JohnRogers Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Some "magazine" interviewed Lars about hard rock being out of the mainstream. Now back in the day Metallica was heavy metal, thrash metal in the early years. Quote it definitely feels like what we're doing in hard rock in general is connecting with a lot of people. But in terms of the zeitgeist and overall mainstream culture, it doesn't feel like we're as much a part of the mainstream conversation as it has been in the past. There was a time I thought Master of Puppets was the greatest rock song of all time. I'm more Hero of the Day now. As one matures, becomes more seasoned, you realize you can't live by metal alone. You need some Captain and Tennille in your diet. Now I'm not expecting Metallica do do Bon Jovi or Night Ranger but... What are Metallica's best Night Ranger or Dokken type songs? https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/lars_ulrich_on_hard_rock_it_doesnt_feel_like_were_a_part_of_the_mainstream_the_way_we_were_in_the_past.html Edited October 12, 2023 by JohnRogers
Nova Carmina Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 If I understand the premise correctly, we're looking for something guitar heavy, but not in a chord-crunching, pounding way, something more melodic with a centerpeice guitar solo, so it'd have to be some latter-day Metallica, probably from Load on . . . In fact, I think "Hero of the Day" is a pretty good choice. My recall of that era is dodgy. 1
J2112YYZ Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, goose said: Nothing Else Matters? Yeah, I always thought that song was a better fit for a cheesy 80s hair band than it was for Metallica. 1
JohnRogers Posted October 13, 2023 Author Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, goose said: Nothing Else Matters? Fade to Black? Mama Said? My Friend of Misery? No Leaf Clover, possibly the band's best song ever! This is the good stuff! Edited October 13, 2023 by JohnRogers
treeduck Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Is this a heavy metal thread? Should I be interested? 1
BastillePark Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, treeduck said: Is this a heavy metal thread? Should I be interested? Is this a heavy metal song?
treeduck Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, BastillePark said: Is this a heavy metal song? 1
J2112YYZ Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 5 hours ago, JohnRogers said: Fade to Black? Mama Said? My Friend of Misery? No Leaf Clover, possibly the band's best song ever! This is the good stuff! The only song Night Ranger could probably pull off properly here is Mama Said and that song is trash.
stoopid Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Starting with the black album they slowed the bpm of most tracks and even wandered intentionally into the hard rock side from time to time. There's some good examples posted already. There would be an equally long list of "heavy" as "non-heavy" tracks since 1991. 2
grep Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 The thing is that Night Ranger stuff is pretty upbeat and happy. Metallica's stuff is not. Not even close. I'm gonna' go with Fuel from Re-Load. Think it's most translatable to Night Rangers themes and sound. 2
JohnRogers Posted October 16, 2023 Author Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 5:32 PM, BastillePark said: Is this a heavy metal song? On 10/13/2023 at 9:12 PM, J2112YYZ said: The only song Night Ranger could probably pull off properly here is Mama Said and that song is trash. I listened to that recently, which is to say reacquainted myself with it. I like it, I like it as a one off or occasional dabble. I would be disappointed if Mama Said became the new Metallica sound. I'm still more metal than Tony. 1 1
BastillePark Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, JohnRogers said: I listened to that recently, which is to say reacquainted myself with it. I like it, I like it as a one off or occasional dabble. I would be disappointed if Mama Said became the new Metallica sound. I'm still more metal than Tony. Who here can lay claim to none more metal? 1
TheAccountant Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 3:20 PM, Segue Myles said: I way prefer Night Ranger and Dokken totally agree - wish I could hit the like button multiple times in response to that comment. 1 1
J2112YYZ Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 3:43 PM, BastillePark said: Who here can lay claim to none more metal? Me, treeduck and Segue. 1
grep Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 So, what Night Ranger songs do we think would sound great Metallica-fied? I'll start Sister Christian. In a minor key and in Drop D.... 1
Segue Myles Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 2:41 AM, J2112YYZ said: Me, treeduck and Segue. Definitely, even with my diverse tastes, no one can dispute my committed relationship with many forms of metal
laughedatbytime Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 3:43 PM, BastillePark said: Who here can lay claim to none more metal? On 10/20/2023 at 3:44 PM, grep said: So, what Night Ranger songs do we think would sound great Metallica-fied? I'll start Sister Christian. In a minor key and in Drop D.... This is the saddest of all possible threads. 1 3
JohnRogers Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, laughedatbytime said: This is the saddest of all possible threads. Why? I see no misleading recipes for Chicago style casserole or Dan Marino revisionist history. Just cool people discussing cranking rock and or roll. 1 1
grep Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnRogers said: Why? I see no misleading recipes for Chicago style casserole or Dan Marino revisionist history. Just cool people discussing cranking rock and or roll. Who would do Chicago's "Your're the Inspiration" better? Night Ranger or Metalllica?
JohnRogers Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, grep said: Who would do Chicago's "Your're the Inspiration" better? Night Ranger or Metalllica? Where in the song would James Hetfield drop his deep throated “yeah-yeah”?
laughedatbytime Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, JohnRogers said: Why? I see no misleading recipes for Chicago style casserole or Dan Marino revisionist history. Just cool people discussing cranking rock and or roll. It just got even sadder. The only thing that could bring it down further is some Van Hagar.
grep Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, laughedatbytime said: It just got even sadder. The only thing that could bring it down further is some Van Hagar. Which would you rather hear? Night Ranger or Metallica covering "Why Can't This Be Love". 1
JohnRogers Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, grep said: Which would you rather hear? Night Ranger or Metallica covering "Why Can't This Be Love". Where in the song would James Hetfield drop his deep throated “yeah-yeah”?
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