Maverick Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (In A Tidewater Surge @ May 24 2011, 10:00 PM) Silas, your mother was a drunk, wasn't she? WTF does that have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 >mfw colinfledge's epic post >mfw no one will be able to come up with a well-constructed, logical response to it http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn207/Xanadu93/dashitsbeautiful.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 also, http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn207/Xanadu93/rapcansideredDERP.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In A Tidewater Surge Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Brotip: learn how to spell, it's not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 That helps, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadude69 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (trenken @ May 24 2011, 03:06 PM) He's another one of those ignorant dopes that doesnt think there's any skill involved in creating rap. It is not easier to write a truly great rap song, regardless of what anyone ever thinks. Its the same as rock. Its pretty easier to put together some piece of shit rock song, much hard to write a great one. Exact same thing in rap. He's probably just a racist that hates anyone different than him, one of these tools that thinks rock is the only thing that deserves respect. I am not an "ignorant dope" or a "racist" so stop with the assumptions. As a guitarist and someone who listens to rock music, I know its hard to write a good rock song. I am sure it is also hard to write a good rap song. But if you pull your fat head out of your ass trenken, I am sure you will see the difference in what goes into a rock song and what goes into a rap song. I never said that it takes no skill to write a rap song. It does take skill to write a good rap song. I was saying that there are a lot more actual musical elements that come into play when writing a rock song like multiple instruments, vocal melody, and structure. you as a musician should know. I am not saying rock music is better because it is more complex than rap, I am saying that rock songs are generally harder to write because there are more elements to a rock song. No one can say a certain genre of music is better than another, its all a matter of what you like personally. Edited May 25, 2011 by Xanadude69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 i can completely accept that good rap (which perhaps is an oxymoron) can be difficult to create and takes skill, even musical skill... ... but I still hate it. For many of us it's a trend that should have had a short life span, but somehow got out of control and has been relentlessly pummeled into us since the early 80's. Any bitching we do about rap will never equal how obnoxious it's been to us for literally decades now. Inescapable and tortuous. But live and let live. If you like it, you're more than entitled, and obviously no one's criticisms should alter what you like. At the end of the day people have to go home and listen to what makes them happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (Silas Lang @ May 24 2011, 06:48 PM) If rap used real instruments, there would be real bands which means there would be real musicians who would have got bored with the guy up front shouting bad poetry a long time ago and moved on to real music. Rap has the same relationship to music that feces has to food. Everything worthwhile has been removed and what's left over stinks. But of course, it's just a matter of taste, right? I like music, not non-stop talking over a simple repetitive beat. Hey Lang! I think it's time for you to "CHECK YOUR HEAD!" Why all the bad "rap" about The Beastie Boys then? Sure they started out as just rappers but eventually evolved into real musicians. They are an awesome "rap band!" SABOTAGE! Time for some Tone Loc. Signed, "Funky Cold Medina" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (thizzellewashington @ May 24 2011, 04:29 PM) Nothing I don't like can be considered "music." Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I just hope this thread somehow leads to a huge argument that goes offline and onto the street and results in the painful death of the jungle book boy fledgehog...well certainly a good beating for him anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Brotip: Bro it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenken Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (Silas Lang @ May 24 2011, 08:48 PM) If rap used real instruments, there would be real bands which means there would be real musicians who would have got bored with the guy up front shouting bad poetry a long time ago and moved on to real music. Rap has the same relationship to music that feces has to food. Everything worthwhile has been removed and what's left over stinks. But of course, it's just a matter of taste, right? I like music, not non-stop talking over a simple repetitive beat. Some rappers use real instruments in the studio genius. Dont talk down on something you obviously dont know about. Its kind of the in thing now for rappers to use real instruments, and even have their own permanent bands. Many of them are getting away from DJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostworks Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (trenken @ May 25 2011, 02:03 PM) ...its kind of the in thing now for rappers to use real instruments, and even have their own permanent bands. Many of them are getting away from DJs. ^ and that shouldn't be taken as a knock against DJ's as musicians (of which many of them are) Edited May 25, 2011 by ghostworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadude69 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 