rushgoober

:( R.I.P. to one of the greats - The Velvet Underground were a very special groundbreaking revolutionary group. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILeTWwfpDI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffr0opfm6I4

OHHHHH, I finally figured out what your problem is. First put down the crack pipe, and THEN listen to the album. :cheers:

hey, jordan! :cheers: the final cut SOUNDS incredible - i mean it's recorded fantastically, but the album is just far too suicidally depressing for me to listen to. the incredible audiophile sound is unfortunately completely wasted on me.

Ah, to be a naive TRF noob. :sigh: :P :cheers:

No I disagree, there are *some* improvements on it and worth the purchase for that. I will agree though that only half the album is likeable. Why Goobs is so insistent that there is *nothing* to like is just plain bananas though, and well he knows it. No, well he does NOT know it.

Mine is a bit different. 1. The Final Cut I'm assuming you're joking about The Final Cut? And Steevo, not even close for me. I know everyone loves to site their super popular 1973-1979 period as their best, and while I agree that all their albums from that period were great (even though The Wall I find way too depressing to listen to these days, and I've felt that way for many years), their early pre-Dark Side album period is still my favorite and is criminally underrated. Yes, Dark Side is arguably their best album, but I go back and forth between that one and The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. This is roughly my Pink Floyd album order: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (fights for #1 position) 3. A Saucerful of Secrets 4. Meddle 5. Ummagumma 6. Atom Heart Mother 7. Animals 8. Wish You Were Here 9. More 10. The Wall 11. Obscured By Clouds 12. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 13. The Division Bell 14. The Final Cut If you add in The Early Singles (compilation of their 1967 & 1968 mostly non-album A & B sides), that would take likely take the #1 spot. Why would I be joking? I don't know... I guess I just thought you were... The Final Cut really isn't even a Pink Floyd album to me. It's much more a solo Roger Waters album, and it's depressing as f*ck. it makes The Wall seem like an feel good romantic comedy in comparison. I guess there are some people out there who think Islands is the best 70's King Crimson album too, so WTF do I know? You know what you know. Nothing more. How very zen of you. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0205/2252/files/buddha-pond_large.jpg?2789

Mine is a bit different. 1. The Final Cut I'm assuming you're joking about The Final Cut? And Steevo, not even close for me. I know everyone loves to site their super popular 1973-1979 period as their best, and while I agree that all their albums from that period were great (even though The Wall I find way too depressing to listen to these days, and I've felt that way for many years), their early pre-Dark Side album period is still my favorite and is criminally underrated. Yes, Dark Side is arguably their best album, but I go back and forth between that one and The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. This is roughly my Pink Floyd album order: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (fights for #1 position) 3. A Saucerful of Secrets 4. Meddle 5. Ummagumma 6. Atom Heart Mother 7. Animals 8. Wish You Were Here 9. More 10. The Wall 11. Obscured By Clouds 12. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 13. The Division Bell 14. The Final Cut If you add in The Early Singles (compilation of their 1967 & 1968 mostly non-album A & B sides), that would take likely take the #1 spot. Why would I be joking? I don't know... I guess I just thought you were... The Final Cut really isn't even a Pink Floyd album to me. It's much more a solo Roger Waters album, and it's depressing as f*ck. it makes The Wall seem like an feel good romantic comedy in comparison. I guess there are some people out there who think Islands is the best 70's King Crimson album too, so WTF do I know?

Very, very true - you simply cannot polish a turd. And I never noticed a drop off in quality unless you consider correctly that the entire album is a drop off in quality, like a drop off a cliff. It's all one giant mush of depressing monotony.

Hear, hear! :cheers: Thats what we want, for you to "Hear, Hear" the damn thing already! Maybe I will if there's a time I'm not feeling good about myself and want to listen to music for 67 minutes. :P

Hear, hear! :cheers:

Better than the VT hell Goober is currently in. :P

Obssessing over an Album? Really GROW UP Obsessing over an Opinion? Really? Well... do whatever you want to do. :P I think i will do just that. I think i will blast Vt remix for the umpteenth time. :rush: Enjoy! :cheers:

Obssessing over an Album? Really GROW UP Obsessing over an Opinion? Really? Well... do whatever you want to do. :P

I kept thinking with all this fantastically obnoxious talk about the VT remix I should really listen to it and see what I think, but after suffering through the 30 second clips and no improvement whatsoever over the original other than it being less physically painful to listen to (clearer sound doesn't magically make bad songs good), I just couldn't do it. I want to, in theory, but when it comes down to it I'm just not that masochistic to put myself through an hour plus of such a horrible album again when there is so much good and great music out there for my ears to spend time with instead. Looking at the Rush board these days with 800 threads about Rush's worst moment in their recorded history (by a very long margin) is pretty disgusting and obnoxious. Likely many feel the same way about my posts on the matter and this thread. it is what it is, but thankfully it's not forever as VT's new 15 minutes will soon be up and people will revert back to talking about their great albums again. And the ironic thing is all this talk is about an album that will at most sell a few thousand copies and be enjoyed only by the most rabid, forgiving and sentimental of their hardcore fan base. With all the mastrubatory VT threads out there, someone needs to be the voice of reason and remember that this album is still a giant steaming POS.

Mine is a bit different. 1. The Final Cut I'm assuming you're joking about The Final Cut? And Steevo, not even close for me. I know everyone loves to site their super popular 1973-1979 period as their best, and while I agree that all their albums from that period were great (even though The Wall I find way too depressing to listen to these days, and I've felt that way for many years), their early pre-Dark Side album period is still my favorite and is criminally underrated. Yes, Dark Side is arguably their best album, but I go back and forth between that one and The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. This is roughly my Pink Floyd album order: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (fights for #1 position) 3. A Saucerful of Secrets 4. Meddle 5. Ummagumma 6. Atom Heart Mother 7. Animals 8. Wish You Were Here 9. More 10. The Wall 11. Obscured By Clouds 12. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 13. The Division Bell 14. The Final Cut If you add in The Early Singles (compilation of their 1967 & 1968 mostly non-album A & B sides), that would take likely take the #1 spot.