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#61 Tony R

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:58 PM

View PostTick, on 02 March 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

Another glass half empty thread. I will NOT make a list of 5 bad Rush songs because I'd rather revere Rush for how AWESOME they are! And the fact some songs are weaker than others is positive in the respect that Rush always creates something different. That's why they are so awesome! So continue on with this stupid thread if you must.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:31 PM

View PostTony R, on 03 March 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

Face Up
Bravest Face
We Hold On
Good News First
Virtuality

Hard yo argue with this...

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:00 PM

1. Dog Years
2. Superconductor
3. Face Up
4.  Virtuality
5. Witch Hunt(just to be a dick, lol.  though i do legit dislike this song)

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:02 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 March 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

1. Dog Years
2. Superconductor
3. Face Up
4.  Virtuality
5. Witch Hunt(just to be a dick, lol.  though i do legit dislike this song)

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I have always really liked it.  It’s the best song on side 2 IMO.  But it gets a lot of hate for some reason.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:55 PM

lol these lists a round-up of all the rush tracks i hated with a passion at first but eventually became some of my favs; Dog Years, Good News First, Face up, Heresy, Tai Shan love em all now. only real Rush sub standard work on CA for me, half the album utterly brilliant the other a bit of a yawnfest

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 07:55 PM

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View PostAlien Girl, on 22 February 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

The worst to me, and in my opinion, off albums I listen to regularly...

The Mission (blah, the intro makes me cringe)
Bravest Face
We hold on
Good News First
Middletown Dreams
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I don't care if the rest of you lot love them, I don't care if they speak to you, I don't care if they strike a chord.  I don't care, I don't like 'em.
Middletown Dreams???  WTF!!!  That's TOP TEN Rush for me...
She hates the lyrics, especially "Dreams flow across the heartland..."
The lyrics are among my favorite in any song by anyone!
While I am thrilled my post elicited such an impassioned reaction, the thread title did have the disclaimer 'In your opinion' and yes, in my opinion that is a horribly trite, just entirely stupid line.

And please direct your attention to the last line of that post.  "I don't care if the rest of you lot love them, I don't care if they speak to you, I don't care if they strike a chord.  I don't care, I don't like 'em"

to reiterate...

...I STILL DON'T CARE, I do not care...no me importa...je m'en fous...I am the opposite of caring on this matter.  Be offended.  Scoff away...i just cannot seem to give a damn.  Nope, not a care was had.

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Alien Girl, you know what means, right? It’s time for this:

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:15 PM

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The worst to me, and in my opinion, off albums I listen to regularly...

The Mission (blah, the intro makes me cringe)
Bravest Face
We hold on
Good News First
Middletown Dreams
Emotion Detector

I don't care if the rest of you lot love them, I don't care if they speak to you, I don't care if they strike a chord.  I don't care, I don't like 'em.
Middletown Dreams???  WTF!!!  That's TOP TEN Rush for me...
She hates the lyrics, especially "Dreams flow across the heartland..."
The lyrics are among my favorite in any song by anyone!

The 80s are easily Peart’s best decade for lyrics imho
Some of the 80s...like the earlier part.

The early 80s are still the 80s.

I can’t think of too many good 90s lyrics other than Bravado and Ghost of a Chance. And in this century I’m only coming up with Ghost Rider and Vapor Trail.

With the 80s I can pick stuff from every album there.

Fine.  yes.  You have a point.  And I probably have more positive things to say on the lyrics beyond that...but the thing I really hate about the lyrics from the last few albums are the way they're shoehorned into the song.  It used to be that the lyrics and the music meshed beautifully and then around the time Vapor Trails came out, the lyrics and music no longer fit together quite so well.   S&A and CA were especially egregious in this.  Run on sentences, bad cadence,  just oddly fit wording.  So while the lyrics themselves aren't bad per se, the way they fit in the songs was horrible.  Think Good News First, Armor and Sword, The Wreckers, etc.  Like even though the three members of Rush could still play well together, they no longer create well together...or at least not as seamlessly as they could in the 70s and 80s.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:31 PM

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View PostAlien Girl, on 22 February 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

The worst to me, and in my opinion, off albums I listen to regularly...

