Calling All Liberals! We Need You!

[bathory]

I think it's funny how some take it all so serious, not so much the topics , but the culture of message boards.. I was told recently that I bring nothing useful to this forum.. Who gives a shit what I bring? We aren't curing cancer here., its just another way to pass the time

 

yeah it was alex's remark about you only calling people assholes.

[ILSnwdog]

I think it's funny how some take it all so serious, not so much the topics , but the culture of message boards.. I was told recently that I bring nothing useful to this forum.. Who gives a shit what I bring? We aren't curing cancer here., its just another way to pass the time

 

yeah it was alex's remark about you only calling people assholes.

If the shoe fits, right? There are certainly a few sphincters amongst us. :LMAO:

[OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan]

I think it's funny how some take it all so serious, not so much the topics , but the culture of message boards.. I was told recently that I bring nothing useful to this forum.. Who gives a shit what I bring? We aren't curing cancer here., its just another way to pass the time

 

yeah it was alex's remark about you only calling people assholes.

 

Maybe the people he's calling assholes, are assholes.

[Lorraine]

I would say 15 is not too early to learn something, but it depends on how people are "in there" :)

 

The forum has an express "no personal attacks" policy, so as long as you can handle personal attacks, you're fine.

 

Right. It's just window dressing to lure in the humorless. :laughing guy:

[OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan]

I think it's funny how some take it all so serious, not so much the topics , but the culture of message boards.. I was told recently that I bring nothing useful to this forum.. Who gives a shit what I bring? We aren't curing cancer here., its just another way to pass the time

 

yeah it was alex's remark about you only calling people assholes.

If the shoe fits, right? There are certainly a few sphincters amongst us. :LMAO:

 

Damnit...Beat me to it.

[ILSnwdog]

 

And I DID vote for Jill Stein.

Oh, so you're the one.

[pjbear05]

Hmm-kinda sounds like CP's Territorial Games.

 

A Gubmint hack like me is gonna look into this, now that I finally hit the century.

[bathory]

I think it's funny how some take it all so serious, not so much the topics , but the culture of message boards.. I was told recently that I bring nothing useful to this forum.. Who gives a shit what I bring? We aren't curing cancer here., its just another way to pass the time

 

yeah it was alex's remark about you only calling people assholes.

 

Maybe the people he's calling assholes, are assholes.

 

they are

[OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan]

And I DID vote for Jill Stein.

Oh, so you're the one.

 

Entirely possible and highly likely.

[invisible airwave]

And I DID vote for Jill Stein.

Oh, so you're the one.

 

Hopefully, I'm not "the one" who voted for some throwaway besides the giant douche and turd sandwich in 2004.

 

Couldn't resist mentioning it since that SP episode was on Comedy Central today.

[Dread Pirate Robert]

 

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and expression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

[Ancient Ways]

 

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and exp<b></b>ression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

 

2 people arguing on the Internet might change each others minds and feel better about themselves but nothing real gets accomplished. Lets say there is a discussion over new health care one for and one against. It's a spirited discussion and both people even learn new things but one is still for and one still against. Nothing changed with new health care. It's an exercise in verbal sparring like these posts. That's my point and my opinion,

[bathory]

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and expression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

 

2 people arguing on the Internet might change each others minds and feel better about themselves but nothing real gets accomplished. Lets say there is a discussion over new health care one for and one against. It's a spirited discussion and both people even learn new things but one is still for and one still against. Nothing changed with new health care. It's an exercise in verbal sparring like these posts. That's my point and my opinion,

there are plenty instances where minds are changed in a political discussion. it doesn't happen a whole lot on SOCN because most of those dudes are 50 and pretty much know where they stand on shit, but that doesn't mean it never happens. and who cares if nothing "real" is accomplished? define "real." I mean, damn, the attitudes from some on here, it's like if you aren't talking about van halen or queensryche, there's no point in talking at all!

Edited August 29, 2013 by bathory

[ILSnwdog]

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and exp<b></b>ression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

 

2 people arguing on the Internet might change each others minds and feel better about themselves but nothing real gets accomplished. Lets say there is a discussion over new health care one for and one against. It's a spirited discussion and both people even learn new things but one is still for and one still against. Nothing changed with new health care. It's an exercise in verbal sparring like these posts. That's my point and my opinion,

there are plenty instances where minds are changed in a political discussion. it doesn't happen a whole lot on SOCN because most of those dudes are 50 and pretty much know where they stand on shit, but that doesn't mean it never happens. and who cares if nothing "real" is accomplished? define "real." I mean, damn, the attitudes from some on here, it's like if you aren't talking about van halen or queensryche, there's no point in talking at all!

