Rush- Metal or not?

[Digital Dad]

We are attempting to define bands and styles that are amalgams of earlier generations, and while eventually any genre will become clichéd and basically a parody of what once was, the trailblazers are the most difficult to pigeonhole because of just that" they were trailblazers and not following the "set rules" laid down by earlier bands ..

 

YES is progressive, in my mind, because Steve Howe brought bluegrass and country chops into the songs, Rick Wakeman did the incredible by being futuristic while retaining a true sense of classical, Chris Squire carried a bigger bottom than Jennifer Lopez, Jon Anderson brought an angelic and very emotional edge to the vibe, and Bill Bruford was about as natural and comfortable with timing and jazz chops as you will find .... Love Alan White too by the way ..

 

Ladies and gentlemen, YES

 

So then you;ve got bands that grew up listening to YES, taking everything from YES and nothing from what influenced YES, all the while thinking "We'll be prog"

 

So will the real prog band please stand up

 

What is a band?

[Digital Dad]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

 

I concur x1000.

Same.

 

Though I'm mainly smiling because of "revisionist douchebag". :)

 

so is it better to be a revisionist douchebag or a blind adoring fanboy?

[Lucas]

We are attempting to define bands and styles that are amalgams of earlier generations, and while eventually any genre will become clichéd and basically a parody of what once was, the trailblazers are the most difficult to pigeonhole because of just that" they were trailblazers and not following the "set rules" laid down by earlier bands ..

 

YES is progressive, in my mind, because Steve Howe brought bluegrass and country chops into the songs, Rick Wakeman did the incredible by being futuristic while retaining a true sense of classical, Chris Squire carried a bigger bottom than Jennifer Lopez, Jon Anderson brought an angelic and very emotional edge to the vibe, and Bill Bruford was about as natural and comfortable with timing and jazz chops as you will find .... Love Alan White too by the way ..

 

Ladies and gentlemen, YES

 

So then you;ve got bands that grew up listening to YES, taking everything from YES and nothing from what influenced YES, all the while thinking "We'll be prog"

 

So will the real prog band please stand up

 

What is a band?

 

THIS

 

http://www.epicrights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/KS75-1110rpp.jpg

[Lucas]

:zzz:

 

lol

 

 

[JohnnyBlaze]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

 

I concur x1000.

Same.

 

Though I'm mainly smiling because of "revisionist douchebag". :)

 

so is it better to be a revisionist douchebag or a blind adoring fanboy?

Well, one is clueless and the other is dickless.

[JohnRogers]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

 

I concur x1000.

I concur X1,000,000. Because I'm better than you.

[Digital Dad]

We are attempting to define bands and styles that are amalgams of earlier generations, and while eventually any genre will become clichéd and basically a parody of what once was, the trailblazers are the most difficult to pigeonhole because of just that" they were trailblazers and not following the "set rules" laid down by earlier bands ..

 

YES is progressive, in my mind, because Steve Howe brought bluegrass and country chops into the songs, Rick Wakeman did the incredible by being futuristic while retaining a true sense of classical, Chris Squire carried a bigger bottom than Jennifer Lopez, Jon Anderson brought an angelic and very emotional edge to the vibe, and Bill Bruford was about as natural and comfortable with timing and jazz chops as you will find .... Love Alan White too by the way ..

 

Ladies and gentlemen, YES

 

So then you;ve got bands that grew up listening to YES, taking everything from YES and nothing from what influenced YES, all the while thinking "We'll be prog"

 

So will the real prog band please stand up

 

What is a band?

 

THIS

 

http://www.epicrights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/KS75-1110rpp.jpg

 

Maybe that WAS a band but they haven't played together since the late 70's.

[Segue Myles]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

 

I concur x1000.

Same.

 

Though I'm mainly smiling because of "revisionist douchebag". :)

 

Same haha!

 

But he is right. It is easy to look at any primitive forms of established music styles and pick holes in their authenticity. But Rush have too strong a hold on the origins of metal and the development of it, and personally I hear a lot of metallic elements, especially from Alex's playing and the often heavy by any era"s standards live shows from the day.

[JohnRogers]

I'm going to play heavy metal :rush: tonight while cleaning up the cigar lounge after I close. Edited April 7, 2016 by JohnRogers

[Ancient Ways]

Rush isn't metal but if you want to believe they are I fully support you in your beliefs. Enjoy!

[Wil1972]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

[JohnRogers]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

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[Wil1972]

Ahhh okay JohnRogers, thanks for the clarification. :-)

[JohnRogers]

Ahhh okay JohnRogers, thanks for the clarification. :-)

Always here to help bro! ;)

[GabesCavesOfIce]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

For opinions to be valid at TRF they must conform with those of long time members with high post counts. Rookie.

 

High as in state of mind when counting the posts?

 

Listening to minute four of necromancer earlier thinking....to most of the ppl I am around most of the day, ya this is mos def metal...

 

For the ppl of the sun.

[Tony R]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

Tony, why don't you post that picture of you taken in the Church of TonyR? You know, the one you used for an avatar a while back?

 

 

 

http://s29.postimg.org/agy906yx3/image.jpg

[Tony R]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

For opinions to be valid at TRF they must conform with those of long time members with high post counts. Rookie.

 

Clearly Rush's music is not the epitome of progressive music, that's just plain daft.

 

 

[Lorraine]

Anyone who doesn't think that Rush are heavy metal (with a touch of Heavy Prog) is a revisionist douchebag.

 

You cannot rewrite history. Heavy Metal as a term dates back to the early 70s, whether metal is something different now is irrelevant. Why do you think Iron Maiden were termed "new wave of British Heavy Metal"? They could only be a "new wave" if something had gone before.

 

Jeez.

 

Amen brother!

Tony, why don't you post that picture of you taken in the Church of TonyR? You know, the one you used for an avatar a while back?

 

 

http://s29.postimg.org/agy906yx3/image.jpg

 

 

A picture says a thousand words!

 

In the future, this is how we will resolve any and all Rush disputes.

[Lorraine]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

For opinions to be valid at TRF they must conform with those of long time members with high post counts. Rookie.

Quite right, John Rogers. If not, you're :smash: into submission. If that fails, Mick has a serum that works.

[Wil1972]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

For opinions to be valid at TRF they must conform with those of long time members with high post counts. Rookie.

 

Clearly Rush's music is not the epitome of progressive music, that's just plain daft.

 

To each his own. :-)

[Wil1972]

Tony R - I don't feel I am a blinded fan boy. I just feel Rush embody the definition of being progressive in a way that other bands are not. As I said, that's my personal view and personal definition, and distinct from the more popular usage of the word. But to each his own. :-)

For opinions to be valid at TRF they must conform with those of long time members with high post counts. Rookie.

Quite right, John Rogers. If not, you're :smash: into submission. If that fails, Mick has a serum that works.

 

I guess I need my dose of :smash: . :D

[EagleMoon]

You know when a thread devolves into name calling and personal attacks about opinions it's time to hang it up.

[JohnnyBlaze]

You know when a thread devolves into name calling and personal attacks about opinions it's time to hang it up.

Well, this thread was doomed regardless of how sincere the question was.

[JohnRogers]

Well I learned that the Heavy Metal I grew up listening to is now Light Weight Aluminum like what is used on the Ford F-150.

[Rod in Toronto]

Rush may be metal..but to a metal, they´re no metal.