The Mission (blah, the intro makes me cringe)
Bravest Face
We hold on
Good News First
Middletown Dreams
Emotion Detector

I don't care if the rest of you lot love them, I don't care if they speak to you, I don't care if they strike a chord.  I don't care, I don't like 'em.
Middletown Dreams???  WTF!!!  That's TOP TEN Rush for me...
She hates the lyrics, especially "Dreams flow across the heartland..."
The lyrics are among my favorite in any song by anyone!

The 80s are easily Peart’s best decade for lyrics imho
Some of the 80s...like the earlier part.

The early 80s are still the 80s.

I can’t think of too many good 90s lyrics other than Bravado and Ghost of a Chance. And in this century I’m only coming up with Ghost Rider and Vapor Trail.

With the 80s I can pick stuff from every album there.

Fine.  yes.  You have a point.  And I probably have more positive things to say on the lyrics beyond that...but the thing I really hate about the lyrics from the last few albums are the way they're shoehorned into the song.  It used to be that the lyrics and the music meshed beautifully and then around the time Vapor Trails came out, the lyrics and music no longer fit together quite so well.   S&A and CA were especially egregious in this.  Run on sentences, bad cadence,  just oddly fit wording.  So while the lyrics themselves aren't bad per se, the way they fit in the songs was horrible.  Think Good News First, Armor and Sword, The Wreckers, etc.  Like even though the three members of Rush could still play well together, they no longer create well together...or at least not as seamlessly as they could in the 70s and 80s.

I’m with you on the Snakes and Angels shoehorning.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:02 PM

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View PostTick, on 02 March 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

Another glass half empty thread. I will NOT make a list of 5 bad Rush songs because I'd rather revere Rush for how AWESOME they are! And the fact some songs are weaker than others is positive in the respect that Rush always creates something different. That's why they are so awesome! So continue on with this stupid thread if you must.

Tick as a brick.

Including (or is that especially?) that stupid f**king flute.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 03:18 AM

Face Up
Wish Them Well
Tai Shan
We Hold On
Dog Years

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:07 AM

Eh, criticism is fun to write, besides, there's so much amazing Rush stuff that it's actually kind of interesting to take a closer look at the times when they just lost the plot. I'll bite.

5. Leave That Thing Alone - someone said lazy earlier, and while I think that's not quite right, it isn't far off. This is easily the most boring instrumental in the Rush catalogue. I mean, I can tell they put effort into it, Ged's got a neat little bass part or two that many praise, but on the whole, the song is missing a strong hook, or centerpiece, or awesome breakdown, or literally anything to keep it from coming off as elevator music. If Ged had just sung on this one it could've been so much better, but instead it's just a lame jam that would be satisfying to hear live, but just eats up time on an already overlong album as a studio cut.

4. You Bet Your Life - I'll say it again, but you'll see it here first. The album this comes from is basically Rush's take on Huey Lewis and The News, but without any kind of punch in the production, no matter how hard the band tries. Now on it's own, this misfire of style and sonics isn't the worst thing in the world, even though it's a lot of the reason RTB is my least favorite Rush album, but on this track, they pair those two mistakes with yet another blatant issue: annoyance. The hook of this song gets on my nerves. I didn't know what to make of it at first, thought I might kind of get used to it and like it. It's certainly catchy enough. But they just keep going over and over and over with more meaningless "ist" words and after hearing it a few times I'd lost all my appetite for this track. There could have been a decent song here, maybe, but that hook just kills it.

