Which PUNK ROCK bands you like?

[goose]

And in spite of all you say Green Day have theor own sound and before them I can't think of a single band that sounded like Green Day

I think you have a point in that Green Day is instantly recognizable.

 

And American Idiot is evidence that they have taken chances.

[goose]

Hang on....surely no one believes bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 et al are actually Punk, do they?

Those bands are all punk!

 

I know opinions differ, but for me Punk was a movement that started in the late 60s and ended in the early 80s...I just can't associate these more modern bands with their big record label resources and well produced sound with punk at all.

There's nothing punk about the bands listed.

 

They are punk to my generation. Music evolves, if Clash and Ramones are punk then these guys certainly are.

 

No, sorry they aren't Punk...whether they are good bands or not is actually a separate issue entirely...Punk was a movement and an attitude of it's time...it arose as a reaction to the increasingly bloated and corpulent excess of prog and arena bands, and was all about kids being able to bash out three chords on cheap shitty instruments in their garage.

 

The minute it became commercialised and polished then it ceased.....

So, 1976 then?

 

:P

[laughedatbytime]

No mention of Husker Du?

 

:goodone:

 

Love Land Speed Record (even though I'm more of a Mary Ann guy), New Day Rising, Candy Apple Gray, and even most of Warehouse...)

I think there's one I'm forgetting.

ETA: Zen Arcade.

Edited August 15, 2017 by laughedatbytime

[Lucas]

And how did they sell out? They were always pop-oriented and they just became better at hooks and songwriting as time went along.

Claiming to be punk but writing pop oriented music.

 

Punk is the antithesis of pop music.

 

Then why do The Ramones, Clash and others have simple chords and catchy, radio friendly choruses?

Simple cords, yes. Please tell me how well the Ramones charted? If you played Blitzkrieg Bop to 20 people on the street, how many of them would know that was the Ramones (or even know who the Ramones are). There is nothing pop about the Ramones. When they started, they were giving the bird to pop culture.

 

You could make the argument that the Clash may be the most approachable punk band out at the time.

 

To my ear, a band or performer who feels that they are "punk" usually are anything but - when bands try so hard to be whatever the stereotype of punk is, that is the lamest thing imaginable ..

 

The Ramones embraced everything pop culture - they were living breathing cartoon characters

 

 

It sounds too surreal to contemplate, but there’s a fair chance the Ramones might never have existed without the Bay City Rollers. It was certainly true of their incendiary debut single, Blitzkrieg Bop. “There was a big hit by the Bay City Rollers at the time called Saturday Night, which was a chant-type song,” says ex-drummer Tommy Ramone. “So I thought it would be fun to do for the Ramones too.

 

http://teamrock.com/feature/2014-07-14/story-behind-the-song-blitzkrieg-bop-by-the-ramones

 

And Glen Matlock admitted nicking ABBA when he wrote Pretty Vacant

Edited August 15, 2017 by Lucas

[The Cat 3]

The Ramones were equally influenced by The Stooges, The Beach Boys, The Beatles, girl groups of the 1960s and that Phil Spector "Wall of Sound". They are credited with inventing "punk" or, at the very least, putting it on the map. On those early tours The Ramones would play a city and there would be no "punk" bands. They'd return to that city a year later and "punk" bands had sprouted up everywhere like mushrooms. They were that influential and that inspirational. That is a historical fact, not an opinion. I think "punk" is almost an attitude more than a genre. One only has to look to early recordings of The Kinks or The Who to see and hear that. Indeed, you can go a little further back to Eddie Cochran in the 1950s to see and hear it as well. Edited August 15, 2017 by ReGorLaTroy

[Wayne]

The Stranglers

 

http://68.media.tumblr.com/6260d0ac76864ad74224e94015fd1cab/tumblr_nqwt77ezcT1rf2z80o1_500.jpg

[Fridge]

Hang on....surely no one believes bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 et al are actually Punk, do they?

Those bands are all punk!

