Todem Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Nothing to do with the material, but right up to Different Stages, or maybe Rush in Rio, Rush live albums were something special, something you waited for and cherished when it came out. Each one representing an era, and quite different from each other. Nowadays there are so many that I've almost lost track. Who is able to differentiate the version of TSOR in S&A Live from Time Machine from CA Live? I have to agree with this. While I like some of the post DS live recordings.....I loved that Rush had the 4 albums then a live album pattern going. A time capsule of each cycle. But hey.....they have to make a living. And having each tour since the rebirth (VT) has been cool. I like that I have those albums after T4E's tunes live.....and I love set one of the S&A Tour & CA tour....BIG TIME. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Avatar Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Nothing to do with the material, but right up to Different Stages, or maybe Rush in Rio, Rush live albums were something special, something you waited for and cherished when it came out. Each one representing an era, and quite different from each other. Nowadays there are so many that I've almost lost track. Who is able to differentiate the version of TSOR in S&A Live from Time Machine from CA Live? I have to agree with this. While I like some of the post DS live recordings.....I loved that Rush had the 4 albums then a live album pattern going. A time capsule of each cycle. But hey.....they have to make a living. And having each tour since the rebirth (VT) has been cool. I like that I have those albums after T4E's tunes live.....and I love set one of the S&A Tour & CA tour....BIG TIME. If they have to make a living, and if they have the entire Test for Echo tour recorded somewhere, I wish they'd put it out on Blu Ray. I would definitely pick that up, as would pretty much everyone on this forum. More money for them, and the first "Evening with Rush" for us...plus all of 2112! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The only way i can hear Neil's drums on CA live is with my headphones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 One of the positive things about CA Live is that the sawtooth synth sound for Subdivisions is the best it's been since the Signals tour, it actually sounded like an old-school Oberheim synthesizer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I agree totally about the mix/mastering/engineering of the last few albums: wall of sound is a very apt description. If CA sounded like, say, AFTK...that'd be fantastic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 One of the positive things about CA Live is that the sawtooth synth sound for Subdivisions is the best it's been since the Signals tour, it actually sounded like an old-school Oberheim synthesizer.yeah it sounds just like when i play it on my wife's casio :eyeroll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I thought S&A Live sounded pretty good 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) CA Tour makes TM: 2011 sound pretty good and the only problem I had with that one was that Neil's kit was a bit too low in the mix...particularly the snare. Oh and also Geddy's yodeling particularly in the second half (but he was sick that day so whatcanyado?). Edited May 18, 2015 by PolarizeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I was watching the CA Live Blu Ray disc today and could only make it through the first six songs or so before I needed to turn it off due to ear fatigue. I don't know what the culprit is, be it post-concert mixing or simply the way their instruments sound live nowadays, but it's like a cacophony of sound, without much instrument separation, IMO. I can barely discern Geddy's bass, and Neil's drums sound pretty bad, too, IMO. I think this plagues CA studio album to a degree as well. It's especially noticeable since I've been listening to a lot of early material, like Caress of Steel and A Farewell to Kings, where each instrument is crystal clear, and you can hear every one of Neil's ghost notes, etc. I'd love to see them return to that kind of instrument separation, simply so I can enjoy listening to their newest stuff. I think CA has some great songs on it. I just wish I didn't get so damn tired listening to it! "VAPOR TRAILS LIVE!!!" The production is shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) As for CA production Nick should be FIRED! JMO Nick has become very famous. Good for him. Sadly for my ears he is certainly overrated. I like the S&A production. That's about it. Edited May 18, 2015 by RUSHHEAD666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 As for CA production Nick should be FIRED! JMO Nick has become very famous. Good for him. Sadly for my ears he is certainly overrated. I like the S&A production. That's about it. S&A's sounds good, even though like Alex said, he added too much acoustic guitar to the tracks. They could have made it a little less dense, but it does sound good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 As for CA production Nick should be FIRED! JMO Nick has become very famous. Good for him. Sadly for my ears he is certainly overrated. I like the S&A production. That's about it. S&A's sounds good, even though like Alex said, he added too much acoustic guitar to the tracks. They could have made it a little less dense, but it does sound good. Yep! I agree! I love "We Hold On." A perfect song to end the album. Sounds great! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Snakes and CA both sound good to me. I have no problem with the production on either album. Snakes gets the overalL edge though. I love how that album sounds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I even like CA but the sound is terrible on the recent live recordings, very hard to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavesandWindows Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Who is able to differentiate the version of TSOR in S&A Live from Time Machine from CA Live? I can. I know it was a rhetorical question, but I can tell you that there's a difference in the reggae section on all three. Geddy puts on some sort of accent in S&A Live, on CA Tour, He slightly changes the notes in the "for the words of the prophets..." line. Time Machine is probably the closest to the studio version as he just sings it normally without a note or accent change. And I agree with the rest of your comment, though I am happy that they do release the DVD/CD from each tour as I can't go to the shows. Having the DVD, fatigue or no, helps for me as I just want to see the best band in the world, which will sadly never be a dream fulfilled thanks to them pretty much retiring after R40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Barchetta Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Wait! What? Rush made an album or more after "Signals?" Someone give me details! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 As for CA production Nick should be FIRED! JMO Nick has become very famous. Good for him. Sadly for my ears he is certainly overrated. I like the S&A production. That's about it.Clockwork Angels sounds the way it does because the band WANTED it to sound that way. Nick did what THEY wanted. It's one of the most unique sounding records they've made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Barchetta Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 So they wanted it to sound like a bunch of jumbled noise that you almost have to have an engineering degree in to set your audio system to where it's listenable? Interesting. Why do you think they would do such a thing? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbine Freight Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Clockwork Angels sounds the way it does because the band WANTED it to sound that way. Nick did what THEY wanted. It's one of the most unique sounding records they've made. And that's why Rush should've packed up years ago. If they wanted an album to sound like that then they are clearly lacking in any taste or critical facility whatsoever. I mean the "songs" were sh1t to begin with, but to make them even worse in production beggars belief. When TM reads this, all he'll hear in his head is fart noises! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's just sad when fans can't recognize a late career renaissance. Vapor Trails is a wonderful album and CA is a return to greatness. As far as production is concerned, I'd rather have great songs with subpar production than subpar songs produced exquisitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbine Freight Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 A late career renaissance? Production aside, CA is an insult to music. It's as if the band deliberately refuse to write anything that even resembles songs anymore in an act of obstinate defiance. It's a wall of noise. And that's being overly generous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Clockwork Angels sounds the way it does because the band WANTED it to sound that way. Nick did what THEY wanted. It's one of the most unique sounding records they've made. When TM reads this, all he'll hear in his head is fart noises!Segue most likely... ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Barchetta Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hey, laughed at...I realize the greatness of the songs themselves. But you really have to work to listen to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 A late career renaissance? Production aside, CA is an insult to music. It's as if the band deliberately refuse to write anything that even resembles songs anymore in an act of obstinate defiance. It's a wall of noise. And that's being overly generous.Are you sure you're not talking about the funereal effort prior to their comeback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Well i'm glad people like CA. but no matter how high they fly the flag. Still a badly produced badly written album to me. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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