3. The Speed Of Love - And here we have the strange case where Rush are actually even more boring than on Leave That Thing Alone. Even adding a vocal couldn't save this cut. The chorus is pretty weak, and any catchiness it has might actually only stem from the number of times they repeat it...kind of lazily I might add (yeah, I'll go there on this song). There's barely anything mildly interesting going on in the instrumentals (but this is Rush!?), the production isn't as strong as the rest of CP, and...oh yeah, the lyrics. Neil had a long period of strong lyricism, and though we all know some (or much) of it took a turn for the worse around the 80s/90s line, this is possibly some his worst work. It's not even notably for being cringey or outdated like Virtuality or Dog Years, it's not even something that's simply over preachy (like most of SnA). Neil tries to write a love song of sorts and...it's just dull. It's like he read a book on "love" and tried to describe what it is as logically as possible and how (in his opinion) its always moving and changing. This sort of approach has worked fine in other songs of his, but those songs weren't about love. You can't take a scientific and logical approach to love if your going to write a poem or a song about it. It needs to feel real and heartfelt, and it should read like it's coming from another human being, not like it's coming from a mashup of watered down buddhism and a science textbook. TBF, I don't hate this song, honestly most days I'd prefer to hear it over the two I put before it, but if I'm having to force myself to try to relate to the lyrics of a love song as an overly romantic teenager...there's been a major failure on the song's part.

2. Neurotica - So again, coming from RTB, it's got no guts, and no style. The only saving grace it could hope for is songwriting or outstanding performance. Rush normally have great performances, but on this album, they need to be just extra-spectacular to catch my ear. And Rush are normally fine songwriters, especially in the two decades they just left. Sadly, this song has neither of those. Nary an instrumental that just speaks to me, and songwriting that just fails to interest me in the slightest. Peart seems to be having to much fun rhyming things again (what's up with these lyrical games he's playing? Red Lenses? Anagram? Hand Over Fist? now this?? I'm nt even sure some of these are real words...), so it's up to Ged and Alex to write interesting music and melodies...and sadly they fail. Ged is playing around with how many times he can overdub his voice before it becomes unbearable (see You Bet Your Life), and Al doesn't really seem to have noticed the 80s are over and he can come out of the shadows now. Plus the hook is weak, the verses are dull, the riff doesn't have any power, the bridge (which is mildly interesting) isn't even finished before Al jumps in to try to feed some life back into the song with a guitar solo that might've been memorable if it had been twice as long and in a better song, Peart tries to do the same multiple times throughout the song with energetic fills that make it even more obvious this song is on life support, and it doesn't even care to end in an interesting way.

1. Heresy - in addition to being completely ball-less and watered down Huey Lewis material like much of the rest of the album, this one has the gall to not even have a half-way decent chorus or hook that I'm even marginally tempted to sing along to. "all those precious wasted years?" BLECH This is one of the only times in music where I just cringe so hard that the feeling actually bears the faintest resemblance to nausea. Oh, and that "c***" line? Was that supposed to make me feel like I could just relate so hard to this song?Because it just came off as unnecessary. Yeah, least favorite Rush song of all time. Compared to my least favorite Queen song (Coming Soon) and my least favorite Muse song (Follow Me), this one takes the cake for being my least favorite song made by one of my three favorite bands. Heresy? Yep, they said it.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:22 AM

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View Postedhunter, on 22 February 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

This thread is not fair. There are 11 equally,utterly, totally, completely, entirely shitty songs on Test For Echo. 6 of them shouldn't be let off the hook because you only want 5!

Working Man

Fly By Night

Closer To The Heart (studio version only...kicks ass live)

Limelight


:eh:  are these four not almost universally considered among the band's most noteworthy and beloved works? Like...CTTH is in my top ten, and the other three aren't far behind at all...