 

I know opinions differ, but for me Punk was a movement that started in the late 60s and ended in the early 80s...I just can't associate these more modern bands with their big record label resources and well produced sound with punk at all.

There's nothing punk about the bands listed.

 

They are punk to my generation. Music evolves, if Clash and Ramones are punk then these guys certainly are.

 

No, sorry they aren't Punk...whether they are good bands or not is actually a separate issue entirely...Punk was a movement and an attitude of it's time...it arose as a reaction to the increasingly bloated and corpulent excess of prog and arena bands, and was all about kids being able to bash out three chords on cheap shitty instruments in their garage.

 

The minute it became commercialised and polished then it ceased.....

So, 1976 then?

 

:P

 

Malcolm McLaren only managed one band :-)

[Mithrandir]

The Ramones were equally influenced by The Stooges, The Beach Boys, The Beatles, girl groups of the 1960s and that Phil Spector "Wall of Sound". They are credited with inventing "punk" or, at the very least, putting it on the map. On those early tours The Ramones would play a city and there would be no "punk" bands. They'd return to that city a year later and "punk" bands had sprouted up everywhere like mushrooms. They were that influential and that inspirational. That is a historical fact, not an opinion. I think "punk" is almost an attitude more than a genre. One only has to look to early recordings of The Kinks or The Who to see and hear that. Indeed, you can go a little further back to Eddie Cochran in the 1950s to see and hear it as well.

Mozart was pretty punk too!

[The Cat 3]

The Ramones were equally influenced by The Stooges, The Beach Boys, The Beatles, girl groups of the 1960s and that Phil Spector "Wall of Sound". They are credited with inventing "punk" or, at the very least, putting it on the map. On those early tours The Ramones would play a city and there would be no "punk" bands. They'd return to that city a year later and "punk" bands had sprouted up everywhere like mushrooms. They were that influential and that inspirational. That is a historical fact, not an opinion. I think "punk" is almost an attitude more than a genre. One only has to look to early recordings of The Kinks or The Who to see and hear that. Indeed, you can go a little further back to Eddie Cochran in the 1950s to see and hear it as well.

Mozart was pretty punk too!

Exactly!

[Lucas]

Hang on....surely no one believes bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 et al are actually Punk, do they?

Those bands are all punk!

 

I know opinions differ, but for me Punk was a movement that started in the late 60s and ended in the early 80s...I just can't associate these more modern bands with their big record label resources and well produced sound with punk at all.

There's nothing punk about the bands listed.

 

They are punk to my generation. Music evolves, if Clash and Ramones are punk then these guys certainly are.

 

No, sorry they aren't Punk...whether they are good bands or not is actually a separate issue entirely...Punk was a movement and an attitude of it's time...it arose as a reaction to the increasingly bloated and corpulent excess of prog and arena bands, and was all about kids being able to bash out three chords on cheap shitty instruments in their garage.

 

The minute it became commercialised and polished then it ceased.....

So, 1976 then?

 

:P

 

Malcolm McLaren only managed one band :-)

 

Malcolm actually managed the New York Dolls in 1975 and drove the final nail into their coffin

 

This is actually pretty interesting - and shows the superficial side of a few performers

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/new-york-dolls-sylvain-sylvain-remembers-malcolm-mclaren-20100412

[Hatchetaxe&saw]

Wire.

Clash.

Pistols.

Buzzcocks.

Stranglers.

 

Green Day are about as punk as my ballsack.

[Lurkst]

No mention of Husker Du?

 

 

Definitely one of my top 10 fave bands. Were they punk though?...

 

 

[Mithrandir]

No mention of Husker Du?

 

 

Definitely one of my top 10 fave bands. Were they punk though?...

Post neo modern pop punk?

[Hatchetaxe&saw]

Good call on Husker Du. A lot of hardcore was punk, in essence.

Like The Clash though, the Huskers threw off the punk and hardcore shackles pretty quickly. Then they TOOK OFF.

