Official Dream Theater Thread

[tangy]

QUOTE (deadwing2112 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:37 PM)

QUOTE (BillBuckner @ Feb 14 2007, 05:24 PM) Those guys are so overrated. : Not that much overated. overhated not overrated

[Tick]

http://img117.echo.cx/img117/3919/arrowrock3vv.gif

as we prepare for the coming of new rush, forget not dream theater fans ! new album ! new tour ! f**k all the haters out there, rush and dream theater tours at the same time, this is our year !

 

 

[treeduck]

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 16 2007, 02:02 PM)

http://img117.echo.cx/img117/3919/arrowrock3vv.gif as we prepare for the coming of new rush, forget not dream theater fans ! new album ! new tour ! f**k all the haters out there, rush and dream theater tours at the same time, this is our year !

Well I'll certainly get the album Tick, and I'm looking forward to it...

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 16 2007, 02:02 PM)

http://img117.echo.cx/img117/3919/arrowrock3vv.gif as we prepare for the coming of new rush, forget not dream theater fans ! new album ! new tour ! f**k all the haters out there, rush and dream theater tours at the same time, this is our year !

Okay... here's the scenario... Rush and DT are playing the same night. You can only go to ONE concert this year. Which one do you go to. I know you've seen a bazillion times, but it could always be their LAST tour... so with that in mind... what do you do?

 

I mean... i'm sure you could always call DT to play your kid's birthday or the next TickKliq BBQ anyway.

[Tick]

thankfully living where i do, this cant happen for me, theres to many venues i could see them both at so if rush and dream theater both played connecticut on the same night id go to see the other one in new york.

 

you didnt think i would ever answer that question did you ?

Edited February 18, 2007 by tick

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 18 2007, 12:35 PM)

thankfully living where i do, this cant happen for me, theres to many venues i could see them both at so if rush and dream theater both played connecticut on the same night id go to see the other one in new york. you didnt think i would ever answer that question did you ?

I also expected you to READ the question. It clearly states you can only go to ONE concert this year. DUH. I know you can't type, but I thought you could at least READ.

 

Now answer the question the right way.

[the masked drummer]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Feb 18 2007, 11:29 AM)

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 16 2007, 02:02 PM) http://img117.echo.cx/img117/3919/arrowrock3vv.gif as we prepare for the coming of new rush, forget not dream theater fans ! new album ! new tour !   f**k all the haters out there, rush and dream theater tours at the same time, this is our year ! Okay... here's the scenario... Rush and DT are playing the same night. You can only go to ONE concert this year. Which one do you go to. I know you've seen a bazillion times, but it could always be their LAST tour... so with that in mind... what do you do?   I mean... i'm sure you could always call DT to play your kid's birthday or the next TickKliq BBQ anyway. Well, I've seen Rush about 23 times and DT about 18 times, so I'd prolly go see Rush since their touring days are numbered. Rush members are about 15-16 years older than Petrucci/Myung/Portnoy. Jordan's like 51yo, but I could see him playing wildly at the age of 65, no prob. lol If Rush's new album and tour sells well, I can't see them touring again, unless they do a farewell tour. In fact I I were their tour manager I'd call this next tour a farewell tour to max out the ticket sales. Touring is where the money is. Album sales is chump change for most bands (except for the producer, of course).

[Tick]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Feb 18 2007, 04:36 PM)

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 18 2007, 12:35 PM) thankfully living where i do,  this cant happen for me, theres to many venues i could see them both at so if rush and dream theater both played connecticut on the same night id go to see the other one in new york. you didnt think i would ever answer that question did you ? I also expected you to READ the question. It clearly states you can only go to ONE concert this year. DUH. I know you can't type, but I thought you could at least READ.   Now answer the question the right way. LISTEN, HAIR FOOT NECRO ! i wont answer because this is a rush board and i wont suffer the concequences of my answer, but ive seen rush 35 times and dream theater once so you may draw your own conclusion.     "HAIR FOOT NECRO ! "

[the masked drummer]

QUOTE (tangdog @ Feb 15 2007, 09:12 PM)

QUOTE (deadwing2112 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:37 PM) QUOTE (BillBuckner @ Feb 14 2007, 05:24 PM) Those guys are so overrated. : Not that much overated. overhated not overrated You called it, Tangdog!!!

[Snowman]

QUOTE (the_masked_drummer @ Feb 19 2007, 10:04 AM)

QUOTE (tangdog @ Feb 15 2007, 09:12 PM) QUOTE (deadwing2112 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:37 PM) QUOTE (BillBuckner @ Feb 14 2007, 05:24 PM) Those guys are so overrated. : Not that much overated. overhated not overrated You called it, Tangdog!!! They look skinny to me, the whole bunch.

