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#21 Rick N. Backer

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:30 PM

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Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.

I agree those 3 are worlds better than anything they released between them and Grace.  And, in fact, their last three albums each improved on their immediate predecessor.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:32 PM

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Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.

It is bonkers.  HYF ended my close relationship with the band for almost 20 years.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:35 PM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.

It is bonkers.  HYF ended my close relationship with the band for almost 20 years.
C’MON MAN...HYF is a Rush album that you and your mother can both listen to and enjoy.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:40 PM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.

It is bonkers.  HYF ended my close relationship with the band for almost 20 years.
C’MON MAN...HYF is a Rush album that you and your mother can both listen to and enjoy.

It’s not good.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 06:47 PM

View PostHemiBeers, on 31 December 2017 - 05:28 PM, said:

Right or wrong, Rush was not afraid to change with the times. As much as I hate some of the results of these changes, I admire the f**k out of it. You quickly become a stale dinosaur by not developing in new directions. As awesome as Hemispheres and MP was, it would be boring as F to hear the same sound on subsequent records.

Did Portnoy want them to become the Ted Nugent of prog?

This is something an unimaginative meathead like Portnoy can't comprehend because his head is stuck at being a pretentious bore.

Great statement. I agree. I always assumed Prog meant to progress. While that progression took forms not every fan enjoyed it was a progression.

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh. Like what you like. Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.

It is bonkers.  HYF ended my close relationship with the band for almost 20 years.
C’MON MAN...HYF is a Rush album that you and your mother can both listen to and enjoy.
....and therrrrrre's your problem with it. well one among many.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:20 AM

Mike Portnoy and Eddie Trunk are the same. They don't like anything musically the band has done past the early 80's.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:44 AM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 11:48 AM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh. Like what you like. Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.
Wow, usually NYE hangovers don't last quite that long, but tomorrow's a new day and dull white noise won't have quite as much appeal.

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh. Like what you like. Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.

I won't take Presto over AFTK but I'll take many other Rush albums over AFTK, even ones a lot of people hold in pretty low regard (VT, Snakes, PoW)

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:01 PM

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Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.

I won't take Presto over AFTK but I'll take many other Rush albums over AFTK, even ones a lot of people hold in pretty low regard (VT, Snakes, PoW)
I think HYF is a top five Rush album for me. I also like Asia’s first two albums so...

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:04 PM

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Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh.    Like what you like.    Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.
Wow, usually NYE hangovers don't last quite that long, but tomorrow's a new day and dull white noise won't have quite as much appeal.
I'm a dull white guy, so Presto and I are quite happy together.  :lol:

Edited by goose, 01 January 2018 - 09:01 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:05 PM

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View Postgrasbo, on 31 December 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Would Rush still be around if they made Son of Moving Pictures,Book xxv11,an exercise in extreme indulgence parts 1-xxv111.?
I doubt it. I enjoyed the transition and journey back to basics with Vapor Trails, Snakes and CA.
You'd have to be a real fanboi to stick with the band past p/g at least until the end of career resurgence.

Or maybe just not stuck listening to 1 style of music. I personally much prefer Counterparts or Presto over Snakes & Arrows and most of Clockwork Angels but I'm no fanboy because they (the band) definitely have some clunkers.
Clunkers like Presto,  Counterparts,  T4E, Hold Your Fire,  and Snakes?   No, thanks.

ETA:   nah,  that's too harsh. Like what you like. Dislike what you like.   It's all fine.  I agree (mostly) with Portnoy but it's just an opinion.

That's the thing about Rush, they've used so many different styles over the course of their career. They kept it pretty consistent for better or worse from Counterparts onward (straightforward hard rock, but it's definitely Rush in nature) but prior to that they did a lot of different things. I've read from some people here that Hold Your Fire is their favorite album, which is absolutely bonkers to my ears.

Really though, as long as your favorite Rush album isn't Presto, you can't have that much loose wiring in the head.
I'll take Presto over AFTK all day, so there you go.

I won't take Presto over AFTK but I'll take many other Rush albums over AFTK, even ones a lot of people hold in pretty low regard (VT, Snakes, PoW)
I think HYF is a top five Rush album for me. I also like Asia’s first two albums so...
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:06 PM

HYF is my Fav Rush album.  And i think AFTK is vastly over praised.

Rush 1980-89 is my fav period.  so there it is, lol

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:10 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 01 January 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

HYF is my Fav Rush album.  And i think AFTK is vastly over praised.

Rush 1980-89 is my fav period.  so there it is, lol

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A period of change no doubt, fresh change and too many great songs to dismiss.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:12 PM

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View Postbluefox4000, on 01 January 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

HYF is my Fav Rush album.  And i think AFTK is vastly over praised.

Rush 1980-89 is my fav period.  so there it is, lol

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A period of change no doubt, fresh change and too many great songs to dismiss.

and i'm sorry but the live shows got better too.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:28 PM

Mike Portnoy! Didn't he used to be the drummer in an unpopular band, can't remember?

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:36 PM

View PostNew Digital Man, on 01 January 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Mike Portnoy! Didn't he used to be the drummer in an unpopular band, can't remember?

but he only reminds us he used to be in it every day, lol

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:20 PM

I think Power Windows and Hold Your Fire are among the very best albums Rush has produced. Everything thing post-Hold Your Fire is either okay or good with a fair share of mediocre or bad songs. Some good editing and trimming of the fat would have benefited those albums. All of 'em are way to long.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:25 PM

Portnoy loves the most heavy metal era of RUSH like me 1974-1981. At last Portnoy does something right! :haz: :goodone:




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