GeddyRulz Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 7 2012, 01:49 PM) QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jun 7 2012, 01:45 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 7 2012, 01:41 PM) FYI, the band makes very little money off of album sales. You're really only stealing from the record company, and really, who cares about them? Rush makes their money off of touring... This is very true, of ALL artists. The record companies make money on the albums, the band makes money on touring. Each helps promote the other: the album gets people to go to the shows, and the shows get people to buy the albums (if they don't already have them). 2nd part is not always correct. Many people go to Rush shows that dont buy their new albums. Well, of course it's not ALWAYS correct. I said the shows help PROMOTE the albums; I didn't say going to a concert ENSURED the concert-goer would buy the album. Some will buy the album after seeing a concert; some won't. Like commercials: just because you saw the commercial on TV, it's not a GUARANTEE you'll buy the product... but the advertising helps. The albums are advertisements for the concerts, the concerts are advertisements for the albums. Edited June 7, 2012 by GeddyRulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 No download for me...I am more than happy to shell out a few bucks for the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koobie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) This thread has restored my faith in humanity! There are people in the world (and on this forum): who never drive faster than the posted speed limit, never jay-walk, never make personal phone calls or browse the web at work, got in a football or basketball pool where gambling is illegal, and are just all around better people than me. Edited June 7, 2012 by koobie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (kentpilot @ Jun 7 2012, 01:51 PM) So i've been quite the lurker but this thread prompted me to get an account, hello all, My one complaint about rush is their attitude towards leaks and file sharing, Iron Maiden in 2000 were strictly against it and then in 2003 were all for it, they completely recognize it's ability to make sales. I love myself more, there is no one else more important than myself. Friday I'm gonna buy the CD because that's when the record store will get it in, then I'll get my fanpack which I ordered in early May. Then I'll go to the show September 11th and I'll buy a shirt. I don't care if I downloaded it, I paid for it. I downloaded it, and seeded it. I hope someone who isn't a huge rush fan who never planned on buying it downloads it and goes wow this is f***ing good and becomes a bigger fan, buys merch goes to shows and maybe buys the awesome album. That happens quite a bit. Source: I was one of those people. For some, it's more about principle than practicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentpilot Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 02:18 PM) QUOTE (kentpilot @ Jun 7 2012, 01:51 PM) So i've been quite the lurker but this thread prompted me to get an account, hello all, My one complaint about rush is their attitude towards leaks and file sharing, Iron Maiden in 2000 were strictly against it and then in 2003 were all for it, they completely recognize it's ability to make sales. I love myself more, there is no one else more important than myself. Friday I'm gonna buy the CD because that's when the record store will get it in, then I'll get my fanpack which I ordered in early May. Then I'll go to the show September 11th and I'll buy a shirt. I don't care if I downloaded it, I paid for it. I downloaded it, and seeded it. I hope someone who isn't a huge rush fan who never planned on buying it downloads it and goes wow this is f***ing good and becomes a bigger fan, buys merch goes to shows and maybe buys the awesome album. That happens quite a bit. Source: I was one of those people. For some, it's more about principle than practicality. And that's fine, to each their own, but why should they persecute those who are different than them when they do no harm to anyone, in some cases help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (kentpilot @ Jun 7 2012, 02:20 PM) QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 02:18 PM) QUOTE (kentpilot @ Jun 7 2012, 01:51 PM) So i've been quite the lurker but this thread prompted me to get an account, hello all, My one complaint about rush is their attitude towards leaks and file sharing, Iron Maiden in 2000 were strictly against it and then in 2003 were all for it, they completely recognize it's ability to make sales. I love myself more, there is no one else more important than myself. Friday I'm gonna buy the CD because that's when the record store will get it in, then I'll get my fanpack which I ordered in early May. Then I'll go to the show September 11th and I'll buy a shirt. I don't care if I downloaded it, I paid for it. I downloaded it, and seeded it. I hope someone who isn't a huge rush fan who never planned on buying it downloads it and goes wow this is f***ing good and becomes a bigger fan, buys merch goes to shows and maybe buys the awesome album. That happens quite a bit. Source: I was one of those people. For some, it's more about principle than practicality. And that's fine, to each their own, but why should they persecute those who are different than them when they do no harm to anyone, in some cases help. True...to each their own and nobody on either side should be judged necessarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Tony R @ Jun 7 2012, 12:44 PM) QUOTE (Jaminbenb @ Jun 7 2012, 07:34 PM) I downloaded it on Monday, and my fanpack came today, I don't give a ratzass what anyone thinks! If it's THERE I'm going to go GET IT! Stop judging people already and get a freaking life fer krissake! Hopefully you'll be equally non-judgemental if someone steals your pocket money Not the same thing. He paid for his UK fan pack. His download didn't affect the band's bottom line at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaminbenb Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (Just an Escape Artist @ Jun 6 2012, 10:30 PM) Now that someone has taken it upon themselves to leak the new Rush album against the wishes of the band that we all say we love, I wonder how we all feel about ourselves knowing that we are ripping off our favorite band. I see all these threads about how great the album is or "the official whatever" thread, and i am thinking, wait a minute, the album is not out yet. I am sure many of you will rationalze that you will purchase later. Maybe so, but many won't, that is a fact, so the band we love is getting ripped off. We now have about