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Lol tons of hardcore fans sit in the bowl for the fact that they are better seats than the floor past a certain row. I sit or stand during the show but I rarely move around during songs, I'm there to watch and study these guys play TBH.

So in Denver, Geddy used Shoreline Gold 1966 Fender Jazz for Hemispheres. I'm 90% sure of this. I remember the Fiesta in Tulsa and it was definitely not that in Denver. I'm pretty sure it's 66 Shoreline but I just remembered it was different when reading this thread.

Just to clarify. Steven would only be good at remixing/mastering the audio. He's no video wizard like he is an audio master.

Moon Records was started in 1973 to put out the first album. It got them on Cleveland radio, before Mercury picked them up. Anthem was started in 1977 by Ray Daniels for Rush. http://www.anthementertainmentgroup.com/ Anyway, I agree with you. I'd love to see every tour hit DVD in some official capacity. I need an official Presto, Roll The Bones, Full PoW, Full GUP.

What about Permanent Waves it was released January 1st, 1980 If you say Natural Science is your 2nd least favorite after Tom Sawyer then I know you're just taking the piss. ;) Natural Science is amazing!!! Camera Eye is probably my favorite off of Moving Pictures I love attention too, but try to get it some other way, man... I knew this would be the response I got :( but it's my actual feelings on the subject. If I could only play one song from Rush 80-89 ever again, the last song I would ever play would be Tom Sawyer. Okay what makes Tom Sawyer so amazing? I don't get it, it's a great song but it's definitely the worst song on Moving Pictures, if not of the whole 80's. "What makes Tom Sawyer so amazing"? Pick an aspect. Staying away from the obvious "guitars, drums, bass" answer, lyrically it's one of their most forceful. The aggressiveness of the lyrics perfectly match the aggressiveness of the music. Vocally, Geddy really goes through it all: part of 70's Geddy is still there but at the same time you can see that he's trying to be more melodic with those vocals. For all the praise I give it, it's still not even my favorite (or 2nd favorite) off Moving Pictures. But no way would it come close to the bottom. If you think it's the worst, to each his own. I'm not trying to convince you. Just answering your question. All good points, I guess my arguments to disagree would be this: It's one of Neil's most complicated songs with a really entertaining drum part. The guitar and bass parts on the other hand are one of the simplest Rush have ever written. I'm not arguing that complicated = good. I'm saying the verses are boring, musically. The synth is really weird, I like the background bass pedals but that aggressive lead is cool but also a little cheesy sounding compared to Ged's other stuff. The bass line on this song is SOOOO BORING compared to any of their other singles from this time. The guitar solo though really neat and different just lacks the emotion and journey that Alex can usually make. The lyrics weren't even written by Neil(like Force Ten and Test For Echo which I think are both better than this song). Just edited by him. It just feels off to me, It wasn't the first Rush song I heard so maybe that's why. I think it sounds the least impressive, captivating or what ever. Still a really fun song, just not compared to the other stuff they were putting out IMO. I like that a really weird song became their biggest hit, that's so Rush. At least Tai Shan has a really interesting Bass line, Geddy only gets like 30 seconds to shine on Tom Sawyer. I'm a bass player so maybe that has something to do with it?

What about Permanent Waves it was released January 1st, 1980

I can see that, but more than 50% of the time Rush have been kind of known to close with the slower song? In The End Countdown, Between the Wheels, Mystic Rhythms, Avalilable Light, Everyday Glory, Carve Away the Stone, We Hold On, The Garden It's a theme.

High Water is so good though!!! Can't believe people think it's really that bad.

I love attention too, but try to get it some other way, man... I knew this would be the response I got :( but it's my actual feelings on the subject. If I could only play one song from Rush 80-89 ever again, the last song I would ever play would be Tom Sawyer. Okay what makes Tom Sawyer so amazing? I don't get it, it's a great song but it's definitely the worst song on Moving Pictures, if not of the whole 80's.

I personally hope they extend it to other countries. I feel really bad for those who didn't get to see it overseas. I was sad to only see two shows this tour. Then I remind myself how they must feel. I can wait for the DVD if that's what they want to do. But If we can get another tour I really need one that focuses on Hold Your Fire, Presto and Test For Echo a little bit more before the call it quits.

Loln at Bard right now.

I'm not trying to be edgy or anything and I love this song live. But the last song I put on to listen to alone is Tom Sawyer. I only listen to Tom Sawyer live or through full album listens. It's easily their worst song of the 80's it's just crap compared to anything off Power Windows. Presto also blows it out of the water, every song on there. Tom Sawyer is Rush's worst song of the 80's hands down. But I love synth Rush.

Thank you!

Anybody that knows the future, or whether or not there is one for the band is full of shit. Bard is talking out his ass and others that cling to every little tiny word of Geddy or Alex are doing the same Ah, if only you knew what is known. An interesting perspective is why any fan would advocate for retirement. Think about it. It's not too hard. ;) Tons of people have advocated retirement for the band. For the past ten years on here everyone has been saying after each tour "Time for them to hang it up, the next tour is probably the last" This year doesn't feel that much different to last year. People we're saying they were for sure done after the 2013 leg. I was saying no way, you're an idiot, to those people. Now I'm saying you may be right to you. But that doesn't make you less arrogant or annoying thinking you know something we don't. I'm going to try and be as amazing as you and reach into the minds and harness the feelings of Alex, Geddy and Neil. What I mean by that is I bet if they saw you speaking for them like this they probably would think you're an arrogant jackass. Especially if you knew them personally, that would make it so much worse. But actually my bet is worthless because I have no clue how they would handle it, just like you.

