Rick N. Backer Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Batflip. Controversy ensues. There was an interesting conversation on local sports-talk radio about celebrations and how they differ from MLB and almost every other sport. The NFL allows celebration and showing of emotion after pivotal plays, why not MLB? The general feeling was the baseball needs to loosen up and let it's players have fun. If they did, maybe MLB would stop losing ground in popularity to other sports like football, hockey and basketball. I think MLBs problem has to do with the speed of the game, and not really whether it allows celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Batflip. Controversy ensues. There was an interesting conversation on local sports-talk radio about celebrations and how they differ from MLB and almost every other sport. The NFL allows celebration and showing of emotion after pivotal plays, why not MLB? The general feeling was the baseball needs to loosen up and let it's players have fun. If they did, maybe MLB would stop losing ground in popularity to other sports like football, hockey and basketball. If Major League Baseball wants to loosen up, then it is primarily up to the narcissistic players to get over themselves. When they stop whining and crying and fuming everytime a player from the other team shows some emotion, then the game will be more fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It's still hard to believe I'm a National League fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The National League game is real baseball. 9 players, not 8 and 2 specialists. Greinke and Kershaw can hit. So can DadGum and a bunch of others. That said, Geddy is at the playoffs. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 David Price is the only pitcher in history to lose his first 5 career postseason starts.He could make it 6 straight today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Harold Reynolds’ analysis is the stuff you think in your head before speaking it, then you stay quiet when you realize it doesn’t make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It's still hard to believe I'm a National League fan... Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Price really shat the bed today. TOR offense needs to step up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone and a hard place Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Batflip. Controversy ensues. There was an interesting conversation on local sports-talk radio about celebrations and how they differ from MLB and almost every other sport. The NFL allows celebration and showing of emotion after pivotal plays, why not MLB? The general feeling was the baseball needs to loosen up and let it's players have fun. If they did, maybe MLB would stop losing ground in popularity to other sports like football, hockey and basketball. Damn unwritten rule that to much celebrating embarasses the other team. I agree--if you do something good act like an idiot if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 There's celebration and there's showing up the other guy/team. That's why unwritten rules are a gray area. I love to see that hillbilly DadGum get all bent outta shape when he thinks some dude is showing him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushCanuck Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Price really shat the bed today. TOR offense needs to step up.11 days of rest was a bad tactical mistake, in my books... Plus that damned Sports Illustrated cover... The curse is on the Jays, at least today.. Here's hoping Josh Donaldson and Jose Bats can play tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Price really shat the bed today. TOR offense needs to step up.11 days of rest was a bad tactical mistake, in my books... Plus that damned Sports Illustrated cover... The curse is on the Jays, at least today.. Here's hoping Josh Donaldson and Jose Bats can play tomorrow.The Blue Jays have an advantage in almost every area in the match up with my Rangers except for two: 1) We have experience over them 2) Our bull pen is better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAllTheTime Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Price really shat the bed today. TOR offense needs to step up.11 days of rest was a bad tactical mistake, in my books... Plus that damned Sports Illustrated cover... The curse is on the Jays, at least today.. Here's hoping Josh Donaldson and Jose Bats can play tomorrow.The Blue Jays have an advantage in almost every area in the match up with my Rangers except for two: 1) We have experience over them 2) Our bull pen is better. The post season is such a different monster altogether. A related, but not completely connected, note.... How many times have we seen the team with the best record in the game flame out quite early? A lot. Since the creation of the WC format, only 4 teams with the best record won the World Series and 20 clubs did not (the total of 24 teams exceed the number of years due to some ties for the best record). 9 of those 20 - almost half - lost in the Divisional Round. I realize Toronto did not have the best record over the course of the season, but they were among the hottest clubs in the second half and all the talking heads were salivating over their run differential. I am not saying Toronto is toast, either. I am just saying that all the talking heads that keep pushing Toronto as *the* team to beat either don't appear to really understand how the game changes in October, or they are just jumping on a bandwagon because the Blue Jays are the sexy pick. The "thing" about baseball's post-season is mashing is always trumped by pitching. Your point about the Ranger bullpen is very valid and the truth of the matter is Texas getting past Toronto's ace in Game 1 is huge for all sorts of reasons.... especially in a 5 game series. PS Yes, I realize the whole best record thing does not bode well for my Cardinals! This is even more a reality given there is some shakiness in the 3/4 spot in the rotation without Wainwright at the top. The one thing that really might be a factor is the Cubs having to burn Arrieta in the WC game and St. Louis only having to see him once (likely Game 3, but maybe Game 4 depending upon how the first 2 play out). But, yep, there it is again.... pitching. Edited October 9, 2015 by WorkingAllTheTime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 PS Yes, I realize the whole best record thing does not bode well for my Cardinals! This is even more a reality given there is some shakiness in the 3/4 spot in the rotation without Wainwright at the top. The one thing that really might be a factor is the Cubs having to burn Arrieta in the WC game and St. Louis only having to see him once (likely Game 3, but maybe Game 4 depending