bscsmkr Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 28 2010, 07:38 PM) QUOTE (bscsmkr @ Jun 28 2010, 07:18 PM) I thought that we were going to really get a "vault" setlist this time around based on the information and rumors that were floating around along with the tour name. I thought this was the "B" Sides Tour. Mostly old and rare stuff - This is what I was led to believe Yeah? That's what you were led to believe, huh? By WHO, exactly? It wasn't the band... it wasn't the band's management... so what the hell are you basing your disappointment on? Internet rumors? You must be new to the internet if you believe a fraction of what you read online. I like this setlist, but I will not believe it to be real until the reports come in from the show tomorrow night. Until then, it's just another internet rumor. I think you need to calm down with the attitude there little fella. I'm pretty sure we have all been thinking the same thing since last year when Alex first mentioned a b-sides tour and the "news" started to flow. Almost all of us thought that this was going to be a some kind of a special tour to thank the fans who like me have been with them since the 70's. Take a poll of everyone here and see who believed up until recently that this was a special once in a lifetime tour? I bet those who are honest will confirm this Rumors started surfacing from "others in the know" about a short tour before recording commenced on a new record. Everything was proven correct. Even Alex mentioning JL in an interview seemed to press it. So excuse me for not liking a lot of recent output by the band and not being 100% happy with the set list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 If Jacob's Ladder really is missing it is quite puzzling to me. It has got to be one of the easier songs vocally for Geddy. Vocals are low register compared to other Rush stuff. If they think it's too long at least they could trim it down a little. I think a lot of people bought tickets thinking this song was a definite in the set list. I know I did. It's the song I've been wanting the most for the last decade. If they don't play it I wish Alex would have never spoke up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (anchorman @ Jun 28 2010, 03:01 PM) That set list is awful. Where's Jacob's Ladder ? I'm be surprised if that is accurate........for the most part VERY disapointing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todem Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) For me it's really simple...I have seen every tour starting with Signals for the exception of the Power Windows Tour. I only need to see a few more songs live and my Rush tour life will be complete. My favorite Rush song is Jacobs Ladder. If they indeed omit this again even after Alex flat out said they are bringing it back for this tour is just a major letdown....I mean major. I am very excited to see Presto, Time Stand Still, Faithless and Marathon. TCE is also going to be a major treat. But I am not one of those long time hard cores who has been pining for TCE...I have been pining for Jacobs Ladder which is by all accounts at least to my ears a quisesential classic epic frrom Rush. I expected a more EPIC setlist for the Time Machine Tour. It really is only JL I am big time upset about and they are playing Stick it Out which is a very weak Rush song...I mean really man..that is just bullshit that tune.....plug in The Analog Kid Red Sector A Even friggin Dreamline or another standard like The Trees or Force 10...anything but that hunk of shit. Other than that is is a good set list and I am sure it will all sound great...plus we are getting the 2 new tunes, La Villa, 2112....which always rocks. It's good...it's setting in that it's going to be a great show.....but please...I hope they are holding back Jacobs Ladder till tomorrow night! I have one more day of hope. Edited June 29, 2010 by Todem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxalisWombo Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) Edited June 29, 2010 by OxalisWombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (Todem @ Jun 28 2010, 08:19 PM) For me it's really simple...I have seen every tour starting with Signals for the exception of the Power Windows Tour. I only need to see a few more songs live and my Rush tour life will be complete. My favorite Rush song is Jacobs Ladder. If they indeed omit this again even after Alex flat out said they are bringing it back for this tour is just a major letdown....I mean major. I am very excited to see Presto, Time Stand Still, Faithless and Marathon. TCE is also going to be a major treat. But I am not one of those long time hard cores who has been pining for TCE...I have been pining for Jacobs Ladder which is but all accounts at least to my ears a quisesential classic epic frrom Rush. I expected a more EPIC setlist for the Time Machine Tour. It really is only JL I am big time upset about and they are playing Stick it Out which is a very weak Rush song...I mean really man..that is just bullshit that tune.....plug in The Analog Kid Red Sector A Even friggin Dreamline or another standard like The Trees or Force 10...anything but that hunk of shit. Other than that is is a good set list and I am sure it will all sound great...plus we are getting the 2 new tunes, La Villa, 2112....which always rocks. It's good...it's setting in that it's going to be a great show.....but please...I hope they are holding back Jacobs Ladder till tomorrow night! I