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This was pretty creepy. The way they treat those in and out of their belief system was disgusting but not surprising; absolute loss of personal freedom for those who sign up. My dad has a dry sense of humor and is a big sci fi reader! I remember asking him about Scientology when younger and he says, "L. Ron Hubbard writes lousy science fiction; what makes you think a church he made up would be any better?" That cracked me up!!

 

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Saw that on HBO a few months ago. I hated Tom Cruise even more after that regarding how he yelled at his auditioned girlfriend months before he hooked up with Katie Holmes.

 

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This movie actually came out exactly 28 years ago this weekend.

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This was pretty creepy. The way they treat those in and out of their belief system was disgusting but not surprising; absolute loss of personal freedom for those who sign up. My dad has a dry sense of humor and is a big sci fi reader! I remember asking him about Scientology when younger and he says, "L. Ron Hubbard writes lousy science fiction; what makes you think a church he made up would be any better?" That cracked me up!!

 

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp338/plantfan40/81Cfvm22g8L._SL1500_.jpg

 

Saw that on HBO a few months ago. I hated Tom Cruise even more after that regarding how he yelled at his auditioned girlfriend months before he hooked up with Katie Holmes.

 

http://i62.tinypic.com/6s447k.jpg

 

This movie actually came out exactly 28 years ago this weekend.

I used to like him years ago in Rain Man, but he is so weird in real life I can't watch him anymore. He's the only actor I have ever felt that way about, ever! :D

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This was pretty creepy. The way they treat those in and out of their belief system was disgusting but not surprising; absolute loss of personal freedom for those who sign up. My dad has a dry sense of humor and is a big sci fi reader! I remember asking him about Scientology when younger and he says, "L. Ron Hubbard writes lousy science fiction; what makes you think a church he made up would be any better?" That cracked me up!!

 

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp338/plantfan40/81Cfvm22g8L._SL1500_.jpg

 

Saw that on HBO a few months ago. I hated Tom Cruise even more after that regarding how he yelled at his auditioned girlfriend months before he hooked up with Katie Holmes.

 

http://i62.tinypic.com/6s447k.jpg

 

This movie actually came out exactly 28 years ago this weekend.

I used to like him years ago in Rain Man, but he is so weird in real life I can't watch him anymore. He's the only actor I have ever felt that way about, ever! :D

 

I'm waiting until Amazon Instant through Epix for M:I5 since they play Paramount movies. Not paying $9 to that douchebag.

 

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Romancing the Stone. Still good fun!

"Ah man, The Doobie Brothers broke up! Shiiiit."

Haven't seen that in probably 30 years but I still remember it well.

 

That scene in particular is very funny.

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Romancing the Stone. Still good fun!

"Ah man, The Doobie Brothers broke up! Shiiiit."

Haven't seen that in probably 30 years but I still remember it well.

 

That scene in particular is very funny.

Yeah it is. In the same scene, Kathleen Turner is talking about how greedy Michael Douglas is and how he only cares about money; saying that she knew it when she first saw him. Douglas cockily replies, "Is that the first thing you thought when I Saved Your Ass?!" :LOL:

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Romancing the Stone. Still good fun!

"Ah man, The Doobie Brothers broke up! Shiiiit."

Haven't seen that in probably 30 years but I still remember it well.

 

That scene in particular is very funny.

Yeah it is. In the same scene, Kathleen Turner is talking about how greedy Michael Douglas is and how he only cares about money; saying that she knew it when she first saw him. Douglas cockily replies, "Is that the first thing you thought when I Saved Your Ass?!" :LOL:

Some very memorable lines. "Look at those snappers...", "My little mule..."
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Romancing the Stone. Still good fun!

"Ah man, The Doobie Brothers broke up! Shiiiit."

Haven't seen that in probably 30 years but I still remember it well.

 

That scene in particular is very funny.

Yeah it is. In the same scene, Kathleen Turner is talking about how greedy Michael Douglas is and how he only cares about money; saying that she knew it when she first saw him. Douglas cockily replies, "Is that the first thing you thought when I Saved Your Ass?!" :LOL:

Some very memorable lines. "Look at those snappers...", "My little mule..."

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Yeah, I remember those lines too. Such a fun fun movie. I still remember seeing that at the dollar cinema as a 10 year old with my best friend...a Rush fan & Marvel comic fan. We're still friends and we still love both. :)

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Romancing the Stone. Still good fun!

"Ah man, The Doobie Brothers broke up! Shiiiit."

Haven't seen that in probably 30 years but I still remember it well.

 

That scene in particular is very funny.

