apetersvt Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Family is asking for prayers. https://www.nme.com/news/music/cream-ginger-baker-critically-ill-hospital-family-2551376 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) He's a bit off the wall, but one helluva drummer. My Lord, 80 years old!!!!!Hard to believe. I will pray for him. APeters, thanks for posting this. Edited September 25, 2019 by Lorraine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Eek, no mention of him with Masters of Reality. Another legend leaving us. 80 is a good run! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buYmUGdLPTU Edited September 26, 2019 by stoopid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff. The Alice show, btw, was a disaster: they left the stage after three songs, came back, played one more, and left again. Show over. When people started throwing chairs, my date and I left. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff. I spent many hours in various chemically induced states of mind enjoying Sunrise on the Sufferbus. I don't play it much anymore, but it's a very important part of my musical journey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I spent many hours in various chemically induced states of mind enjoying Sunrise on the Sufferbus. I don't play it much anymore, but it's a very important part of my musical journey. I always especially liked "She Got Me," "Tilt-a-Whirl," and Baker's "T-USA," which is Baker doing spoken word about how crap American "tea" is. I don't know enough about drumming to rank Ginger Baker anywhere, but I do recognize where Cream fits in the pantheon, and he'll surely always be remembered as one of the greats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driventotheedge Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff. The Alice show, btw, was a disaster: they left the stage after three songs, came back, played one more, and left again. Show over. When people started throwing chairs, my date and I left.Assume Layne was in terrible shape and that's why it went as it did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Eyes Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Ginger Baker not in good shape But you should see the other guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaportrailer Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Always loved what he did on this: http://www.drummertalk.org/wp-content/uploads/GingerBaker.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Baker is an AMAZING drummer. Tons of swing, very unique sound...instantly recognizable. Totally shocked he’s still alive considering his self abuse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it! Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts. 1. Wow, what an a**hole. 2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had. 3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range. 4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke. 5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend! 6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure). 7. Godspeed, Ginger. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it! Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts. 1. Wow, what an a**hole. 2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had. 3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range. 4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke. 5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend! 6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure). 7. Godspeed, Ginger.I don't think he was ever playing with a full deck, and all the drugs made it worse. Edited September 27, 2019 by Lorraine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it! Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts. 1. Wow, what an a**hole. 2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had. 3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range. 4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke. 5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend! 6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure). 7. Godspeed, Ginger.Nope. Not going there. :outtahere: Edited September 28, 2019 by laughedatbytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 “If a plane went down and there was one survivor, it would be Ginger,” says his first wife, Elizabeth Ann Baker. “The devil takes care of his own. - Rolling Stone article "the Devil and Ginger Baker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it! Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts. 1. Wow, what an a**hole. 2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had. 3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range. 4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke. 5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend! 6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure). 7. Godspeed, Ginger. Definitely #7. I think his character is less than ideal, but as a drummer he was/is one of the most important in the history of rock music. Also, +1 to Lorraine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Carmina Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 “If a plane went down and there was one survivor, it would be Ginger,” says his first wife, Elizabeth Ann Baker. “The devil takes care of his own. - Rolling Stone article "the Devil and Ginger Baker" Yeah, she's quoted saying that in the documentary, too . . . What that woman must have gone through . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Eyes Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushFanForever Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Awhile back, someone I knew that later became a friend of mine was playing the 1994 album Going Back Home. At the time, I wasn't aware that Ginger Baker had roots in jazz music at all. I just knew him as the drummer in Cream. I also discovered the talents of bassist Charlie Haden and guitarist Bill Frisell. This album was my first introduction into 'jazz-rock' courtesy of my friend. One of the songs from Going Back Home that stood out for me is 'East Timor' that Baker wrote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMF2WehUbWc. While listening to the song, the 'spoken word' bit from Baker made me think of this as being 'Pressed Rat And Warthog' Part II. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YrNgwRqfy8 Edited September 28, 2019 by RushFanForever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ Now be honest - Mrs. Howell is a little hotter these days....everyone admit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Has anyone heard how he is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ Forget the girls. Look at that gorgeous white P bass. I need that! Edited September 30, 2019 by grep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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