 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 17 October 2016 - 09:24 PM, said:

Not much of a battle or even a slight skirmish. Harsh words? :lol:

lol

no, it's the just reality ..

Hemispheres vs Going For The One was ( is ) 31 to 11 in favor of Hemispheres ..

I thought this one would be closer, as Drama, for me, is a better, more complete album than Going For The One

Entre Nous is the deal breaker for me - it's a total dud
:tsk:

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:56 PM

View PostReRushed, on 17 October 2016 - 09:42 PM, said:

View PostLucas, on 17 October 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 17 October 2016 - 09:24 PM, said:

Not much of a battle or even a slight skirmish. Harsh words? :lol:

lol

no, it's the just reality ..

Hemispheres vs Going For The One was ( is ) 31 to 11 in favor of Hemispheres ..

I thought this one would be closer, as Drama, for me, is a better, more complete album than Going For The One

Entre Nous is the deal breaker for me - it's a total dud
:tsk:

Watching the boys perform "Entre Nous" live on the "Snakes & Arrows" Tour was MIND-BLOWING!!!

What a wonderful song!!!!  A masterpiece.

Fun to play on the drums too!!!!

And people on here give me shit for saying "Vapor Snails" is a dud.  LAUGH OUT FUKKING LOUD!!

LOFL!!!!!!

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:56 PM

DRAMA > VAPOR TRAILS

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:01 PM

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 17 October 2016 - 09:56 PM, said:

TRUTH AND SOUL > DRAMA > VAPOR TRAILS
That's better.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:05 PM

Let me rate the songs on Permanent Waves.

The Spirit of Radio - Really good
Freewill - Really good
Jacob's Ladder - Excellent
Entre Nous - Ok
Different Strings - Snoozer
Natural Science - Not nearly as good as the rest of you nerds think it is.




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