Yeah it is. In the same scene, Kathleen Turner is talking about how greedy Michael Douglas is and how he only cares about money; saying that she knew it when she first saw him. Douglas cockily replies, "Is that the first thing you thought when I Saved Your Ass?!" :LOL:

 

She was hot back in the day! :D

 

 

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http://i.imgur.com/YeQK6w8.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/2lA7Bdz.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/vFpvEfr.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/zdSy1VZ.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dRDEci5.jpg

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Over the last few days:

 

http://i.imgur.com/c7M3Bty.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/YeQK6w8.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/2lA7Bdz.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/vFpvEfr.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/zdSy1VZ.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dRDEci5.jpg

With that XMen flick it was much better than all of the other X flicks except part 2. But I still have some issues with:

1) Beast...Nicholas Hoult is ok and the look is fine but the movie character seems nothing like his comic personality

2) Bishop served no purpose in that.

3) Mystique seems more like that actress (forgot her name) than Mystique.

4) What happened to Rogue?

5) How does Kitty suddenly have THAT superpower ability?

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Over the last few days:

 

http://i.imgur.com/c7M3Bty.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/YeQK6w8.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/2lA7Bdz.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/vFpvEfr.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/zdSy1VZ.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dRDEci5.jpg

With that XMen flick it was much better than all of the other X flicks except part 2. But I still have some issues with:

1) Beast...Nicholas Hoult is ok and the look is fine but the movie character seems nothing like his comic personality

2) Bishop served no purpose in that.

3) Mystique seems more like that actress (forgot her name) than Mystique.

4) What happened to Rogue?

5) How does Kitty suddenly have THAT superpower ability?

Yeah this version of Beast was nothing like the intellectual Beast or the original Beast from the old school X-men comics.

I think they wanted to push Mystique to the fore to cash in on Jennifer Lawrence's Hunger Games fame. Maybe Rogue was dropped to accommodate more screen time for Mystique.

Bishop was always a useless character, I'm still not sure what his mutant power is now or before.

Kitty is another character I don't care about, not in this film especially.

I didn't like that other guy either Warpath he seemed a waste and the fire guy Sunspot a poor man's Human Torch.

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Over the last few days:

 

http://i.imgur.com/c7M3Bty.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/YeQK6w8.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/2lA7Bdz.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/vFpvEfr.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/zdSy1VZ.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dRDEci5.jpg

With that XMen flick it was much better than all of the other X flicks except part 2. But I still have some issues with:

1) Beast...Nicholas Hoult is ok and the look is fine but the movie character seems nothing like his comic personality

2) Bishop served no purpose in that.

3) Mystique seems more like that actress (forgot her name) than Mystique.

4) What happened to Rogue?

5) How does Kitty suddenly have THAT superpower ability?

Yeah this version of Beast was nothing like the intellectual Beast or the original Beast from the old school X-men comics.

I think they wanted to push Mystique to the fore to cash in on Jennifer Lawrence's Hunger Games fame. Maybe Rogue was dropped to accommodate more screen time for Mystique.

Bishop was always a useless character, I'm still not sure what his mutant power is now or before.

Kitty is another character I don't care about, not in this film especially.

I didn't like that other guy either Warpath he seemed a waste and the fire guy Sunspot a poor man's Human Torch.

Not sure why Rogue was dropped but I know there are a lot of scenes that WERE filmed. More than likely, you can find them in the extras section of the DVD.

 

Yeah, I never liked Bishop but his role in this was way too forced to please the comic audience.

 

Didn't like the Warpath kid. He shouldn't look like a guy that I can take down. He needs to be big. Also, he's another hero that was placed there to please comic fans.

 

However, Sunspot was kind of necessary in order for the Sentinel to wipe out Iceman after adapting the power of fire.

 

Can't say enough about Beast and how they've dropped the ball on him in these last two X films. X-Men 3 was total crap but at least the Kelsey Grammer Beast was close enough to comic Beast. He looked better too.

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Over the last few days:

 

http://i.imgur.com/c7M3Bty.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/YeQK6w8.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/2lA7Bdz.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/vFpvEfr.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/zdSy1VZ.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dRDEci5.jpg

With that XMen flick it was much better than all of the other X flicks except part 2. But I still have some issues with:

1) Beast...Nicholas Hoult is ok and the look is fine but the movie character seems nothing like his comic personality

2) Bishop served no purpose in that.

3) Mystique seems more like that actress (forgot her name) than Mystique.

4) What happened to Rogue?

5) How does Kitty suddenly have THAT superpower ability?

Yeah this version of Beast was nothing like the intellectual Beast or the original Beast from the old school X-men comics.

I think they wanted to push Mystique to the fore to cash in on Jennifer Lawrence's Hunger Games fame. Maybe Rogue was dropped to accommodate more screen time for Mystique.

Bishop was always a useless character, I'm still not sure what his mutant power is now or before.

Kitty is another character I don't care about, not in this film especially.