have one more day of hope. Agree totally. See my above post. Plus on paper Jacobs Ladder should be one of the easiest to sing. Almost like a break for Geds voice. I thought it was a no brainer for the band to play it this time:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (bscsmkr @ Jun 28 2010, 08:11 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 28 2010, 07:38 PM) QUOTE (bscsmkr @ Jun 28 2010, 07:18 PM) I thought that we were going to really get a "vault" setlist this time around based on the information and rumors that were floating around along with the tour name. I thought this was the "B" Sides Tour. Mostly old and rare stuff - This is what I was led to believe Yeah? That's what you were led to believe, huh? By WHO, exactly? It wasn't the band... it wasn't the band's management... so what the hell are you basing your disappointment on? Internet rumors? You must be new to the internet if you believe a fraction of what you read online. I like this setlist, but I will not believe it to be real until the reports come in from the show tomorrow night. Until then, it's just another internet rumor. I think you need to calm down with the attitude there little fella. I'm pretty sure we have all been thinking the same thing since last year when Alex first mentioned a b-sides tour and the "news" started to flow. Almost all of us thought that this was going to be a some kind of a special tour to thank the fans who like me have been with them since the 70's. Take a poll of everyone here and see who believed up until recently that this was a special once in a lifetime tour? I bet those who are honest will confirm this Rumors started surfacing from "others in the know" about a short tour before recording commenced on a new record. Everything was proven correct. Even Alex mentioning JL in an interview seemed to press it. So excuse me for not liking a lot of recent output by the band and not being 100% happy with the set list. "little fella". Cute. Don't get up in my face because you put your stock in internet rumors. There was never any real news about this tour or the songs that would be on it, even counting Alex's comment about Jacob's Ladder - but as I've said elsewhere, if you're pissed off at that yet you can't wrap your head around the fact that you're getting ALL of Moving Pictures... Of the 26 songs listed, 14 of them - more than half - cover the period up to 1982. Of the remaining 12, two are the new ones off Clockwork Angels - can't fault them for that. So, ten of the 26 are tracks post-1982. Oh wait, 2 of those are solos for Alex & Neil. Just 8 of the 26 tracks listed are post-1982, and even considering *that*, another three of them are from the 80's, more than 20 years ago and certainly qualifying as "old". 5 tracks out of 26 that were recorded for Counterparts or later. But yeah, it's all new stuff. God, it's gonna SUCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun3701 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I think everyone is just over excited and a little on edge... it's the day before the start of the tour, and we're all anxious to see how they're going to blow us away. Nothing is official yet... but we should know the truth in a little over 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) What I don't get is why they are calling this the 'Time Machine' tour. On the S&A tour they played 6 songs that either have never been played or haven't been played in a long while: - Mission - Entre Nous - Circumstances - Bangkok - Digital Man - Witch Hunt This tour we are only getting 4: - Presto - Marathon - Time Stand Still - The Camera Eye And aside from The Camera Eye, none of them are as old or as "coveted" some of the songs they brought out for the S&A tour. I really don't get it. I don't see this 'Time Machine'. Edited June 29, 2010 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ReflectedLight Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (presto123 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:16 PM) If Jacob's Ladder really is missing it is quite puzzling to me. It has got to be one of the easier songs vocally for Geddy. Vocals are low register compared to other Rush stuff. If they think it's too long at least they could trim it down a little. I think a lot of people bought tickets thinking this song was a definite in the set list. I know I did. It's the song I've been wanting the most for the last decade. If they don't play it I wish Alex would have never spoke up about it. it's really hard to understand their thinking if this is what they going with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:25 PM) What I don't get is why they are calling this the 'Time Machine' tour. On the S&A tour they played 6 songs that either have never been played or haven't been played in a long while: - Mission - Entre Nous - Circumstances - Bangkok - Digital Man - Witch Hunt This tour we are only getting 4: - Presto - Marathon - Time Stand Still - The Camera Eye And aside from The Camera Eye, none of them are as old or as "coveted" some of the songs they brought out for the S&A tour. I really don't get it. I don't see this 'Time Machine'. Amen brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoes Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hmm...is it possible they knew it would leak and intentionally played a few songs they wont be playing tomorrow just to throw us off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growingbald Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 If everyone wants Jacob's Ladder that bad, then get rid of Camera Eye. You want a long track like JL, then get rid of another long track in CE. CE is a pretty dull song, especially in a concert setting. I don't see why people are going gaga over it...it's more of a pure studio album track that doesn't tranlate well to being live. But I'm glad to put up with some tracks I'm not exactly fond of, so live with it. Really people, if you hate the set list that bad, sell your tickets. Or if you really have the stones, turn your back and give them the finger during the tracks you don't like. It's going to be amusing to watch 15000 grumpy middle aged guys with their arms folded at a Rush concert. People get resistent to new ideas BECAUSE THEY BECOME GRUMPY OLD MEN. That's coming from a 47 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:25 PM) What I don't get is why they are calling this the 'Time Machine' tour. On the S&A tour they played 6 songs that either have never been played or haven't been played in a long while: - Mission - Entre Nous - Circumstances - Bangkok - Digital Man - Witch Hunt This tour we are only getting 4: - Presto - Marathon - Time Stand Still - The Camera Eye And aside from The Camera Eye, none of them are as old or as "coveted" some of the songs they brought out for the S&A tour. I really don't get it. I don't see this 'Time Machine'. Look closer. As I said a few minutes ago: Just 8 of the 26 tracks listed are post-1982, and even considering *that*, another three of them are from the 80's, more than 20 years ago and certainly qualifying as "old". 5 tracks out of 26 were recorded for Counterparts or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 throw in some songs like jacobs ladder, in the end, xanadu, analog kid, earthshine, or a prime mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 they are really ramming home the message with bu2b and faithless. drop faithless please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun3701 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 28 2010, 08:31 PM) they are really ramming home the message with bu2b and faithless. drop faithless please. that's what I said a few pages back and was scolded for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 28 2010, 08:30 PM) QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:25 PM) What I don't get is why they are calling this the 'Time Machine' tour. On the S&A tour they played 6 songs that either have never been played or haven't been played in a long while: - Mission - Entre Nous - Circumstances - Bangkok - Digital Man - Witch Hunt This tour we are only getting 4: - Presto - Marathon - Time Stand Still - The Camera Eye And aside from The Camera Eye, none of them are as old or as "coveted" some of the songs they brought out for the S&A tour. I really don't get it. I don't see this 'Time Machine'. Look closer. As I said a few minutes ago: Just 8 of the 26 tracks listed are post-1982, and even considering *that*, another three of them are from the 80's, more than 20 years ago and certainly qualifying as "old". 5 tracks out of 26 were recorded for Counterparts or later. Maybe so......but most of the old songs you speak of have been played to death......very few coveted or rarities here.....SnA tour had more is our point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 That's a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 If thats the setlist it looks like Im in for an extremely enjoyable evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 With all my complaining in this thread let me just add I'm psyched to hear those 2 new tracks. Love those songs and think they will be better live songs than the SnA material. Can't wait for the whole record. Bring back even more keys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthog Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Where's Score Out when you need him...oh wait...you guys ran him away..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (worthog @ Jun 28 2010, 09:01 PM) Where's Score Out when you need him...oh wait...you guys ran him away..... I sent FOH LIGHTS a pm but haven't got a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 QUOTE (presto123 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:35 PM) QUOTE (danielmclark @ Jun 28 2010, 08:30 PM) QUOTE (savagegrace26 @ Jun 28 2010, 08:25 PM) What I don't get is why they are calling this the 'Time Machine' tour. On the S&A tour they played 6 songs that either have never been played or haven't been played in a long while: - Mission - Entre Nous - Circumstances - Bangkok - Digital Man - Witch Hunt This tour we are only getting 4: - Presto - Marathon - Time Stand Still - The Camera Eye And aside from The Camera Eye, none of them are as old or as "coveted" some of the songs they brought out for the S&A tour. I really don't get it. I don't see this 'Time Machine'. Look closer. As I said a few minutes ago: Just 8 of the 26 tracks listed are post-1982, and even considering *that*, another three of them are from the 80's, more than 20 years ago and certainly qualifying as "old". 5 tracks out of 26 were recorded for Counterparts or later. Maybe so......but most of the old songs you speak of have been played to death......very few coveted or rarities here.....SnA tour had more is our point. but add in Caravan and BU2B and we are back to 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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