Inthend Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Just some things I noticed. Morpheus' ship - The Nebuchadnezzar (book of Daniel) Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon who had the dream that Daniel interpreted. This dream was the first in a series of dreams that prophesy of coming world empires culminating in a last empire that is "different" from any the world has ever known. The ship's model number is Mark III no.11 This is seen on the plaque also. If you look up Mark 3:11 in the Bible it says "And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, You are the Son of God." Neo is "The One" (same letters btw) that "the oracle" said would come and be able to defeat the "agents". Matrix is an old word for womb. Jesus said to see the kingdom of God you must be born again. And Neo was "born again" after he took the red pill. Then he saw that he had been living a deception, reality began once he was flushed out. Zion - God's holy city Trinity Neo appears to be hanging on a cross at the end of Revolutions. He is the sacrifice that brings peace between man and God? Oh well, that's all I can think of. Maybe eyes crazy. Hope ya'll give me some feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 10 2007, 07:38 AM)I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. I agree with this, "... the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage..." but not this, "... for people who can't handle reality." Yeah, there are religious references throughout the movie. But they're so obvious that it seems cheesy. Then, add ((sarcasm coming )) Keanu's stellar acting and we have 2 films (I didn't see the 3rd) that I can't stand. Of course, I'm not denying that some of the action scenes are fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt2112 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Anyone catch the Powerade advertisements in the third one? I always thought that was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 For many, myself included, The Matrix boils down to simply this: One fantastic movies, and two movies that were nowhere in the same league as the first one even though they still "looked" cool. Yeah, I agree with JB above that the symbolism was pretty obvious. Not really much you can do with that kind of symbolism. It's too bad the first movie wasn't just left alone as is as it's incredibly symbolic of life in many different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think what the SciFi Nerds see as "deep meaning" and profound symbolism boils down to a simple (granted, original) theme: "What if Virtual Reality was reality and reality was illusion?" I'm a geek, but not geeky enough to play that Information Age Mind f**k game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0N Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 First one was good, and has clearly got alot of religious reference, 2nd one wasnt so good, and the 3rd one :\ Only watched it more than once because its a trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingcinderellaman Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I liked them. The sequals were just like most; not as good as the original. But I did like the freeway sequence in the second and the final battle in the last one. Did anyone see "The Thirteenth Floor"? It came out about the same time as the first Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocinanteKid Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 9 2007, 11:38 PM) I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. Too true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 9 2007, 05:38 PM) I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. OK, blue pill - stay in what you understand or red pill - choose something your intellect can't comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 QUOTE (Inthend @ Dec 10 2007, 10:12 PM) QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 9 2007, 05:38 PM) I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. OK, blue pill - stay in what you understand or red pill - choose something your intellect can't comprehend? Yeah, okay. Because a silly Science Fiction movie starring America's worst actor is beyond what my intellect can comprehend. It's way too deep for me. You must be in that camp of computer nerds who see great profundity in this Science Fiction film where little or none exists. Don't get me wrong - some Science Fiction films and books help illuminate great philosophical and social issues - but "The Matrix" only plays with the idea of "what if virtual reality was reality?" That may be an entertaining idea to think about, but it's not profound... unless you're a computer nerd, a stoner, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-D-RocK- Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 First Matrix - great. Second and third - too complex for a simple minded guy like me to understand. I didn't even get through Revolutions, was too lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro2112 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I thought the first movie was great. Great action scenes, very cool premise, and the way the movie was made and filmed was (at that time) groundbreaking. The second and third movies sucked crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Aubrey Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 11 2007, 12:31 PM) QUOTE (Inthend @ Dec 10 2007, 10:12 PM) QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 9 2007, 05:38 PM) I think the Matrix films are pseudo-intellectual garbage for people who can't handle reality. OK, blue pill - stay in what you understand or red pill - choose something your intellect can't