HUGE SPOILERS, PROBABLY HALF THE SETLIST

[Londonguy1]

"Well, you know I have over twenty albums of recorded music, very hard to choose one, uh, it's always the most recent child that's your favorite, but right now I'm still in love with Clockwork Angels, that whole album, and in particular there's a song called "The Garden" on it that is very close to me."

 

Geddy - Juno Awards press conference, March 2015

 

No matter what any of us think, Rush is Rush because they have always played the music they wanted to play. There's a reason they don't play casino greatest hits triple bills with the remnants of Styx and Foreigner. Someone not liking what they do has never stopped them, and it certainly won't stop them now.

 

BH and all the alleged setlist supporters, yall MISSING the point.

 

I like CA. I like VT. I like SnA. (sorry Mick).

 

But this tour was promised to be DIFFERENT, not the same setlist culled from R30 thru CA.

 

And actually to pick on your point about greatest hits band...that list is full of hits, so Rush IS a casino band NOW, how many track ones are on the list ;) ?

 

no need to apologise.'

 

but like i said Maybe ged just CAN'T do deep cuts

 

i mean i heard a boot of the CP tour and they did Prelude/Hemispheres and it was pretty awful vocally and that was 94!!!!!!!!!!

 

imagine 2015!!!!!!!

 

lol

 

Mick

 

They'll probably have to cut prelude before the vocals. I saw 3 counterparts shows and I was nervous before every "When are weery world was young"

[mrfriendly]

when alex said they were digging deep he literally must have meant jacobs ladder and hemispheres and thought that was sufficient enough, lol.

 

i really do not think CA songs will be heavily rotated maybe two may switch each night but I'm pretty sure you can bank on at least 3 slots reserved for clockwork songs. It seems that they want to try and hit a song from each album therefore i doubt far cry/OLV will rotate. And if RtB ends up being a rotate song maybe only if they are doing another song from that album. From what I remember Dreamline and Bravado always had accompanying videos so i doubt it since those two aren't on the list.

Edited May 5, 2015 by mrfriendly

[Christo]

Hard to believe Dreamline won't make an appearance at some point...

[dtpoet]

I just gonna say one more thing. The set......if true.......even though they said deep cuts. Indicates that they realized Ged hit a wall vocally. and they.....rightly don't want to.......kill him, lol

 

Mick

 

Dear Lord. They ALL have a hit a wall of some kind. It's as much about Neil's ailments as it is Geddy's voice. It's about Alex's limitations. They are all limited to some degree.

 

Just enjoy it. I really don't understand what more people expected. This is only part of the list. Wait until after Sunday's show...

[Justin Case]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

Edited May 5, 2015 by Justin Case

[bluefox4000]

I just gonna say one more thing. The set......if true.......even though they said deep cuts. Indicates that they realized Ged hit a wall vocally. and they.....rightly don't want to.......kill him, lol

 

Mick

 

Dear Lord. They ALL have a hit a wall of some kind. It's as much about Neil's ailments as it is Geddy's voice. It's about Alex's limitations. They are all limited to some degree.

 

Just enjoy it. I really don't understand what more people expected. This is only part of the list. Wait until after Sunday's show...

 

you're right i'll shut up to please the heard.

 

not really.

 

Mick

[ljr869]

Xanadu was pretty awesome at R30. I expect it to be spot on for R40.

[Lorraine]

Xanadu was pretty awesome at R30. I expect it to be spot on for R40.

 

I'm listening to it right now from a bootleg of a show in Anaheim California in 1981.

[bluefox4000]

Xanadu was pretty awesome at R30. I expect it to be spot on for R40.

 

I'm listening to it right now from a bootleg of a show in Anaheim California in 1981.

 

i love that boot.

 

Mick

[Lorraine]

Xanadu was pretty awesome at R30. I expect it to be spot on for R40.

 

I'm listening to it right now from a bootleg of a show in Anaheim California in 1981.

 

i love that boot.

 

Mick

 

After listening to it (listening to the one from Black Forest now), maybe we should just let sleeping dogs lie. Best to remember it the way it was. No way will it ever sound like that again.

 

Here's to Headlong Flight.

[EagleMoon]

As great a song as Xanadu is, you guys do realize it's not the greatest live song....right? I remember a critic in the 80's calling it a self indulgent song that missed the mark from the Indy show I went to. Headlong Flight is probably a better live song if more folks were familiar with it. haha

 

um respectfully..........pish posh , lol

 

Mick

 

Exactly. Xanadu was the Tom Sawyer or TSOR of it's day, but even more so.

[USB Connector]

I'm really hoping that most of this is just stuff playing in video clips. What happened when Alex said they really dug deep? This is the setlist I'd imagine them playing if they were going to be a nostalgia band and just bring out old tunes.

