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In other news, apparently a woman named Tom Brady is pitching boots or slippers or something. http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Tom-Brady-Uggs.jpg

Yes, but these are the RUSH forums, not the Kansas forums. The difference is that here, nobody really gives a rat's arse how much you do or don't listen to Kansas. I don't think he's serious. Do you? I do agree with him though that there is little worse than watching a band trying to recover a glory they once had. I think he's serious. He's allowed to like another band more than Rush, and is allowed to state as much -- even here on a Rush board. But a person opens themselves up for criticism if they state those "other band more than Rush" opinions in a trollish manner -- which I do not think patjnev is doing up there. However, we have the following: You shitthead You've disgraced the name of Rush forever...get the f*ck off this site Sorry...got a little carried away there patjnev, remember what I just said about stating things in a trollish manner? "Sorry RUSH you're no Kansas" is an opinion you're allowed to have, but you had to know the reaction it would get when you typed that on a Rush board. You're allowed to state that opinion, but others are allowed to call you out for it as long as they don't go over the top -- like yyz211282 did in the above exchange. yyz211282, nice of you to offer that little apology there at the end, but it doesn't erase what preceded it, which was uncalled for and far more trollish than anything patjnev said. You're not allowed to talk to people like that here, and you don't have the right tell anyone to "get the f*ck off this site." Can you darn them to heck?

Clockwork Angels came out almost exactly two years ago. I loved it at first listen and must have heard it 25 times in the couple weeks that followed. At the time I considered it to be in my top 5 Rush albums, and possibly in my top 3, but I did wonder if it would stand the test of time. I listened to CA a lot in the months after it was released and although I've heard individual songs as they've popped up on iTunes it's been 6-12 months since I've listened to it in its entirety. (I'll often take a break from albums after hearing them 10, 50, or 100 times so I don't get burned out.) This last weekend I travelled to visit a friend and thought this would be a good time to revisit CA and see if it stood the test of time. You know what? It did, for me at least. I listened to the album 5 or 6 or 7 times and I was still excited about it. I think it's a phenomenal album. What about you? Have you listened to Clockwork Angels lately? Has it stood the test of time for you?

My daughter likes to wear boots.

Boots is my Dogs name. Thought I'd bump this thread just to say that.

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Those last three songs may not have the power of the earlier ones, but I think they are good in their own way. The lyrics are certainly meaningful. If the album ended with Headlong Flight it would leave you very energized and wanting more. Those three songs act as the falling action and dénouement/resolution in a book, releasing tension and wrapping everything up nicely.

I still listen to CA regularly, and I still consider it a top-tier Rush album—their best lyrically. The Anarchist remains a favorite, with Carnies, Caravan, and Wish Them Well close behind it, while BU2B2 is still the only track I consider disposable. Halo Effect (which I liked to begin with) has probably risen a bit in my esteem, and just recently The Garden (which I've never been crazy about) has too.

AFTK and Jacobs Ladder are the two songs worth admission alone. I'm hoping they play them because that would make a great graduation present for me in 2015 :P Down tuned or not I mean we'd still here AFTK live and I'd rather hear Ged sing it comfortably for a whole tour rather than burn out and cut it out on a possible second leg. If they decide to include it somewhere in the setlist I hope it's towards the end of the first or second set like they did with Circumstances in 2007 and Manhattan Project just recently.

Still sucks. You are a troll, and clearly are living under a bridge next to some hazardous chemical plant in the deep recesses of New Jersey.