I didn't like that other guy either Warpath he seemed a waste and the fire guy Sunspot a poor man's Human Torch.

Not sure why Rogue was dropped but I know there are a lot of scenes that WERE filmed. More than likely, you can find them in the extras section of the DVD.

 

Yeah, I never liked Bishop but his role in this was way too forced to please the comic audience.

 

Didn't like the Warpath kid. He shouldn't look like a guy that I can take down. He needs to be big. Also, he's another hero that was placed there to please comic fans.

 

However, Sunspot was kind of necessary in order for the Sentinel to wipe out Iceman after adapting the power of fire.

 

Can't say enough about Beast and how they've dropped the ball on him in these last two X films. X-Men 3 was total crap but at least the Kelsey Grammer Beast was close enough to comic Beast. He looked better too.

I read an article yesterday about how Marvel are deliberately ruining the Fantastic Four and X-Men to undermine Fox's Marvel movies.

 

Here it is:

 

How Marvel Is Poisoning The X-Men And Fantastic Four To Spite Fox

 

Maybe it was "just a coincidence" — that's what we used to tell ourselves. But no more. Now, Marvel's practically flaunting it.

 

It all comes down to this: Marvel can't get movie rights to the X-Men and Fantastic Four back from 20th Century Fox — so the comic book publisher is doing everything it can to lower the value of those properties.

 

Marvel is literally scorching Fox's earth.

 

The Past

To understand where we are now, you have to know how we got here. Let's talk context.

 

Back in 2000, 20th Century Fox released Bryan Singer's X-Men to theaters — the first successful superhero film to be licensed from a Marvel property. (You could argue for Blade, but it didn't have the same broad appeal — or box office returns.)

 

It's not an overstatement to say that X-Men's success is the reason superheroes now rule the box office. Back in 1997, Warner Bros. released Batman and Robin — an abysmal failure that left a bad taste in the mouths of both Hollywood and the viewing public. No one attempted to launch a major superhero franchise for another three years.

 

When X-Men became a hit, Hollywood did what it does best: it emulated someone else's success. Sony released Spider-Man in 2002, launching its own superhero franchise. Warner Bros. struggled for ages to relaunch DC's Superman, but it was Superman's co-worker Batman who made his triumphant return to the big screen in 2005 with Batman Begins — which launched yet another franchise.

 

Somewhere along the way, Marvel got tired of only ever receiving a tiny piece of the movie pie (its licensing deals with Fox and Sony were reportedly extremely small) and decided to create its own movie studio. With the help of investors, Marvel Studios was born with Kevin Feige at the helm. Feige noticed that none of their licensing deals had touched any of the Avengers characters, and saw an opportunity to do something unprecedented.

 

Marvel's first self-owned movie was Iron Man in 2008 — kicking off a grand, ambitious plan for a connected film continuity that would include the Hulk, Thor, Captain America and others. In 2012, Marvel released The Avengers, the team-up culmination of its multiple big screen properties. The crowd-pleasing blockbuster became one of the highest grossing films of all time.

 

Every other studio in Hollywood noticed (again), and started snatching up any and every opportunity to create a connected movie universe of its own. Interestingly, Fox was one of the first to jump on the cinematic universe bandwagon, just months after The Avengers' success. But instead of seeking out a new universe to adapt from another medium, Fox decided to just take the two Marvel properties it already had the rights to – X-Men and Fantastic Four – and mash them up in a shared continuity. Comic book superstar Mark Millar was hired by Fox to oversee this initiative.

 

It should be noted that since this plan was announced, Fox has had a change of heart. The new Fantastic Four movie is set in a separate universe from the X-Men films.

 

But then something happened. Something huge — something hush-hush. It's a story that hasn't been told in any exposé news reports, and we have no details about it at all.

 

Maybe Fox's idea to combine the X-Men and Fantastic Four didn't sit well with Marvel. Maybe Marvel's gonzo success with The Avengers emboldened the publisher to flex its Hollywood muscles. Maybe Marvel made Fox an offer to get back the rights to two of its most popular superhero teams, and Fox said no. (Sony, by contrast, agreed to share custody of Spider-Man with Marvel.)

 

Then again, for all we know, it may not have involved any specific thing that actually occurred.

 

All we know for sure is that sometime around this point, the relationship between Marvel and Fox disintegrated. Or maybe their partnership was never all that rosy to begin with, and this was when it got worse.

 

Whatever caused this "Bad Blood," as we'll call it, we believe it happened around late 2012 or early 2013.

 

The Present

Last month, Marvel brought the Fantastic Four comic – one of the longest-running comic books of all time – to a conclusion. The team has disbanded, and its characters have set off in different directions, some of them joining other teams.