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 07:13 AM

Nobodys Hero

Nobodys Hero

Nobodys Hero

Nobodys Hero

Nobodys Hero



Now I do know that there are plenty of stinkers to choose from, but that "song" is so teethsuckingly, cringworthy, buttock-clenchingly bad that it deserved multiple mentions.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:08 PM

View Postvaportrailer, on 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM, said:

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



When I say stupid f**king flute...I don't mean the flute as an instrument, in general.  I mean the stupid f**king flute in Jethro Tull specifically.    Although that there is, admittedly, some stupid f**king flute.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 08:21 PM

This was a hard one, first I had to eliminate the Ying and Yang albums; Counterparts and Test for Echo, both of which I find little to rave about. So as some people have done referred to albums I would listen to, most of the clunkers come from the later synth albums where Neil's lyrics focussed on personal type issues. So my 5 are;
1.Second Nature
2. High Water
3.Neurotica
4. Open Secrets
5. Out of the Cradle

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostAlien Girl, on 04 March 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM, said:

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



When I say stupid f**king flute...I don't mean the flute as an instrument, in general.  I mean the stupid f**king flute in Jethro Tull specifically.    Although that there is, admittedly, some stupid f**king flute.

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 04:08 AM

View PostAlien Girl, on 04 March 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM, said:

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



When I say stupid f**king flute...I don't mean the flute as an instrument, in general.  I mean the stupid f**king flute in Jethro Tull specifically.    Although that there is, admittedly, some stupid f**king flute.

Most western flute is stupid f**king flute.
And piccolos (piccoli?) are even worse.
“What’s that awful needle doing driving itself into my ear? Oh, it’s a piccolo! What fun for all!”

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:38 AM

View Postvaportrailer, on 05 March 2018 - 04:08 AM, said:

View PostAlien Girl, on 04 March 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM, said:

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



When I say stupid f**king flute...I don't mean the flute as an instrument, in general.  I mean the stupid f**king flute in Jethro Tull specifically. Although that there is, admittedly, some stupid f**king flute.

Most western flute is stupid f**king flute.
And piccolos (piccoli?) are even worse.
“What’s that awful needle doing driving itself into my ear? Oh, it’s a piccolo! What fun for all!”

What self-respecting flute (ok, piccolo) player one day says to himself/herself "you know what would be cool, if I combined this w/ jazz"  or in the case of Jethro Tull (which btw, w/out the stupid f**king flute, I think is a pretty cool sounding band) 'Rock'.  Yeah, that'd be cool...said no one, ever.  :poke:  Some instruments just don't mesh well w/ certain genres.

Hmmm...this is a tangent wrapped up in an off-ramp...

Now we return you to your regular programmed thread...worst Rush songs...Tai Shan, Shakuhaachi flute...good idea or WTF?!  This isn't RUSH!!!  China sang to me?!  WTF is that?!  NEIL!  GET THE f**k OFF!!

Edited by Alien Girl, 05 March 2018 - 10:39 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:49 PM

View PostAlien Girl, on 05 March 2018 - 10:38 AM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 05 March 2018 - 04:08 AM, said:

View PostAlien Girl, on 04 March 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 04 March 2018 - 02:38 AM, said:

Did someone say “stupid f**king flute”?



When I say stupid f**king flute...I don't mean the flute as an instrument, in general.  I mean the stupid f**king flute in Jethro Tull specifically.    Although that there is, admittedly, some stupid f**king flute.

Most western flute is stupid f**king flute.
And piccolos (piccoli?) are even worse.
“What’s that awful needle doing driving itself into my ear? Oh, it’s a piccolo! What fun for all!”

What self-respecting flute (ok, piccolo) player one day says to himself/herself "you know what would be cool, if I combined this w/ jazz"  or in the case of Jethro Tull (which btw, w/out the stupid f**king flute, I think is a pretty cool sounding band) 'Rock'.  Yeah, that'd be cool...said no one, ever.  :poke:  Some instruments just don't mesh well w/ certain genres.


Ian Anderson on why the flute...(don’t worry, there is NO flute playing in this)



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