upon how the first 2 play out). But, yep, there it is again.... pitching. Lester, Hendricks, and Arrieta are taking the first three. I pray we sweep and don't go to game 4 otherwise it'll probably be Hammel If we go to Game 5 it'll probably be Lester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAllTheTime Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) PS Yes, I realize the whole best record thing does not bode well for my Cardinals! This is even more a reality given there is some shakiness in the 3/4 spot in the rotation without Wainwright at the top. The one thing that really might be a factor is the Cubs having to burn Arrieta in the WC game and St. Louis only having to see him once (likely Game 3, but maybe Game 4 depending upon how the first 2 play out). But, yep, there it is again.... pitching. Lester, Hendricks, and Arrieta are taking the first three. I pray we sweep and don't go to game 4 otherwise it'll probably be Hammel If we go to Game 5 it'll probably be Lester. St. Louis is apparently going with Lackey,Garcia, Wacha, Lynn. I say apparently because a lot of reliable sources in St. Louis are reporting that, but Matheny is being fairly quiet. That gives us: Game 1: Lester versus Lackey (oh, hey, look Red Sox fans have something to talk about)Game 2: Hendricks versus GarciaGame 3: Wacha versus ArrietaGame 4: Lynn versus HammelGame 5: Lester versus Lackey In a 7 game series, I'd say the starting pitching matchup nod would definitely go to Chicago, but those sets offer something interesting and I think it gets much tighter in a 5 game series. St. Louis has the better bullpen situation (maybe made exponentially better if Waino is Waino when he appears), but the Cubs have the edge with the bat. I see this going 5 games. PS Believe it or not, I like the Wacha versus Arrieta matchup. Fozie has been a bit of Jekyll and Hyde as of late. If he shows up as Jekyll and keeps the game tight with a chance for St. Louis to win in a close one, great. That's gravy. If he shows up as Hyde, it's not as if we burned an opportunity knowing Arrieta was a tough draw anyway. Edited October 9, 2015 by WorkingAllTheTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Analog Cub Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 PS Yes, I realize the whole best record thing does not bode well for my Cardinals! This is even more a reality given there is some shakiness in the 3/4 spot in the rotation without Wainwright at the top. The one thing that really might be a factor is the Cubs having to burn Arrieta in the WC game and St. Louis only having to see him once (likely Game 3, but maybe Game 4 depending upon how the first 2 play out). But, yep, there it is again.... pitching. Lester, Hendricks, and Arrieta are taking the first three. I pray we sweep and don't go to game 4 otherwise it'll probably be Hammel If we go to Game 5 it'll probably be Lester. St. Louis is apparently going with Lackey,Garcia, Wacha, Lynn. I say apparently because a lot of reliable sources in St. Louis are reporting that, but Matheny is being fairly quiet. That gives us: Game 1: Lester versus Lackey (oh, hey, look Red Sox fans have something to talk about)Game 2: Hendricks versus GarciaGame 3: Wacha versus ArrietaGame 4: Lynn versus HammelGame 5: Lester versus Lackey In a 7 game series, I'd say the starting pitching matchup nod would definitely go to Chicago, but those sets offer something interesting and I think it gets much tighter in a 5 game series. St. Louis has the better bullpen situation (maybe made exponentially better if Waino is Waino when he appears), but the Cubs have the edge with the bat. I see this going 5 games. PS Believe it or not, I like the Wacha versus Arrieta matchup. Fozie has been a bit of Jekyll and Hyde as of late. If he shows up as Jekyll and keeps the game tight with a chance for St. Louis to win in a close one, great. That's gravy. If he shows up as Hyde, it's not as if we burned an opportunity knowing Arrieta was a tough draw anyway. The best case scenario for the Cubs: Lester goes full postseason-Lester and twirls a gem, Arrieta continues doing what he's been doing for the last 4 months, and if Hendricks can get through 6 unscathed and the bullpen doesn't shit the bed, Cubs can do fine. Key here is Cubs roughing up the starters as much as possible, cause the Cards bullpen is much better than ours, particularly middle relief after Grimm's recent outings and the return of Waino. I have confidence in them being able to attack Wacha and Garcia, but Lackey's been much better against the Cubs. The Lynn-Hammel matchup is a crapshoot. Hammel has been garbage since he came off the DL, but the lineup has Lynn's number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Batflip. Controversy ensues. There was an interesting conversation on local sports-talk radio about celebrations and how they differ from MLB and almost every other sport. The NFL allows celebration and showing of emotion after pivotal plays, why not MLB? The general feeling was the baseball needs to loosen up and let it's players have fun. If they did, maybe MLB would stop losing ground in popularity to other sports like football, hockey and basketball. If Major League Baseball wants to loosen up, then it is primarily up to the narcissistic players to get over themselves. When they stop whining and crying and fuming everytime a player from the other team shows some emotion, then the game will be more fun. Its called PC!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushCanuck Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 I'm definitely white knuckling it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushCanuck Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 I'm definitely white knuckling it at this point. It's a nail biter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushCanuck Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 I'm definitely white knuckling it at this point. It's a nail biterOnto the 14th.. Pleasantries were exchanged between Kela and Donaldson, bottom of 13th, and the benches cleared, but cooler heads prevailed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 I'm definitely white knuckling it at this point. It's a nail biterGoing into the 14th inning now! Let's wrap this thing up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Extra innings in Toronto, 4-4.Into the 13th and still tied at 4-4 I'm definitely white knuckling it at this point. It's a nail biterOnto the 14th.. Pleasantries were exchanged between Kela and Donaldson, bottom of 13th, and the benches cleared, but cooler heads prevailed...I am having to follow on mlb.com from work. Sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 6-4 Texas!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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