a million threads about the new album that Rush has not released the album yet. Rush did not intend for anyone to hear it until it is released next week. Rush has stated thier distaste for this since VT was leaked, but here we are again pissing on the band the band once again. Does this not bother anyones concience, or do we all just care about ourselves? Just a thought as I wait "Lit up in anticipation" for June 12 Let the flaming begin One thing you are also failing to realize.... I received my "official copy" today which is about 4-5 days before the "official release date" you hold so dearly! I'm guessing you are sad because you either can't find or don't know HOW to download it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kena2112 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE This thread has restored my faith in humanity! There are people in the world (and on this forum): who never drive faster than the posted speed limit, never jay-walk, never make personal phone calls or browse the web at work, got in a football or basketball pool where gambling is illegal, and are just all around better people than me. AS I AM READING THIS.....AT WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (kena2112 @ Jun 7 2012, 09:54 PM) QUOTE This thread has restored my faith in humanity! There are people in the world (and on this forum): who never drive faster than the posted speed limit, never jay-walk, never make personal phone calls or browse the web at work, got in a football or basketball pool where gambling is illegal, and are just all around better people than me. AS I AM READING THIS.....AT WORK and SHOUTING.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfriar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I for one haven't downloaded it. I bought the fan pack (received on last Tuesday), spent hundreds of Euro's for concert tickets, flights and hotels (one year in advance), I will buy the vinyl and a lot of merch at the concerts... I will pay the prize but I will not count the cost. ...and yes I love this band!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koobie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (kena2112 @ Jun 7 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE This thread has restored my faith in humanity! There are people in the world (and on this forum): who never drive faster than the posted speed limit, never jay-walk, never make personal phone calls or browse the web at work, got in a football or basketball pool where gambling is illegal, and are just all around better people than me. AS I AM READING THIS.....AT WORK Then I am to assume you partook in the leak.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyLeeFender Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Doesnt matter since most of us are buying the CD to support our favorite band, and to see the cover art and the beauty of the beast! I have listened to streams just bc I couldnt help myself...honestly if you asked one of the members this im sure they would NOT care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z437/drbirdsong/ratass.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Jun 7 2012, 02:40 PM) http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z437/drbirdsong/ratass.jpg come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (Tony R @ Jun 7 2012, 02:44 PM) QUOTE (Jaminbenb @ Jun 7 2012, 07:34 PM) I downloaded it on Monday, and my fanpack came today, I don't give a ratzass what anyone thinks! If it's THERE I'm going to go GET IT! Stop judging people already and get a freaking life fer krissake! Hopefully you'll be equally non-judgemental if someone steals your pocket money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (trenken @ Jun 7 2012, 02:41 PM) QUOTE (Just an Escape Artist @ Jun 6 2012, 10:30 PM) Now that someone has taken it upon themselves to leak the new Rush album against the wishes of the band that we all say we love, I wonder how we all feel about ourselves knowing that we are ripping off our favorite band. I see all these threads about how great the album is or "the official whatever" thread, and i am thinking, wait a minute, the album is not out yet. I am sure many of you will rationalze that you will purchase later. Maybe so, but many won't, that is a fact, so the band we love is getting ripped off. We now have about a million threads about the new album that Rush has not released the album yet. Rush did not intend for anyone to hear it until it is released next week. Rush has stated thier distaste for this since VT was leaked, but here we are again pissing on the band the band once again. Does this not bother anyones concience, or do we all just care about ourselves? Just a thought as I wait "Lit up in anticipation" for June 12 Let the flaming begin FYI, the band makes very little money off of album sales. You're really only stealing from the record company, and really, who cares about them? This band doesnt even sell a lot of albums anyway, and didnt for years before the internet even came along. Rush makes their money off of touring, so I dont feel bad for 1 second downloading it. Typical laughable response..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 7 2012, 03:18 PM) QUOTE (kentpilot @ Jun 7 2012, 01:51 PM) So i've been quite the lurker but this thread prompted me to get an account, hello all, My one complaint about rush is their attitude towards leaks and file sharing, Iron Maiden in 2000 were strictly against it and then in 2003 were all for it, they completely recognize it's ability to make sales. I love myself more, there is no one else more important than myself. Friday I'm gonna buy the CD because that's when the record store will get it in, then I'll get my fanpack which I ordered in early May. Then I'll go to the show September 11th and I'll buy a shirt. I don't care if I downloaded it, I paid for it. I downloaded it, and seeded it. I hope someone who isn't a huge rush fan who never planned on buying it downloads it and goes wow this is f***ing good and becomes a bigger fan, buys merch goes to shows and maybe buys the awesome album. That happens quite a bit. Source: I was one of those people. For some, it's more about principle than practicality. I just love these arguments: "I did it because everyone else is doing it" or "I felt nothing wrong in doing it" or "I'm just spreding the awesomeness that is Rush." Rush and their management have in the past specifically asked that you not do this. They have not changed their position. There is a reason why TRF staff did not allow download links to be posted. It couldn't be more clear what the position OUGHT to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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