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (tick @ Feb 19 2007, 08:35 AM)

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Feb 18 2007, 04:36 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Feb 18 2007, 12:35 PM) thankfully living where i do,  this cant happen for me, theres to many venues i could see them both at so if rush and dream theater both played connecticut on the same night id go to see the other one in new york. you didnt think i would ever answer that question did you ? I also expected you to READ the question. It clearly states you can only go to ONE concert this year. DUH. I know you can't type, but I thought you could at least READ.   Now answer the question the right way. LISTEN, HAIR FOOT NECRO ! i wont answer because this is a rush board and i wont suffer the concequences of my answer, but ive seen rush 35 times and dream theater once so you may draw your own conclusion.     "HAIR FOOT NECRO ! " Listen up... HAIRFOOT was GOOBER's nickname. NOT mine.   Glad you liked it so much though.

[mortkort]

this vid is so awesome:

 

 

[deadwing2112]

Has anyone noticed that John Petrucci is absolutly ripped?

[Hatchetaxe&saw]

Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out.

Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details

Edited February 22, 2007 by Hatchetaxe&saw

[prog.fusion]

QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM)

Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details

if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.

 

 

 

even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater.

[Roddy]

QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!!

[Hatchetaxe&saw]

QUOTE (Roddy @ Feb 22 2007, 02:11 PM)

QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!! If it's like 6DOIT or ToT then I'll be one very happy camper!

[treeduck]

I heard the release date was June 4th, in the UK anyway...

 

 

[the masked drummer]

QUOTE (Roddy @ Feb 22 2007, 09:11 AM)

QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!! I think what it comes down to is DT are sick of other bands and the media labeling them as wussie, arrogant nerds. They wanna show they can rock hard, which is fine with me!!!

[deadwing2112]

QUOTE (the_masked_drummer @ Feb 23 2007, 07:01 AM)

QUOTE (Roddy @ Feb 22 2007, 09:11 AM) QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!! I think what it comes down to is DT are sick of other bands and the media labeling them as wussie, arrogant nerds. They wanna show they can rock hard, which is fine with me!!! I hope its heavy. But not like Train of Thought. ToT bored me.

[priest_of_syrinx]

QUOTE (deadwing2112 @ Feb 23 2007, 10:27 PM)

QUOTE (the_masked_drummer @ Feb 23 2007, 07:01 AM) QUOTE (Roddy @ Feb 22 2007, 09:11 AM) QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!! I think what it comes down to is DT are sick of other bands and the media labeling them as wussie, arrogant nerds. They wanna show they can rock hard, which is fine with me!!! I hope its heavy. But not like Train of Thought. ToT bored me. Bored by Train of Thought? Wow, that album holds my attention very well. Endless Sacrifice is pretty tough to be bored by with all the random sound effects at about 6:28 and the awesome riffs and solos... In the Name of God has that crazy unison solo with Petrucci and Rudess, This Dying Soul has a totally face-melting intro, and Vacant is beautiful, especially on a good sound system. I guess I just like ToT.

[deadwing2112]

QUOTE (priest_of_syrinx @ Feb 24 2007, 10:35 AM)

QUOTE (deadwing2112 @ Feb 23 2007, 10:27 PM) QUOTE (the_masked_drummer @ Feb 23 2007, 07:01 AM) QUOTE (Roddy @ Feb 22 2007, 09:11 AM) QUOTE (prog.fusion @ Feb 22 2007, 08:33 AM) QUOTE (Hatchetaxe&saw @ Feb 22 2007, 07:58 AM) Track listing for Systematic Chaos is out. Check http://dreamtheater.net/ for details if the clips of the new album Mike had on Eddie Trunks show was stuff from the actual album, and judging by these song titles.....i would put money on this sounding like 6DOIT and TOT.       even if it sounds like FII, ill still be happy. i just need new Theater. Agreed. It's a great alum title, bespeaks of the chaos that is no doubt within. And the song titles are all about war and darkness, so we may be in for another ballsy, heavy shred-fest like ToT!! Which will make me EXTREMELY happy!!!! I think what it comes down to is DT are sick of other bands and the media labeling them as wussie, arrogant nerds. They wanna show they can rock hard, which is fine with me!!! I hope its heavy. But not like Train of Thought. ToT bored me. Bored by Train of Thought? Wow, that album holds my attention very well. Endless Sacrifice is pretty tough to be bored by with all the random sound effects at about 6:28 and the awesome riffs and solos... In the Name of God has that crazy unison solo with Petrucci and Rudess, This Dying Soul has a totally face-melting intro, and Vacant is beautiful, especially on a good sound system. I guess I just like ToT. I just get bored listening to it about 3 minutes into each song.

[Snowman]

Clipped from Melodicrock.com

 

FIRST INSIGHT INTO THE NEW DREAM THEATER ALBUM!:

One of the companies I work closely with is re-issue label Rock Candy Records. The label is run by the legendary journalist and A&R duo of Derek Oliver & Dante Bonutto, who are also now working in conjunction with Roadrunner Records to bring new releases from classic bands to the market place.