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Kansas was a GREAT band for the first (for me) six albums. Once Steve Walsh left after the seventh, it was not the same band anymore, but in my opinion they were already headed in the wrong direction with that seventh album (Audio-Visions). And despite their best efforts since then, that former glory could never be reclaimed, And I say that as a very big fan of the original lineup. There are Rush fans who think the same -- that Rush stopped being Rush once a lot of the progginess went away. I'm a fan of all eras of Rush -- I love Clockwork Angels -- but I can understand why some fans stopped liking the band once they stopped making 20-minute epics, because THAT'S what they liked about Rush! Rush are still going, and still going strong, but that doesn't mean you're not a Rush fan if you don't like anything since Signals. Are you going to tell me I'm not a true fan of Kansas because I don't like much of their music since 1979's Monolith? No, you can't tell me that. Well, you could tell me that, but you'd be wrong. And you'd be rude for saying so. Growing up in the 80's, I saw pretty much all of the teen comedy/romance/drama movies of the time: The Breakfast Club, Better Off Dead, Pretty In Pink, so on and so forth. One movie I didn't see back then was Sixteen Candles. Now, as an adult, I can watch all of those movies I'd seen before, and still love them. But I do not have the same appreciation for Sixteen Candles. Even though it is the same genre, from the same time period, with the same actors, same themes, etc., I just can't watch that movie and laugh, or feel anything, really. Had I seen it at the time, I probably would have really liked it the way I did all the others. This is how I feel about Kansas. I grew up listening to Yes, Rush, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Genesis, and King Crimson. Loved it all. Never listened to Kansas. When I finally did hear some of their older stuff, it did have all of the elements in it that I would have loved back when I was a teenager. But hearing it at 39 years old, it just felt like I'd heard it all before, and couldn't muster the interest to really explore them. But I know I would have loved them when I was 16. Not their fault, just bad timing.

Kansas was a GREAT band for the first (for me) six albums. Once Steve Walsh left after the seventh, it was not the same band anymore, but in my opinion they were already headed in the wrong direction with that seventh album (Audio-Visions). And despite their best efforts since then, that former glory could never be reclaimed, And I say that as a very big fan of the original lineup. There are Rush fans who think the same -- that Rush stopped being Rush once a lot of the progginess went away. I'm a fan of all eras of Rush -- I love Clockwork Angels -- but I can understand why some fans stopped liking the band once they stopped making 20-minute epics, because THAT'S what they liked about Rush! Rush are still going, and still going strong, but that doesn't mean you're not a Rush fan if you don't like anything since Signals. Are you going to tell me I'm not a true fan of Kansas because I don't like much of their music since 1979's Monolith? No, you can't tell me that. Well, you could tell me that, but you'd be wrong. And you'd be rude for saying so.

Rush is on a Headlong Flight, while Kansas is merely Dust In The Wind. :sarcastic:

It's not the same, not even close. They are both arpegiatting figures and share a tiny element: they both have a section that has A to Ab to G with different notes played in between. In fact, Taurus has a repeating figure with the bottom strings B and E being played open together while stairway doesn't have this. Also, while spirit continues with this descending figure to F#, F and finally an open D, stairway switches from the (very brief) descending motif into a chord change to D and then F add E chord. There is no way I could be convinced this is plagiarism.

Yes, but these are the RUSH forums, not the Kansas forums. The difference is that here, nobody really gives a rat's arse how much you do or don't listen to Kansas. I don't think he's serious. Do you? I do agree with him though that there is little worse than watching a band trying to recover a glory they once had. I think he's serious. He's allowed to like another band more than Rush, and is allowed to state as much -- even here on a Rush board. But a person opens themselves up for criticism if they state those "other band more than Rush" opinions in a trollish manner -- which I do not think patjnev is doing up there. However, we have the following: You shitthead You've disgraced the name of Rush forever...get the f*ck off this site Sorry...got a little carried away there patjnev, remember what I just said about stating things in a trollish manner? "Sorry RUSH you're no Kansas" is an opinion you're allowed to have, but you had to know the reaction it would get when you typed that on a Rush board. You're allowed to state that opinion, but others are allowed to call you out for it as long as they don't go over the top -- like yyz211282 did in the above exchange. yyz211282, nice of you to offer that little apology there at the end, but it doesn't erase what preceded it, which was uncalled for and far more trollish than anything patjnev said. You're not allowed to talk to people like that here, and you don't have the right tell anyone to "get the f*ck off this site." Can you darn them to heck? Yes, that is acceptable.

