Zanadoo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Such an underrated song on an underrated album. Lyrics are incredible along with beautiful drum and rhythm guitar work. The mirror always lies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pags Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 KILLER song!! One of the best from an incredible album. My favorite thing about this song are Neil's fills during the 1st and 2nd verse. His fills are really high on the toms when describing the girl during the 1st verse, coinciding with the daintiness of the girl. Then low and hard on the toms during the 2nd verse... tough and strong like the boy. Brilliance. That's all I can say. Sheer, unadulterated brilliance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reani14 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 liked the soundboards from the 90 tour.. played it for a few people and they said it blows. oh well maybe they can go back to listening to thier miley cyrus stolen illegal downloads.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I think they lyrics are pretty terrible. The concepts presented are worthwhile, but it's such a heavy-handed goofy delivery getting them across. Here's the part where I was going to quote selected lyrics to illustrate my point, but really it's the whole song. It might not be as bad as "season of the itch" and "chasing cars in doggie heaven," but "boys and girls together" and "let's paint the mirror black" is pretty up there among the badness level of "net boy net girl" and "put your message in a modem and throw it in the cyber sea." Oh well, I picked out some individual lyrics after all. This is so often why the whole era from Presto onwards can be so weak, obviously with notable exceptions, especially on Counterparts and Snakes & Arrows. The lyrics just too often don't cut it, and the music can't overcome this deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndseyG Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Love this song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandDesigner Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 One of my least favorites on Presto, along with Scars and Superconductor. Figures they would be 3 of the 5 songs they actually played live on that tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I like War Paint well enough. Rating Presto on the whole... 1. Presto 2. Available Light 3. Hand Over Fist 4. The Pass 5. Show Don't Tell 6. Anagram 7. War Paint 8. Red Tide 9. Chain Lightning 10. Scars 11. Superconductor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Money Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 It's amazing how many people think this song is underrated yet I've seen at least twenty threads about this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 It's a great song, but it's not exactly the best on the album for the reason rushgoober mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWriter Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Okay, I love this song... ...up until about 4:24, and then I'm like "oh my god this is SO CHEESY just stop, please stop". Which is really too bad. I adore the beginning. IMO it's just about flawless, if not the greatest song in the universe. But those last sixty seconds, maybe even less..? I sometimes hit the next button then just 'cause I can't stand it. Only part of Presto I truly dislike. Edited October 30, 2011 by CMWriter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2011, 01:15 PM) I think they lyrics are pretty terrible. The concepts presented are worthwhile, but it's such a heavy-handed goofy delivery getting them across. Here's the part where I was going to quote selected lyrics to illustrate my point, but really it's the whole song. It might not be as bad as "season of the itch" and "chasing cars in doggie heaven," but "boys and girls together" and "let's paint the mirror black" is pretty up there among the badness level of "net boy net girl" and "put your message in a modem and throw it in the cyber sea." Oh well, I picked out some individual lyrics after all. This is so often why the whole era from Presto onwards can be so weak, obviously with notable exceptions, especially on Counterparts and Snakes & Arrows. The lyrics just too often don't cut it, and the music can't overcome this deficit. Presto contains some of Neils strongest lyrics. This is perfectly evident in the ease with wich Geddy is able to write such good melodies around them, versus the awkward, shoehorned lyrics of, say, HYF. The lyrics are certainly no less chessy then much of their older material, unless you consider songs about 100100-1-SOS, or snowdogs or fast breaks on honey-doo to be literary masterpeices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (eshine @ Oct 30 2011, 02:04 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2011, 01:15 PM) I think they lyrics are pretty terrible. The concepts presented are worthwhile, but it's such a heavy-handed goofy delivery getting them across. Here's the part where I was going to quote selected lyrics to illustrate my point, but really it's the whole song. It might not be as bad as "season of the itch" and "chasing cars in doggie heaven," but "boys and girls together" and "let's paint the mirror black" is pretty up there among the badness level of "net boy net girl" and "put your message in a modem and throw it in the cyber sea." Oh well, I picked out some individual lyrics after all. This is so often why the whole era from Presto onwards can be so weak, obviously with notable exceptions, especially on Counterparts and Snakes & Arrows. The lyrics just too often don't cut it, and the music can't overcome this deficit. Presto contains some of Neils strongest lyrics. This is perfectly evident in the ease with wich Geddy is able to write such good melodies around them, versus the awkward, shoehorned lyrics of, say, HYF. The lyrics are certainly no less chessy then much of their older material, unless you consider songs about 100100-1-SOS, or snowdogs or fast breaks on honey-doo to be literary masterpeices See, now I think the lyrics on HYF are GREAT (the last two songs being notable exceptions). It's Presto where the lyrical quality really took a nosedive. In general, with the exceptions of The Pass and Chain Lightning, I find it to be a very mediocre album, and the problem, unfortunately, is the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Oct 30 2011, 01:15 PM)I think they lyrics are pretty terrible. The concepts presented are worthwhile, but it's such a heavy-handed goofy delivery getting them across. A perfect example of how music impacts us all in different ways, I love the song and the message it delivers and don't find it to be cheesy at all. All opinions are respected when it comes to music, it's such a personal thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think it is a decent song, definitely very rocking. Presto is such an underrated album, and I think that War Paint suffers from the other songs on the album being so good. It is sandwiched between The Pass and Scars which are like the greatest songs ever so... yeah. And just for good measure I may as well rate the songs on Presto: Deserve to be worshiped The Pass Red Tide Scars Presto Show Don't Tell Deserve slightly smaller shrines than the songs above Hand Over Fist Available Light War Paint Chain Lightning Sort of like a high school wanna-be Superconductor I LOVE THIS SONG!!!! (sarcasm hand raised) Anagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Edited October 31, 2011 by rushgoober Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadoo Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think what really makes the song for me is the vocal arrangement. It's what separates Presto from any other album, beautifully constructed vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Good song. There's some more off Presto I like better but I would never turn away an oppoutunity to listen to War Paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshine Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (Zanadoo @ Oct 31 2011, 09:13 AM) I think what really makes the song for me is the vocal arrangement. It's what separates Presto from any other album, beautifully constructed vocals. THIS! Rupert Hine may not have given Rush an edgy, hard rock sound - but he was instrumental in teaching Geddy how to use his voice. Presto is Geddy's tour-de-force. The simplicity of the lyrics are of benefit as well. I find the lyrics charming and uplifting without being overtly "cheesy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micgtr71 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think that this was one of the better sounding Presto songs played on this tour. When I heard it live I gained a new appreciation for it. This album recently has become one of my favorite listens. Superconductor really should have been left off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritofme Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Brilliant Presto is an album I never really gave a look at though, will have to revisit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowItIs Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 QUOTE (CMWriter @ Oct 30 2011, 01:54 PM) Okay, I love this song... ...up until about 4:24, and then I'm like "oh my god this is SO CHEESY just stop, please stop". Which is really too bad. I adore the beginning. IMO it's just about flawless, if not the greatest song in the universe. But those last sixty seconds, maybe even less..? I sometimes hit the next button then just 'cause I can't stand it. Only part of Presto I truly dislike. My least favorite song on the album. But, since I love this album to bits, that's still pretty good. I love the concept - the mirror always lies - but the lyrics are bordering on the trite and cheesy. Well, we all have our off days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of the 7 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 IMO, the lyrics are great at bringing to life the situations he's talking about. I feel like they're real people. And I for one love the "girls and boys together" and "the mirror always lies" and "paint the mirror black" fade-out of the chorus - I get really into singing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 This thread has me thinking about songs I love that have lyrics that arent so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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