I would absolutely love this!!!! comic sans for dramatic effect.

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank. This still isn't official and can never be official, you understand that right? I am pretty sure you don't work for the band I think it's your friends with someone who does? Even if you do it's still hearsay and that's why it can't be taken to the bank. Because you aren't Rush. Stage 1: Denial Maybe? But if August 1st was Rush's last show, I would not mind. I'm good with it, what a great tour it's been. I am just confused when the only official word is they don't know. Why are people who aren't the band pretending they know? That just seems really disrespectful to me. Really rude towards Geddy, Alex and Neil. When you make guesses about the world and the future you're supposed to use hard fact and the least assumptions. I'm doing that and the hard fact is they haven't said they are done and we don't know. People claiming to know the future without a doubt have already admitted they don't understand it. I think this is a very underrated post. You're absolutely right. Thank you it seems like a lot of people missed the main point I was trying to make. How disrespectful it is to be close to the band and then blab on the internet about their personal feelings and to be sure of what they are feeling without being them. It obviously goes against what they want said since they are saying vague things in interviews. But maybe they don't care that their friend is talking about them on a forum and speaking for them. I would if someone who worked for me did, but maybe they don't care. I don't know how they think or feel about everything. And I don't pretend to know. But everyone replied, you're so selfish for not wanting the band to end. How can people not realize they won't say when they are retiring? Maybe not directly but I think they were arguing points that very few people were making in recent posts.

As someone who saw it live I can assure you he is playing that part.

I am debating on this show. If it's going to be A setlist, I would pass because I've already seen A. It's an 9 hour drive. So I could leave tomorrow morning and make it. I just don't know if I should.... hmm. I'm going to Denver for sure if this is A. Really want to see How It Is.

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right? I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush. You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale. Whether you're right or not is kind of irrelevant to the statements in that post. So when you say they are done, do you mind Rush will never have another album? Also will they never play again as a band again in any capacity? Genuinely curious. What I've said is that Neil will never tour again. So, "Rush" as you know them, are done touring. Who knows if Geddy & Alex will keep on writing or ever produce anything together? IMO, based on the physical toll that years of playing/touring has had on them, and the fact that they've been enjoying their time off more than ever lately, I can't see them doing anything too big or time consuming, if at all. Traveling with family & friends, and finally enjoying a pressure/worry free life sounds like a lot more fun... don't you think? Definitely. Like I've said before I'm fine with them not saying anything about retiring and with them being done in August. I can see where some people are coming from when they say they think it's wrong for them to not tell everyone. But I also see the bands point of view on why they don't want to say it for sure out loud. But I'd like to see another album and as you said time will tell. That's the only certain answer. It's very likely they are done I imagine with the extra info we get not from the band themselves. But I really don't know I'm here for the ride.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Exactly. By the way I think this new thread is kind of silly but you know it's all in good fun.

R40+

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right? I can kind of understand your doubt. You're thinking, how can some schmuck on a public forum know/say things that the band themselves isn't, publicly? I've been around a lot this tour and the mindset backstage is one of finality. Geddy & Alex won't come right out and say it (I don't think it's their nature), but everyone knows that this is the end. The Emperor Peart has made it clear that after this tour, he's tapping out for good. And let's face it, without Neil, there is no Rush. You don't know me so, it's cool if you have your doubts. Time will tell the tale. Whether you're right or not is kind of irrelevant to the statements in that post. So when you say they are done, do you mind Rush will never have another album? Also will they never play again as a band again in any capacity? Genuinely curious.

Why wouldn't you post this in the non Rush section of the forum specifically designed for stuff like this?

Well I think it was Geddy who said he doesn't want to announce a farewell, so I'm not expecting them too. So why are people on here like FOH Lights, who is supposedly "close to the band", not honoring those specific wishes. Rush want to keep it up in the air for a reason. It's so dumb that anyone can be like: "here's what they are going to do and there is no other way it can go" You just look like an idiot at the point, right?

If you knew what has been happening "behind the scenes", you'd have a very different take on it. This IS the end. Neil will NEVER tour again. Take that to the bank. This still isn't official and can never be official, you understand that right? I am pretty sure you don't work for the band I think it's your friends with someone who does? Even if you do it's still hearsay and that's why it can't be taken to the bank. Because you aren't Rush. Stage 1: Denial Maybe? But if August 1st was Rush's last show, I would not mind. I'm good with it, what a great tour it's been. I am just confused when the only official word is they don't know. Why are people who aren't the band pretending they know? That just seems really disrespectful to me. Really rude towards Geddy, Alex and Neil. When you make guesses about the world and the future you're supposed to use hard fact and the least assumptions. I'm doing that and the hard fact is they haven't said they are done and we don't know. People claiming to know the future without a doubt have already admitted they don't understand it.