danielmclark Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Eddie Van Halen 1978-2004 with Van Halen, plus a few guest appearances here and there. 11 studio albums over 16 years, not counting greatest hits or live packages. Joe Satriani 1986-2010 as a solo artist, plus many guest appearances. 2009-2011 with Chickenfoot, 2 albums 15 studio albums over 15 years, not counting greatest hits/live stuff. Please, for the love of god, leave Sammy and Dave out of this. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I like both a lot, but easily Eddie for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Eddie circa 1981 over satch. But Eddie stopped being interesting by the late 80s. I would say satch has been more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Probably Joe cause of his amazing versatility, but I like EVH's style much much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Eddie Van Halen. This is very biased though since I know the the entire VH catalog very well and I don't know much of anything from Satriani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastille Dave Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 22 2011, 09:47 AM) Eddie circa 1981 over satch. But Eddie stopped being interesting by the late 80s. I would say satch has been more consistent. I'm a big fan of Satch and VH, VH since 1978 and Satch since about 1998. Eddie from pre-debut up to about 1982 was so phenominal but then he just got lazy and uninspired after that. Satch has slowly gained momentum and made some great albums, even as recently as "Super Colossal". I think he too has run his course the last few years but he put out great albums much more consistently over the 25 years than Eddie did. Right now, I'd rather pay money to see Satch but if I has a time machine, I'd rather see Eddie play circa 1979 -1981. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Easily Eddie for me. I saw Satch once, in the early 90's. Bored the hell out of me. Eddie's got a better sense of songwriter to go with his chops...has the bluesy/pop sensibility underlying most of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyLeeRoth Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 QUOTE (greg2112 @ Oct 22 2011, 10:04 AM) Probably Joe cause of his amazing versatility, but I like EVH's style much much better. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) EVH for me. No contest. Can't wait for the new Van Halen record to come out so it shuts all of the negative ninnies up!! "FAIR WARNING!" Edited October 23, 2011 by RUSHHEAD666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 EVH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Oct 23 2011, 10:30 PM) QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. I totally understand taking the influence further on a technical level. I believe it's the truth. But, as far as being an artist or a composer or an original, I don't know if that's the case. I never heard a guitarist like Eddie Van Halen before Eddie Van Halen. I never heard a drummer like Neil Peart before Neil Peart. Is that the case with Satriani and Vai? Or Portnoy or Mangini? To me they are like the enjoyable, bigger is better sequel, but I always look to the original for that spark of inspiration or wonderment. That's not to say the newer musicians don't do that for some, but I love Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly because of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Does this make any sense? I'm ramblin' on again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 23 2011, 09:44 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Oct 23 2011, 10:30 PM) QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. I totally understand taking the influence further on a technical level. I believe it's the truth. But, as far as being an artist or a composer or an original, I don't know if that's the case. I never heard a guitarist like Eddie Van Halen before Eddie Van Halen. I never heard a drummer like Neil Peart before Neil Peart. Is that the case with Satriani and Vai? Or Portnoy or Mangini? To me they are like the enjoyable, bigger is better sequel, but I always look to the original for that spark of inspiration or wonderment. That's not to say the newer musicians don't do that for some, but I love Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly because of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Does this make any sense? I'm ramblin' on again! It makes perfect sense. And as far as being a true original, Eddie takes it. He changed the whole concept of rock guitar playing. But i think peoples love of Eddie from their youth cloud the fact that what he was doing 30 years ago isn't all that challenging to many players anymore, ON A SKILL LEVEL. As far as songwriting, tone, soul, and just overall cool, kick ass hard rock guitar playing, Eddie wins. But yeah, a lot of guys can outshred him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 23 2011, 07:44 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Oct 23 2011, 10:30 PM) QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. I totally understand taking the influence further on a technical level. I believe it's the truth. But, as far as being an artist or a composer or an original, I don't know if that's the case. I never heard a guitarist like Eddie Van Halen before Eddie Van Halen. I never heard a drummer like Neil Peart before Neil Peart. Is that the case with Satriani and Vai? Or Portnoy or Mangini? To me they are like the enjoyable, bigger is better sequel, but I always look to the original for that spark of inspiration or wonderment. That's not to say the newer musicians don't do that for some, but I love Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly because of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Does this make any sense? I'm ramblin' on again! Your rambles are good! Keep them going!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:54 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Oct 23 2011, 09:44 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Oct 23 2011, 10:30 PM) QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Oct 23 2011, 07:17 PM) QUOTE (Rick N. Backer @ Oct 23 2011, 08:23 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 22 2011, 09:37 AM)I know the thread will take on a life of its own but what I'm going for here is overall skill, longevity, breadth of output and influence. Skill: EVH is probably one of the 5 greatest rock guitarists. Longevity: EVH has been at it professionally since 1978. Breadth of Output: Beat It and The Seduction of Gina. Influence: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is not close. Eddie has been at it since '78, but Van Halen hasn't released a new album in 13 years. He was quite prolific from '78 to about '95. Satriani , skill wise, is more advanced than eddie. I think this is more about what style you prefer, and in that case, i like Eddie better. But Satriani is a monster technician. Eddie layed the ground work for guys like Satriani and Vai, but they surpassed him in many areas. It's the same argument when talking about Peart, and guys like Portnoy and Mangini, who were obviously influenced by him, but have taken his influence and gone even further. I totally understand taking the influence further on a technical level. I believe it's the truth. But, as far as being an artist or a composer or an original, I don't know if that's the case. I never heard a guitarist like Eddie Van Halen before Eddie Van Halen. I never heard a drummer like Neil Peart before Neil Peart. Is that the case with Satriani and Vai? Or Portnoy or Mangini? To me they are like the enjoyable, bigger is better sequel, but I always look to the original for that spark of inspiration or wonderment. That's not to say the newer musicians don't do that for some, but I love Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly because of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Does this make any sense? I'm ramblin' on again! It makes perfect sense. And as far as being a true original, Eddie takes it. He changed the whole concept of rock guitar playing. But i think peoples love of Eddie from their youth cloud the fact that what he was doing 30 years ago isn't all that challenging to many players anymore, ON A SKILL LEVEL. As far as songwriting, tone, soul, and just overall cool, kick ass hard rock guitar playing, Eddie wins. But yeah, a lot of guys can outshred him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Joe Satriani. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 From 1978 to 1984 Eddie was untouchable in my book Joe is a very gifted player but his music bores the hell out of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonfranck Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Joe is a great guitar player but Eddie is a true rock legend! So go EVH go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 QUOTE (tontonfranck @ Oct 24 2011, 03:00 PM) Joe is a great guitar player but Eddie is a true rock legend! So go EVH go! They are BOTH 'rock legends'. Whether people like one better than the other, no-one can deny that both Eddie and Joe are two of the greatest guitar players in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Eddie, although I appreciate all that Joe can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (metaldad @ Oct 24 2011, 08:01 AM) From 1978 to 1984 Eddie was untouchable in my book Joe is a very gifted player but his music bores the hell out of me Ditto. I find myself saying, "Man, this guy is an amazing talent! Will this song be over soon?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adace1 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Satriani for sure. EVH's stuff just doesn't have the same emotional quality as Joe's stuff does. I also like Buckethead, John Petrucci and Tosin Abasi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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