comprehend? Yeah, okay. Because a silly Science Fiction movie starring America's worst actor is beyond what my intellect can comprehend. It's way too deep for me. You must be in that camp of computer nerds who see great profundity in this Science Fiction film where little or none exists. Don't get me wrong - some Science Fiction films and books help illuminate great philosophical and social issues - but "The Matrix" only plays with the idea of "what if virtual reality was reality?" That may be an entertaining idea to think about, but it's not profound... unless you're a computer nerd, a stoner, or both. Hey man, that's a really good point. I never thought of it like that. For the record, I liked 'The Matrix', but the sequels were excrement. I also want very much to bitch-slap the Merovingian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 10 2007, 09:24 AM) I think what the SciFi Nerds see as "deep meaning" and profound symbolism boils down to a simple (granted, original) theme: "What if Virtual Reality was reality and reality was illusion?" I'm a geek, but not geeky enough to play that Information Age Mind f**k game. Um, not so original. Isn't this just a twist on the classic allegory of the cave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm memory Chip Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) Hello there, newbie Warm-memory-Chip here, Actually after thinking back an all 3 films, there would be a ton of religious type references and ideas. I sorta get the opposite feel, unless you consider a psuedo computer program that is the supposed savior of a race of moles who eat some sort of synthetic Protien filled Oatmeal and all wear Doc Martins,not to mention look like they live in the background of a really bad 80's Poison video, you know the metal-the warehouse, and sparks, lots of sparks. The funny part is, if those relgious overtones seen in the Matrix are anything revealing of psuedo-religeo nonsense, the Da-Vinci Code didn't have Keanu in it did it? rock on Edited December 16, 2007 by Warm memory Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 QUOTE (Warm memory Chip @ Dec 16 2007, 02:06 AM) Hello there, newbie Warm-memory-Chip here, Actually after thinking back an all 3 films, there would be a ton of religious type references and ideas. I sorta get the opposite feel, unless you consider a psuedo computer program that is the supposed savior of a race of moles who eat some sort of synthetic Protien filled Oatmeal and all wear Doc Martins,not to mention look like they live in the background of a really bad 80's Poison video, you know the metal-the warehouse, and sparks, lots of sparks. The funny part is, if those relgious overtones seen in the Matrix are anything revealing of psuedo-religeo nonsense, the Da-Vinci Code didn't have Keanu in it did it? rock on WMC - cool name from The Body Electric? GraceUP - one of my favs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (goose @ Dec 16 2007, 01:48 AM) QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Dec 10 2007, 09:24 AM) I think what the SciFi Nerds see as "deep meaning" and profound symbolism boils down to a simple (granted, original) theme: "What if Virtual Reality was reality and reality was illusion?" I'm a geek, but not geeky enough to play that Information Age Mind f**k game. Um, not so original. Isn't this just a twist on the classic allegory of the cave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave My interpretation and from a Christian point of view, would be that the material world is the "deception" (the matrix) and the spiritual realm is the real world you can't enter until (edit)you swallow something supernatural. Edited December 20, 2007 by Inthend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeHaste Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 But... I... liked... them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 By the time it got to the fifteen minute underground rave scene in the second Matrix, I was ready to leave. I stuck with it, but it didn't get better. Sadly, I own all three movies because my mom was bad with Colombia House and never canceled shit. I did buy the first one the first day I got a DVD player, but she gave me the others. I think she hates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm memory Chip Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Hello Body Electric~ my screen name, is from Moving Pictures trak-Vital Signs "pause rewind-replay "warm memory chip"-Random sample hold the one you need" Merry Christmas, and happy new-year to all the Rush fans across the lands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (Warm memory Chip @ Dec 20 2007, 10:13 PM) Hello Body Electric~ my screen name, is from Moving Pictures trak-Vital Signs "pause rewind-replay "warm memory chip"-Random sample hold the one you need" Merry Christmas, and happy new-year to all the Rush fans across the lands Of course u're right. Ramdom sample hold the one u need. great song! 3 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users): Inthend, ReRushed, Warm memory Chip:hi: and Merry Christmas!!! Edited December 21, 2007 by Inthend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 The Matrix was a pretty good movie. You can have the sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 (edited) Edited December 21, 2007 by Inthend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthend Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 I was watching Cosmos last night and I realized the "Agent" talks likes Carl Sagan. Just thought you'd like to know Mis ter An der son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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