Their first signing is Dream Theater, as announced a month or so ago. Of course the guys are very familiar with the band, having signed them to Elektra all those years ago.

Dream Theater have just turned in their new album Systematic Chaos to their label, and Derek Oliver was kind enough to forward me his thoughts on the album after living with it for a while and gave me the ok to run this as your exclusive first look into the album from someone who has a long and lasting passion for the band.

 

Says Derek:

"Systematic Chaos is pretty full-on. You'll all be very surprised. It's undoubtedly the best record that they've recorded in many years - very accessible, very heavy and very melodic. They've managed to combine a sense of the past with the future and, unlike Rush, haven't dumped their glorious past in favour of annoying skinny tie affectations or garage rock pretence.

There are two absolutely killer tracks, Constant Motion and The Dark Eternal Night, the former is like Metallica with keyboards and the latter showcases the most intense and heavy musicianship that they've ever recorded - think Pantera jamming with Iron Maiden. Those tracks will be regarded as master classes in progressive metal for years to come. And they both boast lashings of melody.

The most accessible track is titled Forsaken, a blindingly obvious radio song that mixes contemporary modern rock ala Evanescence with the old school power balladry of Queensryche's Silent Lucidity whilst still packing a progressive rock punch. Do I smell a potential radio smash? Quite possibly.

Surprise contenders for classic status include Repentance, a brooding 10 minute creepy crawler that seeps its way into one's inner psyche from the first few seconds of playback. The impact of this track is enhanced by an abundance of unexpected spoken word contributions from a number of well known musicians. I won't spoil it by revealing exactly who they are as its a lot of fun trying to decipher for yourself. Musically think Pink Floyd duetting with Metallica on a decidedly trippy space rock epic.

The other major surprise is Prophet's Of War a magnetic and compelling six minute romp that appears to be a combination of electro pop and classic arena metal and it works brilliantly. Imagine walking into a Berlin discotechque at 2 in the morning with 2,000 nutters jumping up and down to a wild electro mash-up of the Prodigy, Queen, Robbie Williams, Metallica and Ramstein whilst Dita Von Teese dances in a cage.

Trad DT faire is offered up with The Ministry Of Lost Souls. Initially a piano driven ballad which builds into a colossal prog rock hoedown allowing Jordan Rudess to utilise every keyboard that he's acquired through the ages amongst a cacophony of wild jamming. Once the battle has been won, its all back to the main theme for a piping hot cup of cocoa and bed.

The 25 minute epic In The Presence Of Enemies is indeed a pleasure to experience. Split into two parts, which bookend the album, the vibe here is dark and distant. The song is driven by a particularly impressive bass riff and a full, open chorus with evil lyrics delivered convincingly by a more assured and focussed James LaBrie. Then, in the blink of an eye, it all kicks off as Portnoy jumps in with double kick drums thumping at an alarming speed and its heads down for the final push with swords, guitars, knives and keyboards re-enacting the Charge Of The Light Brigade.

 

Man of the match? Impossible to say as all of them are at the top of their game on this one. Portnoy? Well, he's just being Portnoy - crucially the most accomplished drummer of modern times.

Petrucci? He's off his head on virtually every track delivering the heaviest riffs this side of Black Sabbath and the fastest most precise plank spanking I've ever heard.

Myung? The guys doesn't have much to say for himself in interviews but his playing on this record speaks a thousand words.

Rudess? Possibly the bastard child of Keith Emerson and Rachmaninov. His playing is historic and, understandably, quite perplexing.

LaBrie? I have great pleasure in announcing that he, out of them all, has risen most magnificently to the challenge. Its clear that he's taking this particular moment in the bands career to up his game considerably, approaching each track with an intelligence that belies his previous output. By adapting his delivery to suit the mood of each song this fine fellow has breathed new life into an old frame. A great and significant accomplishment.

I came away from this album thinking that - and I'm not taking a pot shot here - if Iron Maiden and Metallica were currently writing and performing to this level of excellence then the world of rock would indeed be a far better place."

 

Sounds promising , but I didnt like what the dude wrote about Rush!

[the masked drummer]

QUOTE (Snowman @ Feb 28 2007, 11:58 AM)

Clipped from Melodicrock.com FIRST INSIGHT INTO THE NEW DREAM THEATER ALBUM!: ......f rock would indeed be a far better place." Sounds promising , but I didnt like what the dude wrote about Rush!

Well, people have been talking behind the scenes about how Rush somehow "lost their edge" so to speak, since the mid-80's. For whatever it's worth, I hope the new album will negate this perception.

I can't wait for the new DT, either! I seriously would like to see DT get another hit, just because they've worked so hard for so many years and their album sales, while respectable, are not what they should be. They deserve a break imho.

[Snowman]

Well, those dudes are biased and are probably only fans of Rush first album anyway. I dont pay attention to those peoples ramblings! Imagine, Rush lost the plot after Moving Pictures...... I laugh myself to deth.