QUOTE (ghostworks @ May 25 2011, 02:14 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ May 25 2011, 02:03 PM) ...its kind of the in thing now for rappers to use real instruments, and even have their own permanent bands. Many of them are getting away from DJs. ^ and that shouldn't be taken as a knock against DJ's as musicians (of which many of them are) Thats true. I have heard some really cool stuff put together by a DJ. But i have heard some crap stuff too. In the early days they did use real instruments in rap,(some modern artists still do, but its rare) and it sounded pretty good. They had to out of necessity because the technology didn't allow them to do certain things. It sounded better than today's mainstream stuff that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbo Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I love Kanye West. I wouldn't mind if he interrupted me. Or interrupted Taylor Swift again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAccountant Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Went with the rap sucks option. Did not even have to think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate2112 Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I can tell ya first hand that rap IS music even though I hate it. The drum beats are actually an electronic drumset(an actual real set, not just computer programmed) and they record it into a computer then they rap ovr it. I make Progressive Techno music and all my music comes from my piano... I was having an argument on rap vs funeral doom. He says rap is all about emotion. I say rap is all about sex, girs, drinking and getting high all the time. He says Funeral Doom is just deep death growls(actually he said all metal is like that...NOT TRUE!) and slow beats. Obviosly he hasn't heard of The March and the Stream... Here is Eminem's "We Made You" Guess who? Did you miss me? Jessica Simpson, sing the chorus! [Chorus] When you walked through the door, it was clear to me (Clear to me!) You're the one who they adore, who they came to see (Who they came to see!) You're a rockstar (Baby!) Everybody wants you (Everybody wants you) Player! Who could really blame you? (Who could really blame you?) We're the ones who made you! [Verse 1] Back by popular demand Now pop a little Zantax or antacid if you can You're ready to tackle any task that is at hand How does it feel: Is it fantastic, is it grand? Well look at all the massive masses in the stands Shady man, no, don't massacre the fans Damn, I think Kim Kardashian's a man She stomped him, just 'cause he asked to put his hands On her massive, gluteus maximus again Squeeze it and squash it and pass it to a friend Can he come back as nasty as he can? Yes he can, Cam, don't ask me this again He does not mean to lesbian offend But Lindsay, please come back to seein' men Samantha's a two, you're practically a ten I know you want me girl, in fact I see ya grin Now come in girl! [Chorus] [Verse 2] The enforcer, look at the more women to torture Walk up to the cutest girl and Charlie-horse her Sorry Portia, but what's Ellen DeGeneres Have that I don't? Are you tellin' me tenderness? Well I could be as gentle and as smooth as a gentleman Give me my Ventolin inhaler and two Xenadrine And I'll invite Sarah Palin out to dinner then Nail her, maybe say, "Hello to my little friend" Brit, forget K-Fed, let's cut out the middleman Forget him or you'll end up in the hospital again And this time it won't be for the Ritalin binge Forget them other men, girl pay them little attention And little did I mention that Jennifer's in love with me John Mayer, so sit on the bench Man, I swear them other guys you give 'em an inch They take a mile, they got style, but it isn't Slim [Chorus] And that's why, my love, you never live without I know you want me girl 'Cause I can see you checkin' me out And baby, you know, you know you want me too Don't try to deny it, baby, I'm the only one for you [Verse 3] Damn girl, I'm beginning to sprout then Alfalfa Why should I wash my filthy mouth out? You think that's bad, you should hear the rest of my album Never has their been such finesse and nostalgia Man Cash, I don't mean to mess with ya gal but Jessica Alba, put a breast in my mouth, bruh Wowzers! I just made a mess in my trousers And they wonder why I keep dressing like Elvis Lord help us, he's back and in his pink Alf shirt Lookin' like someone shrinked his outfit I think he's bout to flip, Jessica Rest assured, Superman's here to rescue ya Can you blame me? You're my Amy, I'm your Blake Matter fact, make me a birthday cake With a sawblade in it to make my jailbreak Baby, I think you just met your soulmate Now break it down, girl! [Chorus] [bridge] So baby, baby Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, get down (Baby!) Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, down, down (Baby!) Get down, get down [Talking] Oh Amy! Rehab never looked so good! I can't wait! I'm going back! Haha! Whoo! Dr. Dre 2020 Yeah! And now...here is Skepticism's The March and the Stream... Stream brought words And Stream brought meanings Through it's aether were seen all beings Beauty revealed as cruelty Core of grief as death of desire Stream flow in depth unmatched Crossed a statue with no hearing March came colder than invited Crossed a realm of two endings Stream to a sea had started turning WE MADE YOU MUSIC VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKajqoXTH7k= Skepticism's The March and the Stream... But isn't music just a matter of opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 QUOTE (TheAccountant @ Apr 16 2012, 07:37 PM) Went with the rap sucks option. Did not even have to think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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