I've changed my opinion on lots of things since joining SOCN. Plus, I feel much more informed about the world.

[Ancient Ways]

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and exp<b></b>ression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

 

2 people arguing on the Internet might change each others minds and feel better about themselves but nothing real gets accomplished. Lets say there is a discussion over new health care one for and one against. It's a spirited discussion and both people even learn new things but one is still for and one still against. Nothing changed with new health care. It's an exercise in verbal sparring like these posts. That's my point and my opinion,

there are plenty instances where minds are changed in a political discussion. it doesn't happen a whole lot on SOCN because most of those dudes are 50 and pretty much know where they stand on shit, but that doesn't mean it never happens. and who cares if nothing "real" is accomplished? define "real." I mean, damn, the attitudes from some on here, it's like if you aren't talking about van halen or queensryche, there's no point in talking at all!

I've changed my opinion on lots of things since joining SOCN. Plus, I feel much more informed about the world.

 

I'm having a hard time explaining. I'm talking about substantive change, not individuals. If its a hobby, have at it. I'm talking about people that feel like some real good comes out of political discussions. Some feel like the world is changing somehow when it is "an exercise in self indulgence" to a great extent.

[ILSnwdog]

The difference is I don't think most people discussing bands on a message board feel like they are accomplishing something real in the world. In my experience people that discuss politics seriously in the same fashion feel this way and are fooling themselves into thinking that something useful will come out of it.

 

Useful things can indeed come out of it, and you are fooling yourself if you don't accept that fact.

 

Over the years, I have seen people open their minds to new ideas and perspectives, even to the extent of radical personal change. Even for people who have been relatively consistent in their views over the years, the practice of going up against other points of view and arguments can serve to make them understand their own positions in a deeper and more nuanced way than before.

 

How else is the world going to meaningfully change for the better, unless it is through communication and exp<b></b>ression of ideas?

 

People who say that political discussions are meaningless hot air which never serve any useful purpose are themselves engaging in bullshit hot air pronouncements.

 

2 people arguing on the Internet might change each others minds and feel better about themselves but nothing real gets accomplished. Lets say there is a discussion over new health care one for and one against. It's a spirited discussion and both people even learn new things but one is still for and one still against. Nothing changed with new health care. It's an exercise in verbal sparring like these posts. That's my point and my opinion,

there are plenty instances where minds are changed in a political discussion. it doesn't happen a whole lot on SOCN because most of those dudes are 50 and pretty much know where they stand on shit, but that doesn't mean it never happens. and who cares if nothing "real" is accomplished? define "real." I mean, damn, the attitudes from some on here, it's like if you aren't talking about van halen or queensryche, there's no point in talking at all!

I've changed my opinion on lots of things since joining SOCN. Plus, I feel much more informed about the world.

 

I'm having a hard time explaining. I'm talking about substantive change, not individuals. If its a hobby, have at it. I'm talking about people that feel like some real good comes out of political discussions. Some feel like the world is changing somehow when it is "an exercise in self indulgence" to a great extent.

I agree. Just discussing politics isn't going to change the world. I just like discussing politics because it helps me feel informed.

[goose]

Seems anytime a Liberal minded point of view steps up in there, they are accused of being a " Libtard " ...why would anyone bother?..You guys got the lock on it

:pussy: ;) C'mon...give 'er a go!

[Rushman14]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

[Maverick]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

That's the exact same feeling I get every time you venture in there, too!

Edited August 31, 2013 by Sheldon Cooper

[Xanadoood]

Seems anytime a Liberal minded point of view steps up in there, they are accused of being a " Libtard " ...why would anyone bother?..You guys got the lock on it

:pussy: ;) C'mon...give 'er a go!

 

No way. You guys are a bunch of a lunatics.. I'd have to come in armed to the teeth!

[goose]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

That's the exact same feeling I get every time you venture in there, too!

:clap:

[JARG]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

That's the exact same feeling I get every time you venture in there, too!

 

I LOL'd

Edited August 31, 2013 by JARG

[invisible airwave]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

I believe it's called stalking former high school classmates on Facebook.

[Rushman14]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

That's the exact same feeling I get every time you venture in there, too!

 

how did you know I was referring to you?

 

:P

[Maverick]

every time I venture in there, it reminds me of visiting an old friend...

 

and then realizing he's still an obnoxious a-hole :)

 

That's the exact same feeling I get every time you venture in there, too!

 

how did you know I was referring to you?

 

:P

 

:cheers: