NeilPeartFan2112 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'd agree with the majority and say that it's definitely not overrated, but extremely overplayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Why would anyone think it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KublaKhan Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 QUOTE (momosdanceparty @ Aug 10 2006, 10:43 PM) QUOTE (cla2112 @ Aug 10 2006, 08:56 PM)You realize your "Xanadu" logo is from the Olivia Newton-John movie, right? Heh, heh. In high school, a friend (a drummer) told me that his band was going to bust out "Xanadu" in an upcoming battle of the bands. "Why do you want to play an Olivia Newton-John song?" I asked. *SMACK!* (At this time, the only RUSH song I had ever heard was... Tom Sawyer. ) Yes, it is a movie with ONJ in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaWanna Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 We're Talkin bout here People! how the f**k could ANY be overrated?!? U disappoint me D0o0od for EVEN thinkin That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABZ Highlander Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Is it F*ck!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 no, it is not overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The400Boys Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I don't understand the lyrics. 1 BackgroundA poet and lyricist, Dubois worked with the band Max Webster, who were based in Sarnia, Ontario, in the same province as Rush’s hometown of Toronto. The two bands were close, recording a song together, Battle Scar, that featured on Max Webster’s 1980 album Universal Juveniles. “Those guys were big friends of ours,” Lifeson recalls. “But Pye was a little mysterious – kind of a strange fellow! He was very quirky, a bit of a nut, but he did write great lyrics. And around 1980 he sent a poem to Neil with an idea to collaborate on a song. The original draft was called Louie The Warrior.” The poem was based on Twain’s 1876 novel The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer, which all three members of Rush had studied in school. Peart in particular identified with the book’s central themes of rebellion and independence. From 2112 through to Freewill on Permanent Waves, individuality was a recurring subject in Peart’s lyrics. What Dubois created in Louie The Warrior was, in Peart’s words, “a portrait of a modern-day rebel”. Says Lifeson: “Neil took that idea and massaged it, took out some of Pye’s lines and added his thing to it.” Peart chose the simpler title of Tom Sawyer and completed the lyrics with an element of autobiography. As he put it, “Reconciling the boy and man in myself.” (Taken from https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-behind-the-song-tom-sawyer-by-rush) 2 Themes of Tom Sawyera Moral and Social MaturationWhen the novel opens, Tom is engaged in and often the organizer of childhood pranks and make-believe games. ...As Tom begins to take initiative to help others instead of himself, he shows his increasing maturity, competence, and moral integrity. b Society’s HypocrisyTwain complicates Tom’s position on the border between childhood and adulthood by ridiculing and criticizing the values and practices of the adult world toward which Tom is heading. Twain’s harshest satire exposes the hypocrisy—and often the essential childishness—of social institutions such as school, church, and the law, as well as public opinion.The games the children play often seem like attempts to subvert authority and escape from conventional society. c Freedom through Social Exclusion (Taken from https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/tomsawyer/themes/) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I don't understand the lyrics. 1 BackgroundA poet and lyricist, Dubois worked with the band Max Webster, who were based in Sarnia, Ontario, in the same province as Rush’s hometown of Toronto. The two bands were close, recording a song together, Battle Scar, that featured on Max Webster’s 1980 album Universal Juveniles. “Those guys were big friends of ours,” Lifeson recalls. “But Pye was a little mysterious – kind of a strange fellow! He was very quirky, a bit of a nut, but he did write great lyrics. And around 1980 he sent a poem to Neil with an idea to collaborate on a song. The original draft was called Louie The Warrior.” The poem was based on Twain’s 1876 novel The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer, which all three members of Rush had studied in school. Peart in particular identified with the book’s central themes of rebellion and independence. From 2112 through to Freewill on Permanent Waves, individuality was a recurring subject in Peart’s lyrics. What Dubois created in Louie The Warrior was, in Peart’s words, “a portrait of a modern-day rebel”. Says Lifeson: “Neil took that idea and massaged it, took out some of Pye’s lines and added his thing to it.” Peart chose the simpler title of Tom Sawyer and completed the lyrics with an element of autobiography. As he put it, “Reconciling the boy and man in myself.” (Taken from https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-behind-the-song-tom-sawyer-by-rush) 2 Themes of Tom Sawyera Moral and Social MaturationWhen the novel opens, Tom is engaged in and often the organizer of childhood pranks and make-believe games. ...As Tom begins to take initiative to help others instead of himself, he shows his increasing maturity, competence, and moral integrity. b Society’s HypocrisyTwain complicates Tom’s position on the border between childhood and adulthood by ridiculing and criticizing the values and practices of the adult world toward which Tom is heading. Twain’s harshest satire exposes the hypocrisy—and often the essential childishness—of social institutions such as school, church, and the law, as well as public opinion.The games the children play often seem like attempts to subvert authority and escape from conventional society. c Freedom through Social Exclusion (Taken from https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/tomsawyer/themes/) You’re a bit late. Grizz died several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I don't understand the lyrics. 1 BackgroundA poet and lyricist, Dubois worked with the band Max Webster, who were based in Sarnia, Ontario, in the same province as Rush’s hometown of Toronto. The two bands were close, recording a song together, Battle Scar, that featured on Max Webster’s 1980 album Universal Juveniles. “Those guys were big friends of ours,” Lifeson recalls. “But Pye was a little mysterious – kind of a strange fellow! He was very quirky, a bit of a nut, but he did write great lyrics. And around 1980 he sent a poem to Neil with an idea to collaborate on a song. The original draft was called Louie The Warrior.” The poem was based on Twain’s 1876 novel The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer, which all three members of Rush had studied in school. Peart in particular identified with the book’s central themes of rebellion and independence. From 2112 through to Freewill on Permanent Waves, individuality was a recurring subject in Peart’s lyrics. What Dubois created in Louie The Warrior was, in Peart’s words, “a portrait of a modern-day rebel”. Says Lifeson: “Neil took that idea and massaged it, took out some of Pye’s lines and added his thing to it.” Peart chose the simpler title of Tom Sawyer and completed the lyrics with an element of autobiography. As he put it, “Reconciling the boy and man in myself.” (Taken from https://www.louderso...-sawyer-by-rush) 2 Themes of Tom Sawyera Moral and Social MaturationWhen the novel opens, Tom is engaged in and often the organizer of childhood pranks and make-believe games. ...As Tom begins to take initiative to help others instead of himself, he shows his increasing maturity, competence, and moral integrity. b Society’s HypocrisyTwain complicates Tom’s position on the border between childhood and adulthood by ridiculing and criticizing the values and practices of the adult world toward which Tom is heading. Twain’s harshest satire exposes the hypocrisy—and often the essential childishness—of social institutions such as school, church, and the law, as well as public opinion.The games the children play often seem like attempts to subvert authority and escape from conventional society. c Freedom through Social Exclusion (Taken from https://www.sparknot...msawyer/themes/) You’re a bit late. Grizz died several years ago.oh... sorry about that (tho I wasn't in this conversation till now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I don't understand the lyrics. 1 BackgroundA poet and lyricist, Dubois worked with the band Max Webster, who were based in Sarnia, Ontario, in the same province as Rush’s hometown of Toronto. The two bands were close, recording a song together, Battle Scar, that featured on Max Webster’s 1980 album Universal Juveniles. “Those guys were big friends of ours,” Lifeson recalls. “But Pye was a little mysterious – kind of a strange fellow! He was very quirky, a bit of a nut, but he did write great lyrics. And around 1980 he sent a poem to Neil with an idea to collaborate on a song. The original draft was called Louie The Warrior.” The poem was based on Twain’s 1876 novel The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer, which all three members of Rush had studied in school. Peart in particular identified with the book’s central themes of rebellion and independence. From 2112 through to Freewill on Permanent Waves, individuality was a recurring subject in Peart’s lyrics. What Dubois created in Louie The Warrior was, in Peart’s words, “a portrait of a modern-day rebel”. Says Lifeson: “Neil took that idea and massaged it, took out some of Pye’s lines and added his thing to it.” Peart chose the simpler title of Tom Sawyer and completed the lyrics with an element of autobiography. As he put it, “Reconciling the boy and man in myself.” (Taken from https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-behind-the-song-tom-sawyer-by-rush) 2 Themes of Tom Sawyera Moral and Social MaturationWhen the novel opens, Tom is engaged in and often the organizer of childhood pranks and make-believe games. ...As Tom begins to take initiative to help others instead of himself, he shows his increasing maturity, competence, and moral integrity. b Society’s HypocrisyTwain complicates Tom’s position on the border between childhood and adulthood by ridiculing and criticizing the values and practices of the adult world toward which Tom is heading. Twain’s harshest satire exposes the hypocrisy—and often the essential childishness—of social institutions such as school, church, and the law, as well as public opinion.The games the children play often seem like attempts to subvert authority and escape from conventional society. c Freedom through Social Exclusion (Taken from https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/tomsawyer/themes/) You’re a bit late. Grizz died several years ago.And I believe it was "Louie the Lawyer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 As the majority said in the first round, it is overplayed, but not over-rated. Great song. Cool sound, complex to appreciate but easy to hum along with, instantly recognizable hook/riff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driventotheedge Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Not overrated, just overplayed. The talented musicianship and great lyrics remain.This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 As the majority said in the first round, it is overplayed, but not over-rated. Great song. Cool sound, complex to appreciate but easy to hum along with, instantly recognizable hook/riff.It's one of those rare pop chart hits that represents the best that a rock band has to offer.Many other rock groups got their hits by bending a knee and changing their sound to fit the Current Pop Gods.Rush made the pop charts bend a knee to THEM, even if for a limited time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 As the majority said in the first round, it is overplayed, but not over-rated. Great song. Cool sound, complex to appreciate but easy to hum along with, instantly recognizable hook/riff.It's one of those rare pop chart hits that represents the best that a rock band has to offer.Many other rock groups got their hits by bending a knee and changing their sound to fit the Current Pop Gods.Rush made the pop charts bend a knee to THEM, even if for a limited time...Bent it all the way to #44!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hi_water._ Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) No way. It can only be appreciated after loving the albums leading up to it. The common man hears it as running with the devil. A true rush aficionado hears heaven open and God says “your just showing off”. if they were a one hit wonder ,this might have been it. BUT we all know they aren’t a 1HW. Hell they got like 5 albums that better the Beatles best Edited October 13, 2020 by Red3angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driventotheedge Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 ...........Hell they got like 5 albums that better the Beatles best Uh.........no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steevo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 No. That's YYZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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