ColdFireYYZ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColdFireYYZ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (tick @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM)QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Good point. I should have said that most of the time I don't mind the lyrics, but there's always the extreme exceptions like you pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (presto123 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:17 PM) QUOTE (RUDT @ Sep 19 2011, 03:01 PM) QUOTE (laughedatbytime @ Sep 18 2011, 07:44 PM) QUOTE (presto123 @ Sep 16 2011, 05:46 PM) Omit Caravan and BU2B? Are you crazy? Those are two of the best songs I've heard from them in a long time. Oh yes, since Snakes and Arrows came out! To me Far Cry is the only song off SnA that can rival these two. Both songs are much better than Far Cry, let alone the rest of the tedium that makes up S&A (Mal Nar, excluded), IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM)QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Good point. I should have said that most of the time I don't mind the lyrics, but there's always the extreme exceptions like you pointed out. Tick, I understand your point if lyrics are gratuitous or sadistic, something which the lyrics of "BU2B" are not. The song is about an idea, one that has been around and debated about for millennia. Do you really find the lyrics of "BU2B" to be vile and disturbing? If so, that's different than lyrics being poorly written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tick Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:57 PM) QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM)QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Good point. I should have said that most of the time I don't mind the lyrics, but there's always the extreme exceptions like you pointed out. Tick, I understand your point if lyrics are gratuitous or sadistic, something which the lyrics of "BU2B" are not. The song is about an idea, one that has been around and debated about for millennia. Do you really find the lyrics of "BU2B" to be vile and disturbing? If so, that's different than lyrics being poorly written. I find Neil Peart's writing these days paints him as a bitter, cynical old man. Its old, its tired and its time to move on to something else. That is if he has anything else to say about...anything? Seriously. His redundant bashing of religion is getting pathetic. Does he really have nothing else relevant to say anymore? and yeah, his views are a joke to me. Vile or disgusting? Maybe not, but tired and worn out. Talk about anything else please! His lyrics on BU2B are something anything 15 year old kid could have written in creative writing class. Something that if they handed it in as homework, they would get a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUP1771 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (tick @ Sep 21 2011, 06:38 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:57 PM) QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM)QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Good point. I should have said that most of the time I don't mind the lyrics, but there's always the extreme exceptions like you pointed out. Tick, I understand your point if lyrics are gratuitous or sadistic, something which the lyrics of "BU2B" are not. The song is about an idea, one that has been around and debated about for millennia. Do you really find the lyrics of "BU2B" to be vile and disturbing? If so, that's different than lyrics being poorly written. I find Neil Peart's writing these days paints him as a bitter, cynical old man. Its old, its tired and its time to move on to something else. That is if he has anything else to say about...anything? Seriously. His redundant bashing of religion is getting pathetic. Does he really have nothing else relevant to say anymore? and yeah, his views are a joke to me. Vile or disgusting? Maybe not, but tired and worn out. Talk about anything else please! His lyrics on BU2B are something anything 15 year old kid could have written in creative writing class. Something that if they handed it in as homework, they would get a C. If you are going to make a statement like that on your last point, you could at the very least back it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (GUP1771 @ Sep 21 2011, 09:02 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 21 2011, 06:38 AM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Sep 20 2011, 08:57 PM) QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:47 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 20 2011, 08:40 PM)QUOTE (ColdFireYYZ @ Sep 20 2011, 08:35 PM) Even though I hate the lyrics to BU2B, I think its an awesome song. Lyrics to me are secondary to the music. If the music is good, then I don't really give the lyrics much thought. I do kind of wish that Neil would move away from the religious subjects since it does offend many people, but at the end of the day the music is what matters the most. JMO. I don't like the music or the lyrics personally, but that's just me. and to me lyrics absolutely matter. If a great musical song is about brutally raping someone, or killing children you would probably feel different. I know that is extreme, but we all have things we would not want filtering though our ears if we find it vile or disturbing or whatever. Good point. I should have said that most of the time I don't mind the lyrics, but there's always the extreme exceptions like you pointed out. Tick, I understand your point if lyrics are gratuitous or sadistic, something which the lyrics of "BU2B" are not. The song is about an idea, one that has been around and debated about for millennia. Do you really find the lyrics of "BU2B" to be vile and disturbing? If so, that's different than lyrics being poorly written. I find Neil Peart's writing these days paints him as a bitter, cynical old man. Its old, its tired and its time to move on to