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Should Rap be cansidered 'Music'?  

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  1. 1. Should Rap be cansidered 'Music'?

    • Of course, rap is awesome!
      11
    • I guess, even though I don't like rap.
      21
    • Who cares? I hate rap anyways.
      7
    • Rap sucks! It is not music!
      11
    • I'm indifferent.
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QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:12 AM)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 10:58 PM)
QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ May 23 2011, 01:54 AM)
>see fledge mention a TRF rap thread on Facebook
>head to TRF for first time in several days to check it out
>statements in support of rap using logic and firsthand experience
>typical HURR DURR ALL OF IT SUCKS statements
>a few statements by those who simply don't like it


Never change, TRF. Never change.

>my face when greentext

 

http://i54.tinypic.com/2r3k20w.jpg

>hijack?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wvDKAgXSo&t=10m05s

 

http://imageshack.us/m/42/3217/unlednj.png

What is this? I don't even.

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QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 11:15 PM)
QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:12 AM)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 10:58 PM)
QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ May 23 2011, 01:54 AM)
>see fledge mention a TRF rap thread on Facebook
>head to TRF for first time in several days to check it out
>statements in support of rap using logic and firsthand experience
>typical HURR DURR ALL OF IT SUCKS statements
>a few statements by those who simply don't like it


Never change, TRF. Never change.

>my face when greentext

 

http://i54.tinypic.com/2r3k20w.jpg

>hijack?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wvDKAgXSo&t=10m05s

 

http://imageshack.us/m/42/3217/unlednj.png

What is this? I don't even.

The kid is getting molested by his mom and she makes it apparent through several videos on her channel... It's Stephen King status.

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QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ May 23 2011, 01:54 AM)
>see fledge mention a TRF rap thread on Facebook
>head to TRF for first time in several days to check it out
>statements in support of rap using logic and firsthand experience
>typical HURR DURR ALL OF IT SUCKS statements
>a few statements by those who simply don't like it


Never change, TRF. Never change.

Y U SO PRETENTIOUS

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QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:18 AM)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 11:15 PM)
QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:12 AM)
QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 10:58 PM)
QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ May 23 2011, 01:54 AM)
>see fledge mention a TRF rap thread on Facebook
>head to TRF for first time in several days to check it out
>statements in support of rap using logic and firsthand experience
>typical HURR DURR ALL OF IT SUCKS statements
>a few statements by those who simply don't like it


Never change, TRF. Never change.

>my face when greentext

 

http://i54.tinypic.com/2r3k20w.jpg

>hijack?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-wvDKAgXSo&t=10m05s

 

http://imageshack.us/m/42/3217/unlednj.png

What is this? I don't even.

The kid is getting molested by his mom and she makes it apparent through several videos on her channel... It's Stephen King status.

Jesus H. Christ, this is funny. This has turned into the best rap thread on TRF ever.

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QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:24 AM)
Well.. I find it much more disturbing than funny... unsure.gif

I find it funny because, yknow, not many people go out to expose the molestation of their own kid. It's probably like Marble Hornets where it isn't serious. A bit disturbing, sure, but just funny on the whole to me.

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JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN FOOTBALL

 

AEIOU AEIOU AEIOU AEIOU AEIOU AEIOU

 

?!?!?!?

 

I'M LAUGHING FOR REAL RIGHT NOW

 

HERE COMES ANOTHER CHINESE EARTHQUAKE

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QUOTE (Oracle @ May 22 2011, 11:27 PM)
QUOTE (Kenneth @ May 23 2011, 02:24 AM)
Well.. I find it much more disturbing than funny... unsure.gif

I find it funny because, yknow, not many people go out to expose the molestation of their own kid. It's probably like Marble Hornets where it isn't serious. A bit disturbing, sure, but just funny on the whole to me.

I'd like to think that, but MarbleHornets went viral from the get-go while some of these videos* have been around for years.. He's 15 now and there's some footage of when he was 10.. Ugh.. There would be no motive in staging all of this, plus the websites/businesses she runs as well as local news reports she's appeared on.. There's no explaining those..

 

But hey, skepticism can be applied anywhere...

 

 

 

LOL WTF TIM

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QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ May 22 2011, 10:09 PM)
QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ May 22 2011, 01:06 PM)
I don't think so.

ranton.gif Rap sucks! I mean, I don't really care about you talking about your personal life over a fake drum beat with no real instruments! Without instruments, there is no music! You're stupid! rantoff.gif

I might be showing my age here but the old school rap from the late Seventies and Early Eighties is brilliant.

 

Once Public Enema, I mean Enemy came into the stream it was pretty much over for me, although I did enjoy the first Easy Earl, I mean E cd.

 

Liked the NWA shit too.

 

After that forget it.

 

But let's back up a bit.

 

The old school stuff was great.