 

Also, as much as I love CA, there are way too many CA songs for a farewell tour.

 

It just occurred to me that maybe that's how they want us to remember them. Rush, like every other band (really, how many times, if ever, have you heard any band say they like their old songs better than their new ones???), thinks their most recent album is the best yet.

 

I agree but I'd like at least 2 tracks they haven't played in a very long time or not played at all. There are no deep cuts aside from Jacob's Ladder. The rest of the set is just their greatest hits. The CA tour was fantastic with how many cool songs they pulled out. Can't we have a tiny iota of that played every night?

[mrfriendly]

If you really think about what the deep cuts were from CA tour:

 

Grand Designs, Territories, Body Electric, Manhattan Project, Middletown Dreams, Analog Kid

 

You can maybe add wheres my thing but whatever its an instrumental very forgettable.

 

So only 6 real deep cuts. As we know there are several slots still open for this tour, they could add in a couple more.

 

I remember viewing the opening night thread for CA as it happened and we were all shocked. But really all those songs were from the electronic era mainly Power Windows and a couple were rotation songs. So really only 4-5 deep cuts each night which when you think about it is not a lot really.

[GabesCavesOfIce]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

I realize that you dont want to hear this but this list is only video credits. Its not the setlist.

 

 

Yes fully aware, that's why I refer to it as the "leaked list" and not "set list."

 

It's more than a fair sample size.

 

One example...I am a CP fan, I get plenty of heat on TRF about that. Why pick Animate AGAIN. I like the tune, but c'mon. How about CTTC or Sun and Moon. Cut, never, Sun less than one full tour. This ain't rocket science Neil.

 

Geez, I tell ya. That's just ONE example. We could do this all decade.

 

.

[Jaminbenb]

If you really think about what the deep cuts were from CA tour:

 

Grand Designs, Territories, Body Electric, Manhattan Project, Middletown Dreams, Analog Kid

 

You can maybe add wheres my thing but whatever its an instrumental very forgettable.

 

So only 6 real deep cuts. As we know there are several slots still open for this tour, they could add in a couple more.

 

I remember viewing the opening night thread for CA as it happened and we were all shocked. But really all those songs were from the electronic era mainly Power Windows and a couple were rotation songs. So really only 4-5 deep cuts each night which when you think about it is not a lot really.

 

If you really want push to come to shove...I wasn't over;y thrilled with those Power Windows cuts because I SAW that tour, and it wasn't one of my favorite albums! It was nice to hear the CA stuff but not too many overly deep tunes for my taste...I just listened to that CD on my iPad and thought "eh"....

[default236]

I find it absurd how many fans are upset with the setlist rumors. I'm just glad they're still deciding to tour with their age. That said, unless they play an Abq date, there's no way I'll be able to see them this tour. :( Especially now that lasers are making a comeback!

[WIDE-ANGLE WATCHER]

I'll if this is true it is shaping up to be one of the worst sets in a while.....seriously.

 

Mick

Relax Mick....You'll enjoy yourself at the show...and hopefully at shows' end you'll raise your arms in praise of 40+ years of great songs and relentless touring. A couple surprise deep cut songs will hopefully quell the dis-satisfied 'hardcore' fan.

[GabesCavesOfIce]

I just gonna say one more thing. The set......if true.......even though they said deep cuts. Indicates that they realized Ged hit a wall vocally. and they.....rightly don't want to.......kill him, lol

 

Mick

 

Dear Lord. They ALL have a hit a wall of some kind. It's as much about Neil's ailments as it is Geddy's voice. It's about Alex's limitations. They are all limited to some degree.

 

Just enjoy it. I really don't understand what more people expected. This is only part of the list. Wait until after Sunday's show...

 

Dear Lord, I'd take, believe it or not,

 

Different Strings

Madrigal

Lessons

Tears

Rivendell

Cinderella Man

The Sphere.

 

These songs...If the Wall is such an issue would give the band time to chill. But I am not seeing easy, softer tunes on the alleged leaked list. I Don't get the wall comments, considering the list they selected has plenty of uptempo songs.

 

Also, there is a lot of chit chat about selecting a list for the "casual" rock fan. How many casuals know OLV, FC, RTB, BM. None of those, plus many more on the list, are never played on the radio here. Never.

 

Casual fans would be more impressed seeing the crowd go nuts over Xanadu or A Farewell to Kings title track or Fly By Night title track or the Sphere. By a Canadian mile.

[Union 5-3992]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

I just looked up the setlists from R30-Clockwork angels and excluding Drum Solos and Feedback covers, Rush played roughly 70 different songs in the last 10 years.