 

[Lurkst]

No mention of Husker Du?

 

 

Definitely one of my top 10 fave bands. Were they punk though?...

Post neo modern pop punk?

 

PoNeMoPP?

 

No worse than NWoBHM...

 

[Entre_Perpetuo]

The Ramones were equally influenced by The Stooges, The Beach Boys, The Beatles, girl groups of the 1960s and that Phil Spector "Wall of Sound". They are credited with inventing "punk" or, at the very least, putting it on the map. On those early tours The Ramones would play a city and there would be no "punk" bands. They'd return to that city a year later and "punk" bands had sprouted up everywhere like mushrooms. They were that influential and that inspirational. That is a historical fact, not an opinion. I think "punk" is almost an attitude more than a genre. One only has to look to early recordings of The Kinks or The Who to see and hear that. Indeed, you can go a little further back to Eddie Cochran in the 1950s to see and hear it as well.

 

Preach.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

For my money, Green Day and their plentiful ilk play something known as pop punk. They use many of the elements of classic punk bands, the three power chord songs, the bubblegum sense of melody, and mix them with a more commercial friendly and generally suburban and/or socal attitude and tone to create music that reads as punk to the masses, but pop to the punks. Thus: pop punk.

[ReRushed]

For my money, Green Day and their plentiful ilk play something known as pop punk. They use many of the elements of classic punk bands, the three power chord songs, the bubblegum sense of melody, and mix them with a more commercial friendly and generally suburban and/or socal attitude and tone to create music that reads as punk to the masses, but pop to the punks. Thus: pop punk.

Poop punk?

[goose]

 

Easily my favorite punk band. Absolutely zero f***s given, true to themselves.

 

And Exene Cervenka is so punk hot.

[Lucas]

I think the early bands that are considered punk come across so much more sincere and better because they were taking their non-punk influences and creating something new ..

 

Could it be said that punk that has been influenced by punk is not punk ?

 

Anyways

 

Two more favorites

 

 

 

 

[Entre_Perpetuo]

For my money, Green Day and their plentiful ilk play something known as pop punk. They use many of the elements of classic punk bands, the three power chord songs, the bubblegum sense of melody, and mix them with a more commercial friendly and generally suburban and/or socal attitude and tone to create music that reads as punk to the masses, but pop to the punks. Thus: pop punk.

Poop punk?

 

In many an ear, certainly.

[Lurkst]

 

Easily my favorite punk band. Absolutely zero f***s given, true to themselves.

 

And Exene Cervenka is so punk hot.

 

That's tremendous!

Never heard any X before, but I remember Peter Buck saying in an interview years ago that he couldn't believe they didn't become massive.

 

[goose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEhts7g-4U

 

Easily my favorite punk band. Absolutely zero f***s given, true to themselves.

 

And Exene Cervenka is so punk hot.

 

That's tremendous!

Never heard any X before, but I remember Peter Buck saying in an interview years ago that he couldn't believe they didn't become massive.

They didn't catch on. Which is totally punk.

 

They are still touring, and had a good run as a folk band known as the Knitters.

 

Trivia: X were produced by Ray Manzarek.

[Segue Myles]

I think the early bands that are considered punk come across so much more sincere and better because they were taking their non-punk influences and creating something new ..

 

Could it be said that punk that has been influenced by punk is not punk ?

 

Anyways

 

Two more favorites

 

 

 

To my ears this is boring and just really unmoving. "Real punk" has no effect on me.

 

However the music I love that gets labelled punk never strikes me as being punk. So I agree with you!

[Lucas]

I think the early bands that are considered punk come across so much more sincere and better because they were taking their non-punk influences and creating something new ..

 

Could it be said that punk that has been influenced by punk is not punk ?

 

Anyways

 

Two more favorites

 

 

 

To my ears this is boring and just really unmoving. "Real punk" has no effect on me.

 

However the music I love that gets labelled punk never strikes me as being punk. So I agree with you!

 

How about some UK Subs ??