 

I'm talking about groups like Grandmaster Flash, Sugar Hill Gang, RUN DMC, Whodini, early LL COOL J and of course the Beastie Boys.

 

Rap in the modern age is pure shit.

 

There is no hope for this genre of garbage.

 

Signed,

 

THE KING OF ROCK!

 

 

1022.gif

 

 

Please pick up "Raising Hell" by RUN DMC ASAP!

 

RIP JAM MASTER JAY!

See, this is something else I don't get, and this isn't just about rap. It doesn't make any sense to say that everything new from any particular genre is and always will be terrible. Musicians aren't all connected to some big hive mind. There wasn't some memo that got sent out to everyone 20 years ago telling everyone to STOP BEING GOOD NOW. Out of the thousands and thousands of individuals making music in any genre, it's basically guaranteed that someone somewhere is making something that's as good as the old stuff. That applies to rap, rock, country, jazz, whatever. So next time someone wants to complain about how all the new music sucks, maybe they should consider that the problem isn't the music, it's you wink.gif

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QUOTE (fledgehog @ May 23 2011, 02:34 AM)
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It's crap
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I've never been a fan, but clearly the genre has its fans. I'll likely never be one myself if I'm not one already. I don't hate it, but I don't ever see myself driving around to "dope beats" either. Some of the lyrical schemes are clever, but I'd rather read them than listen to them.

 

If it all dropped off the earth tomorrow it wouldn't impact me one bit.

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As long as it is - 'Jack relax, get busy with the facts...' - I love it - otherwise I feckin' cannot stand it !!!

 

 

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Lol, of course it's music. Some of the better ones are actually skilled, intelligent poets, despite how they look or dress or how you want to judge them. It's not easy to make this stuff fit well within a beat, and still have people be able to move their head to it.

 

You go try and write something like this and tell me this is easy to do.

 

KILLAH PRIEST - One Step

 

Early natives related to throwns of david

Captured by some patriots, and thrown on slave ships

They stripped us naked, while they wives picked they favourite

Lives were wasted, in the hands of the hated

Driven from the garden [garden], now we starvin' in the martyring sodom

They call it harlem, wordly problems got us at the bottom

The earth crisis, and the righteous grab their ice picks

Seekers like us for our rices, I stay in ciphers

Our live is, connected to second son of isaacs, which had a tight grip

On the heels of his brother, revealed to his mother

The elders who served the younger, words heard in thunder

Down from under, rose and fled to grow in hunger, now it's cold in summer

To slow your slumbers, behold a number, 600, 6 and 3 score

The same as he saw, who ate his heat raw, in the time before

They climbed aboard a dinosaur, information held behind the doors

We came from the atmosphere, the physical trapped us here

Then they gave us crack and beer, in the back of the stairs

Please adapt your ears, add or subtract the years, and form the unwise

And watch the sunrise from sunset, none-slep, one flesh, one breath..

Devils morale, they caught us playing with the gold marbles

We wrote novels, now we live life in the bottle, before the devil sold me

To the unholy, because my father told me

I lived like a monks of lowly, lowly, but lowly?

The president just ordered the navy to hit the borders of haiti

Slaughtered babies from the waters of euphrates

Maybe they send germs that polluted our sperm

And made us live with circumcize in the serpent eyes

And told us certain lies, and each day a servant dies

But in the halls of farrow the walls are narrow

And religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom

Now free them, lets feed um', feed um'...

They took the first book of jacob to jamaica

Promised us 40 achers and a mule, treated like an animal

Understand the jewel, brought to the 50 states

Deuteronomy 28, verse 68, it all relates, 1555 is when we first arrived

We tell jokes wish um' get high, and watch the fish fry...

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none of this will likely change any minds, but if you're interested...

 

first off, I'm not a rap/hip hop 'fan', I'm a music fan - I'm coming at the genre from that frame of mind

 

I tend not to like anything on the radio/tv/ads etc that have anything to do with rap - and if that is your sum-total exposure to the genre, I'm not surprised in the least if you 'hate' it

 

one of the first 'off the radar' rap songs that ever stuck with me was Common Sense's 'Take It EZ' - it was a track on a sampler CD that was being handed out to everyone after a club show in '92

 

I had nothing invested in the CD, so I listened to the whole thing on the ride home without any expectations

 

not a single rap/hip hop song or album was in my collection at that time, so I had nothing but pop culture references to judge the song against... and I found I liked it

 

it sounded nothing like the garbage I'd been exposed to on the radio - it was funny (something I really came to appreciate in the genre later), well-produced and addictive... as soon as it was over I wanted to spin it again

 

it didn't hurt that none of my friends (rap/non-rap fans alike) had ever heard of Common Sense - it became my own 'private' track (as a Rush fan for more than a decade in '92, I was used to enjoying music no one else was familiar with)

 

so

 

I realize this is a completely different time/age/experience etc, but - if you can - without expectations, check it out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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