[Jaminbenb]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

I just looked up the setlists from R30-Clockwork angels and excluding Drum Solos and Feedback covers, Rush played roughly 70 different songs in the last 10 years.

 

Exactly! They've mixed it up CRAZILY over the past bunch of years...no major complaints here! (I wish they had a site that did the break downs of what you saw over the tours like a Dave Matthews site I belong to...they have function that you put in the shows you attended, and it breaks down by album what you saw and didn't see over those shows..pretty neat!)

[treeduck]

[bigalfan]

Uuummmmm...yeah, Hemispheres, Cygnus X-1, Jacob's Ladder, and Natural Science all SUCK! Where are the deep-cuts?? I'm pretty damn happy with those - not to mention what's possibly coming that doesn't have video. Let the first show play out...then bitch if you still have too. See you opening night in Tulsa!

[GabesCavesOfIce]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

I just looked up the setlists from R30-Clockwork angels and excluding Drum Solos and Feedback covers, Rush played roughly 70 different songs in the last 10 years.

 

Full songs from the 70s played-

 

Working Man (with horrific reggae)

LVS

Trees

Circumstances

CTTH

2112 (played every tour, hardly a stunner, fun tho)

 

Missing anything?

Xanaconductor?

 

70 vs 6, geez that's impressive.

 

;)

 

 

.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Gabrielgil513

[Union 5-3992]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

I just looked up the setlists from R30-Clockwork angels and excluding Drum Solos and Feedback covers, Rush played roughly 70 different songs in the last 10 years.

 

Full songs from the 70s played-

 

Working Man (with horrific reggae)

LVS

Trees

Circumstances

CTTH

2112 (played every tour, hardly a stunner, fun tho)

 

Missing anything?

Xanaconductor?

 

70 vs 6, geez that's impressive.

 

;)

 

 

.

 

That's just the 70's though. Count everything Moving Pictures and before. A lot of people think Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves are great too

Red Barchetta

Vital Signs

Witch Hunt

Camera Eye

YYZ

Tom Sawyer

Limelight

2112

Spirit of the Radio

Entre Nous

Natural Science

Freewill

Closer to the Heart

Working Man

La Villa Strangiato

Circumstances

Xanadu

 

That's 17/70ish. Also account for Geddy's voice not being able to sing as high, then this is to be expected.

[bluefox4000]

Do some of you folks realize how many bands play the exact same show, with absolutely 0 changes to set list or order for year upon year upon year? Seriously...we're in damn good shape as far as varying setlists from tour to tour goes. The only way it can be better is if they would start with say 50 songs and create completely unique set lists every night.

 

People complain that they played certain songs on R30...however that was 11 years ago. By comparison, when I first saw Rush (HYF tour), 11 years prior would have been 2112. 11 years is a long time for any song to be out of rotation.

 

 

Again, MISSING the point. The ENTIRE alleged leaked list is R30 or current, last 4 tours, sans two songs. After what was promised by the band, its a disappointing list, given its the last tour and they indicated setlist would be special, not repeats.

 

Plus to compare 11 year gap to other eras when albums were released every year is a hugely misleading comment.

 

No...I think you may be missing the point. There are bands that have not changed a thing in their show over the last 11 years. They are still doing an identical performance to what they were doing in 2004. As Rush fans, we got 4 tours in that time that were around 25 songs per show and only about 5 of those songs has been played on every one (and even fewer, I believe the number to be 2, that have been performed at every show). Even though they may not be playing what you (or I) would like to hear most, we still have it really good as Rush fans.

 

And, if you really want to do a fair comparison, the only tour that should be on the table is CA...and we know already that was drastically different.

I just looked up the setlists from R30-Clockwork angels and excluding Drum Solos and Feedback covers, Rush played roughly 70 different songs in the last 10 years.

 

Full songs from the 70s played-

 

Working Man (with horrific reggae)

LVS

Trees

Circumstances

CTTH

2112 (played every tour, hardly a stunner, fun tho)

 

Missing anything?

Xanaconductor?

 

70 vs 6, geez that's impressive.

 

;)

 

 

.

 

That's just the 70's though. Count everything Moving Pictures and before. A lot of people think Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves are great too

Red Barchetta

Vital Signs

Witch Hunt

Camera Eye

YYZ

Tom Sawyer

Limelight

2112

Spirit of the Radio

Entre Nous

Natural Science

Freewill

Closer to the Heart

Working Man

La Villa Strangiato

Circumstances

Xanadu

 

That's 17/70ish. Also account for Geddy's voice not being able to sing as high, then this is to be expected.

 

Agreed. it' what i was saying before maybe they tried some 70's stuff and Ged said i'll kill myself doing this, lol.

 

I dunno.

 

Mick