g under p Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 You said that better than me that's about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Someone's going to have to explain this echo chamber of "S&A has no melody" to me... Or at the very least provide some examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Oak Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Its definitely a middle of the road album for me. I love Spindrift, Far Cry, Bravest Face and the instrumentals. The others are between decent and whatever. I do hate faithless though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 To me, Snakes has melodies, but few if them are really "ear-catching". I mean, I can remember how most of the songs go, but none of them really stand to me melodically... somewhat ironically an instrumental, TMMB, is the most memorable song on there. Couple this with the fact that some of the songs are REALLY bad (Bravest Face, Good News First, etc.) and only a few are much more than "very good" (Armor and Sword, Main Monkey Business, Way The Wind Blows), and you have quite a tedious listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Snakes & Arrows is not a bad album but there are no melodies, nyances and "touching moments". It's repetitive and heavy and all songs are just the same musical meatloaf. It suffers from the same "feel" as Vapor Trails. Clockwork Angels is a HUGE improvement. Actually it's amazing how much better CA is... now that is a FANTASTIC album. CA brought back the melodies, keyboards/strings and I love it. Snakes has no melodies?? I feel like CA is lacking far more in the melody department lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) There's melodies.......it's INSANELY wrong to say there are none. Just not immediately graspable. I've found them......and granted while not as strong they are there. And there are good songs on here. Unlike VT which is an enormous pile of shit. ahhh. My daily VT bashing.......i feel good, lol Mick Edited January 18, 2015 by bluefox4000 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerofthor Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Its one of the most uneven albums I've ever heard. Even midsong, some of the parts are OK, but then they're followed by cringeworthy vocal melodies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Awww. Are you guys hearing the music as me?? I think y'all are nuts, S&A is one of the best sounding, most melodically solid cds of this era. No accounting for taste I guess. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A.Well, at least it might keep you from posting more spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) This thread makes me want to listen to S&A.Well, at least it might keep you from posting more spam. It might produce 13 spam posts in "rush song you're currently listening to", or even more if I felt like repeating some of the lyrics in TOST. also: http://niceme.me Edited January 19, 2015 by Mr. Not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyta Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I remember when I first joined TRF, many were saying how they didn't like S&A, with the overemphasis on atheism etc. So I didn't listen to it until a couple of years later. I actually prefer the S&A live album and I did like the making of S&A video I found on Youtube around that same time. Far Cry/Working them Angels are the best with the Monkey Business/Mal Nar instrumentals too. Just IMHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 There's melodies.......it's INSANELY wrong to say there are none. Just not immediately graspable. I've found them......and granted while not as strong they are there. And there are good songs on here. Unlike VT which is an enormous pile of shit. ahhh. My daily VT bashing.......i feel good, lol Mick No way man, it's a bleeding deep personal album to me, the Remix is pretty good but I have to be honest I dig the original. Call me crazy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjnev Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Well first off I wasn't too happy with VT....and SnA was a super dissapointment also. All their new material from the year 2000 onward just bores me to tears.Alex doesn't play clean and dynamic anymore. He just strums and yucks it up. And plays some discordant accompaniment while Geddy Yodels. Alex basically plays a sustained A chord on MalNar and I watched in amazement as people flipped over it . I am happy for their newfound success and RRHOF.The Documentary and stuff. I LOVE that people have gotten a insight to my favorite band of the last three decades.The band I was always talking to them about . but to me it came at a time they recorded their worse music. They are super smart fellows and knew exactly how to accomplish what they needed to do after the year 2000 and they got it done in spades. I will give them that. To me the Pro Tools effects on CwA's sound thin and cheesy . But that is a argument I have with all new music. Old fogey rant now in standby mode. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerofthor Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I hate to say it, but a lot of their songwriting seems to be dependant on the playing.And lately, primarily S&A and CA, they aren't setting the world on fire, especially Neil. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Compass Count:North: 0East: 7South: 0West: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 When one describes a Rush song as "atheistic, condescending, preachy, lacking meldoy"... I only picture Faithless (hold the melody bit) and BU2B (holy the melody bit for the bridge). Faithless has pretty bad lyrics, but at least he music is good unlike in BU2B. "I will quietly resist"? Can you explain why you're trying to write an atheist's anthem, then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 When one describes a Rush song as "atheistic, condescending, preachy, lacking meldoy"... I only picture Faithless (hold the melody bit) and BU2B (holy the melody bit for the bridge). Faithless has pretty bad lyrics, but at least he music is good unlike in BU2B. "I will quietly resist"? Can you explain why you're trying to write an atheist's anthem, then? BU2B has the most whiny lyrics i have ever heard. Neil Is just moaning way to much, lol. Yes you hate religion......NOW SHUT UP!!!!!!!!! lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed somethingYou didn't. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Neil should have stopped writing lyrics after Far Cry. What's wrong with this album? Where to start... Preachy, repetitive lyrics Non melodic boring songs Other than that, it's not that horrible. Thank God they didn't go out with that turd and returned to classic form with CA, their best work since 1984.If they had we wouldn't have felt so bad as most of us would have known that the time had indeed arrived for them to call it a day. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed somethingYou didn't. ;)I thought I was missing something too, so I listened to it over and over and over. Six songs are okay - you can keep the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed somethingYou didn't. ;)I thought I was missing something too, so I listened to it over and over and over. Six songs are okay - you can keep the rest. Which songs is it you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed somethingYou didn't. ;)I thought I was missing something too, so I listened to it over and over and over. Six songs are okay - you can keep the rest. Which songs is it you like? Far CryArmor and SwordWorkin Them AngelsSpindrft (thanks to Alex and that most hauntingly beautiful guitar part that begins at 2:39)Hope We Hold On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 This thread makes me want to listen to S&A. Me too maybe I missed somethingYou didn't. ;)I thought I was missing something too, so I listened to it over and over and over. Six songs are okay - you can keep the rest. Which songs is it you like? Far CryArmor and SwordWorkin Them AngelsSpindrft (thanks to Alex and that most hauntingly beautiful guitar part that begins at 2:39)Hope We Hold On Spindrift? Thats a surprise, most people hate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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