 

No one believes the comic was canceled for story reasons, or because of sales numbers. It was done because of the movie business. Maybe it was a directive from Feige and Marvel Studios. Maybe it was ordered by Disney. But it just feels wrong to think that it had anything to do with the actual comics.

 

The X-Men are a completely different scenario. Fantastic Four was just one book. The X-Men occupy an entire sector of the Marvel universe, comprising around ten titles a month. Marvel can't very well cancel its X-titles; too much money is made from them. But that doesn't mean Marvel is going to just leave the X-Men be, either.

 

A sticky quagmire arose recently when both Fox and Marvel realized that they each had a claim to the characters of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. This brother/sister duo were mutants by birth, yet they were longstanding members of the Avengers. Thus, Quicksilver appeared in both X-Men: Days of Future Past and Avengers: Age of Ultron, in two different incarnations.

 

By this point, the Bad Blood between the two studios was well underway. Just weeks ago, Marvel Comics launched a salvo over Fox's bow by retconning Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's lineage — so it turns out they're not mutants after all. It's not like Marvel is even trying to hide this as a jab at Fox. It's painfully obvious that the Bad Blood is the only reason for rewriting the duo's bloodlines. (It certainly didn't serve the comic's story.)

 

It was a pointless gesture; in fact, it felt kind of spiteful. Marvel can't revoke Fox's rights to use Quicksilver in next year's X-Men: Apocalypse, so it spat in Fox's face.

 

But that's just for starters. Marvel has been executing a long-term plan regarding the X-Men for a while now. Since Marvel Studios can't use the X-Men in movies or TV, the publisher is strategically elevating the profile of another, lesser-known team of superpowered not-quite-homo sapiens: the Inhumans.

 

The rise of the Inhumans could have started from an innocent place. Perhaps Marvel simply wanted to have an alt-human team it could use on film. If so, it's understandable.

 

But since the Inhumans initiative began, it's grown to the point that Marvel (er, Disney?) is hell-bent on making the public accept the Inhumans as bigger and more important than the X-Men. The Inhumans have been growing their number of monthly comics titles lately — when not that long ago, they didn't even star in one. The Inhumans is coming to the big screen in 2019, and ABC's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has spent two seasons introducing mainstream audiences to them.

 

In addition to all this, Marvel has just begun its most blatant attack on Fox yet. The publisher is actively trying to alter readers' memories of the X-Men and Fantastic Four's involvement in major comic book milestones. BleedingCool reports that Marvel is making a concerted effort to actually erase the FF and X-Men from historic images, such as the famous cover art from the original Secret Wars series from the 1980s.

 

The Future

We can only speculate on Marvel's future plans for the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. But there are already clues in place pointing to what's likely to happen.

 

As we mentioned earlier, the Fantastic Four are no longer a team, and Marvel is not publishing a monthly Fantastic Four book anymore. Johnny Storm – the Human Torch – is signing on with the Inhumans (hey, what a coincidence!). Sue Storm, the Invisible Woman, is working with S.H.I.E.L.D. All four characters, along with Sue and Reed's children, play major roles in Secret Wars.

 

Do you see what Marvel's up to? It's devious, but ingenious too. Marvel is having its cake and eating it too.

 

The Fantastic Four characters aren't dead. They live on, and we suspect they'll continue to play integral roles in the new universe Marvel is building in the wake of Secret Wars. The only difference is they're no longer the "Fantastic Four." Marvel has eliminated the team and its name, but not the heroes themselves. Clever, no?

 

As for the X-Men, no one believes they're going away anytime soon. But the universe-altering nature of Secret Wars gives Marvel carte blanche to do anything it wants with the hundreds of X-characters. Could Marvel have something similar in mind for the X-Men as what it did to the Fantastic Four? In other words, will Marvel keep the X-characters around but take away the "X-Men" name? Or might the publisher be planning something even more daring?

 

Whatever the X-Men plan is, you can bet it's been engineered to benefit Marvel and harm Fox.

 

 

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Thanks for the article treeduck.

Didn't know that the FF comic team disbanded. I only know that the two FF flicks sucked...hard! But their conspiracy about Johnny Storm joining The Inhumans is nonsense since he was always more connected to them more than any other hero (except for maybe Quicksilver) because of his relations with the Inhuman Crystal.

 

As for the X-flicks, they're batting around the same percentage as the Star Trek films IMHO. That is, I liked two (X2 & Days of Future Past), two were okay (X1 & First Class), one was not good (The Wolverine), and two were garbage (X3 & Wolverine: Origins).

 

Anyway, I'm all for having ALL the Marvel characters under one studio. Beat Fox into the ground! Send in Galactus, Onslaught, and The Celestials in to make things happen!!!

 

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I saw Pixels last week in 3D. Not a great movie, but it was fun. CGI was awesome. They got the nostaliga from the early 80's right, which was very cool.
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