As i stated 2 years ago, when the album was released, Clockwork Angels is a MASTERPIECE!!!!! nuff said :rush:

My boots are made for walkin'!

I don't currently own a pair but I used to wear boots on occasion.....

Merry Christmas you wonderful old Building and Loan!

Troutman and Rushman. Two very lucky gentlemen. What memories you both must have!

There was a lot of great rock music released after '81

No, no medleys, please! I think they're a tease, getting you worked up to hear something you know and love, then they let you down hard because they are not complete :( They're like a really bad date.

Caddyshack

The Garden sucks.

Don't you mean the Absurdly Prophetic Robes?

As for what I said " Sorry RUSH you're no Kansas " I honestly thought it might get a reaction maybe a good hearted poke or a few jokes. But to be told you get the hell out was something I had to sit and digest for a while . Even though they offered a apology it angered me greatly. And to be honest the more I read their reaction the angrier it made me . It should be obvious that I am entitled to a opinion about RUSH. I have never been a larger fan of ANY band but RUSH . I have seen them a number of times in concert and bought all of their studio releases. I even bought the ones that suck. I didn't even do that for Kansas !!!!!!!! I keep hoping for one last great release from the boys that is why I hang around . But not if I get my hind quarter singed everytime I voice a freaking opinion.

Rush rocks , Kansas rocks .....Rush still rocks ....Kansas still rocks ....Rush plays stadium ....Kansas plays well.....they play...but I still love them .

If Stairway was not a huge musical hit, we would not be discussing this.

It's the only chance Vikings fans will have to see the Lombardi trophy anywhere near their stadium...

Dog Years. It's got a killer riff, would really get the crowd going.

Personally I think Jimmy is mightly talented, but also he is (was?) smart enough to know a good tune when he heard it - and take it. If you know a little bit of Zeppelin history, you know this was quite a habit for him.

Don't Look Back was ours. And so many of those same f*ckers who voted for that song wind up going to every last goddamn class reunion!

Hell Worst song in the Rush catalog. Repetitive, boring lyrics that could have been written by a 3rd grader and nothing to write home about musically.

So, I have no problem with the fact some people call the letter "Zee" and others call it "Zed." But I do have a question for the people who grew up in Zed countries: Did you guys learn the rhyming alphabet song when you were little? Heh, I think I just answered my own question. When I went looking for a video of the song I found this one that says Zed. But it doesn't rhyme that way! http://youtu.be/LtFXYvNIxws

Comalies is the critics favourite. Most fans adore it. I have mixed views, I love it but rarely crave it. Entwined is a masterpiece.

The answer is in the thread title. Rush was asking "Why, why zed?" They didn't know either.

"Daddy Long Legs", we called them. Like with many insects and arachnids, it's always a trip to pick their legs off one by one :outtahere:

Wow, maybe the wife is right, I should get a life. I'm not sure what is worse-this thread idea or the fact I bothered to read every post? :drool:

Yes, but these are the RUSH forums, not the Kansas forums. The difference is that here, nobody really gives a rat's arse how much you do or don't listen to Kansas. I don't think he's serious. Do you? I do agree with him though that there is little worse than watching a band trying to recover a glory they once had.

Epic songs should always be recorded on the Epic Label so that everyone will know what they are about to listen to can be never anything less than an awesome epic.

Yes, but these are the RUSH forums, not the Kansas forums. The difference is that here, nobody really gives a rat's arse how much you do or don't listen to Kansas.

How bizarre would it be if they opened with YYZ, no one would expect that. I personally think that The Big Money deserves another chance as opener again, it's been too long. Also, does anyone think that Distant Early Warning would be a good opener?

:lol: :lol: Who's Jake Holmes?

No way they'll play 2112 in its entirety again. Subdivisions was amazing as an opener.

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You shitthead You've disgraced the name of Rush forever...get the f*ck off this site Sorry...got a little carried away there

You shitthead You've disgraced the name of Rush forever...get the f*ck off this site

You shitthead