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#61 treeduck

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:37 PM

OMG it's 12 months older than it was last year! Another year has gone by what are we going to do??? Make up a lame excuse for a party?? YEAHHHH! Let's par-tey!

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:00 PM

Definitely 1 of the best 80's albums ever recorded.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

View PostFordgalaxy, on 01 January 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

Definitely 1 of the best 80's albums ever recorded.
The best that was recorded in the 70s.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:19 AM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

View PostFordgalaxy, on 01 January 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

Definitely 1 of the best 80's albums ever recorded.
The best that was recorded in the 70s.
Sounds Great!


Less filler!

Edited by goose, 02 January 2018 - 12:20 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:17 AM

I suppose being pedandtic if 2000 was technically the last year of the 20th century then 1980 was the last year of the 70s....


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:41 AM

Lucky to hear this as my introduction to Rush on Christmas Eve 1979.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:48 AM

View PostLurkst, on 02 January 2018 - 06:17 AM, said:

I suppose being pedandtic if 2000 was technically the last year of the 20th century then 1980 was the last year of the 70s....
Not quite, but I like the sentiment!  :ebert:

#68 Rick N. Backer

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:50 AM

View Posttas7, on 02 January 2018 - 06:41 AM, said:

Lucky to hear this as my introduction to Rush on Christmas Eve 1979.

It was the first album I heard as well.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:50 AM

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View Posttas7, on 02 January 2018 - 06:41 AM, said:

Lucky to hear this as my introduction to Rush on Christmas Eve 1979.

It was the first album I heard as well.
I heard it through a 10,000w P.A. system at The Floral hall, Southport UK at one of the many rock nights with Phil Easton.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:55 AM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

A perfect album to start the 80’s!

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:02 PM

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View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

A perfect album to start the 80’s!
True for the average radio listeners but Permanent Waves was the last album of the 1970’s a fact that can’t be denied.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:07 PM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 03 January 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

A perfect album to start the 80’s!
True for the average radio listeners but Permanent Waves was the last album of the 1970’s a fact that can’t be denied.
Sure it can. It's a fact that an album is dated by it's release date. In the case of Permanent Waves, it was January 1st (or maybe even later based on recently discovered information). Find anyone in that part of the music business or send an email to Billboard and they'll tell you. It's not like religion where people think their beliefs outweigh science. It really shouldn't be too hard to figure out but for many, it seems to be.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:21 PM

View PostFordgalaxy, on 03 January 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 03 January 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

A perfect album to start the 80’s!
True for the average radio listeners but Permanent Waves was the last album of the 1970’s a fact that can’t be denied.
Sure it can. It's a fact that an album is dated by it's release date. In the case of Permanent Waves, it was January 1st (or maybe even later based on recently discovered information). Find anyone in that part of the music business or send an email to Billboard and they'll tell you. It's not like religion where people think their beliefs outweigh science. It really shouldn't be too hard to figure out but for many, it seems to be.
Don’t make me bring out the shrink wrap again.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 04:34 PM

View PostFordgalaxy, on 03 January 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

View PostTexas King, on 03 January 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

A perfect album to finish the 70’s.

A perfect album to start the 80’s!
True for the average radio listeners but Permanent Waves was the last album of the 1970’s a fact that can’t be denied.
Sure it can. It's a fact that an album is dated by it's release date. In the case of Permanent Waves, it was January 1st (or maybe even later based on recently discovered information). Find anyone in that part of the music business or send an email to Billboard and they'll tell you. It's not like religion where people think their beliefs outweigh science. It really shouldn't be too hard to figure out but for many, it seems to be.

I think the problem is that with the possible exception of Caress of Steel, all of the band's 70's output was, at a minimum, good.  The majority of their 80's output is not, and some of it (cough, HYF) is their low water mark.  So for some people, regardless of the date it was released, they want Permanent Waves to be grouped with the band's best work.

For me, I like to think that Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures and Signals saved the decade for the band.  Which was no easy task as the decade wore on.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 04:48 PM

These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed.

Songs written in the 1970’s

Songs recorded in the 1979

The album was produced and mixed in 1979

The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979

The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979

Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979

These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:58 PM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 04:48 PM, said:

These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed.

Songs written in the 1970’s

Songs recorded in the 1979

The album was produced and mixed in 1979

The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979

The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979

Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979

These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
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Edited by laughedatbytime, 03 January 2018 - 09:01 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:40 PM

A thought experiment... Big Star's Third (aka, Alex Chilton's Sister Lovers) was recorded in 1974 but not released because of label disinterest (convinced of its lack of commercial appeal). Another label acquired the tapes and released it in 1978, without the involvement of either the band or producer. It picked the songs to include, of the many recorded, leaving some out, and the song order. Other "unofficial" versions would follow over the years with still different songs and song orders. Eventually, an "official" version was released in 1992, with the original producer's involvement, and supposedly Alex Chilton's approval, that is claimed to have captured the vision the band had had for the album, which the earlier releases had, to greater or lesser extents, failed to capture.

So... for those who insist PeW is an '80s album, is Big Star's Third, recorded in 1974, a '90s album, as it's first official release was 1992? Say the tapes had sat for another two years and the first unofficial release was 1980 instead of 1978; would that make it at earliest an '80s album by any logic?

Personally, I think the torturous history of Big Star's 3rd shows that the decade of an album has to be defined by that in which it was recorded, otherwise, you can be left with a ridiculous assertion that this Velvet Underground-inspired '70s masterpiece is a '90s album because that's when it was first officially released.

Edited by Rutlefan, 04 January 2018 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:18 PM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 04:48 PM, said:

These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed.

Songs written in the 1970’s

Songs recorded in the 1979

The album was produced and mixed in 1979

The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979

The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979

Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979

These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
So you are saying the science is settled?

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 05:25 PM

View PostPound of Obscure, on 04 January 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 03 January 2018 - 04:48 PM, said:

These are facts about Permanent Waves, they can not be disputed.

Songs written in the 1970’s

Songs recorded in the 1979

The album was produced and mixed in 1979

The album was pressed into vinyl in 1979

The album was boxed, put on pallets and shrink wrapped in 1979

Tracks from the album were played on radio in December of 1979

These are facts that settle the case, Permanent Waves is a 70’s album. Anybody suggesting something is else is a Permanent Waves Denier that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
So you are saying the science is settled?
On Permanent Waves? Yes.

I’m currently working on a theory that Ron Moore’s Battlestar Galactica was just a nightmare of Dirk Benedict’s Starbuck. While he was marooned on a desolate planet in the last episode of Galactica 1980.




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