something else. That is if he has anything else to say about...anything? Seriously. His redundant bashing of religion is getting pathetic. Does he really have nothing else relevant to say anymore? and yeah, his views are a joke to me. Vile or disgusting? Maybe not, but tired and worn out. Talk about anything else please! His lyrics on BU2B are something anything 15 year old kid could have written in creative writing class. Something that if they handed it in as homework, they would get a C. If you are going to make a statement like that on your last point, you could at the very least back it up... lyrical excerpt from my song, free Inside the realm of time and space I know somewhere there is a place far from the bitter cold far from the world we know sometimes only the blind can see someone stop to rescue me finding the light of day I found a better way chorus ever you ever thought you've lost a gift could you feel the pain inside oh then you realize its only you, that brings it back to life. link to the song and others... http://www.myspace.com/primeelementrocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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circumstantial tree Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Just so I understand the process, they are writing a few songs, recording....then some more songs written and recorded. As opposed to writing the entire album and then recording it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druid13 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I am begining to think there is no understanding the process with this one....seems many moons ago when I picked up my 2 song CD at the Rush show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Let me send Geddy a message on Facebook and ask him... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/KublaKhan/24b6zk4_thjpg.gif It happens when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (circumstantial tree @ Sep 21 2011, 08:53 AM) Just so I understand the process, they are writing a few songs, recording....then some more songs written and recorded. As opposed to writing the entire album and then recording it? I thought MOST of it was already written? Maybe they only need one or two more tracks and they are going to do some spontaneous stuff in the studio like they have done on MANY records. Sometimes the last minute adds even become the single. I think Force Ten was a last minute add on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rushgoober Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 04:38 PM) New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Rush and "perfect" albums are long gone my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sawyer Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Sep 21 2011, 07:49 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 04:38 PM) New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Rush and "perfect" albums are long gone my friend. Yep. Presto was the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Sep 21 2011, 05:20 PM) QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Sep 21 2011, 07:49 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 04:38 PM) New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Rush and "perfect" albums are long gone my friend. Yep. Presto was the last one. Alas, you have to go back farther than that. CP was great, but not perfect. HYF was perfect except for the last two tracks. Power Windows didn't have any weak tracks, but for perfection as in every track is completely awesome, in my book you have to go back all the way to Grace Under Pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Enemy Without Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Can't wait, can't hate. Pate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Utility Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 07:51 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Sep 21 2011, 05:20 PM) QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Sep 21 2011, 07:49 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 04:38 PM) New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Rush and "perfect" albums are long gone my friend. Yep. Presto was the last one. Alas, you have to go back farther than that. CP was great, but not perfect. HYF was perfect except for the last two tracks. Power Windows didn't have any weak tracks, but for perfection as in every track is completely awesome, in my book you have to go back all the way to Grace Under Pressure. I'd argue that they haven't made a perfect album. Closest they came was Permanent Waves, but they ruined it with Freewill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 08:51 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Sep 21 2011, 05:20 PM) QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Sep 21 2011, 07:49 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Sep 21 2011, 04:38 PM) New info from Nick R. reported at RIAB about Clockwork Angels: QUOTE It is coming along fantastic, we have recorded two songs already and we released them last year and then the band went on tour. But we are currently in preproduction right now so that we can finish the rest of the record which we will start recording again in mid October. This seems to indicate that these songs will NOT be re-recorded or re-done in any way. Shame... I stand by my the album is already less than perfect comment. Rush and "perfect" albums are long gone my friend. Yep. Presto was the last one. Alas, you have to go back farther than that. CP was great, but not perfect. HYF was perfect except for the last two tracks. Power Windows didn't have any weak tracks, but for perfection as in every track is completely awesome, in my book you have to go back all the way to Grace Under Pressure. I don't like CP too much.......but I definately have to go back to Moving Pictures as their last "perfect" album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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