The K Man Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 DT were a unique thing at that time. Those too young to remember fail to understand the impact they made in moving progressive and metal music forward. In those genres they had as much influence as Rush has in rock music. To hear them phone it in (especially the lyrics, but even the many borrowed licks from prior songs) with The Averageness saddens most of us old enough to recall that time. This is horse shit. I am another who became a fan in 1992/1993, and I think The Astonishing is pretty damn great. No, it's not as great as I&W, Awake or Scenes, but BFD; it doesn't have to be. I'd be hard pressed to think of many bands whose 13th studio album is as good as TA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Stoopid is just shitposting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Lol, why is everyone so worked up in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Lol, why is everyone so worked up in here. Probably because the band released an album that has divided the fanbase like no other in their career. I don't care for the album myself but I've moved on. There's too much good music from DT and other bands to dwell on one bad release. I just hope for the best with their next one which should be out in 2018. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Lol, why is everyone so worked up in here. Probably because the band released an album that has divided the fanbase like no other in their career. I don't care for the album myself but I've moved on. There's too much good music from DT and other bands to dwell on one bad release. I just hope for the best with their next one which should be out in 2018. Gotcha. Love it or hate it either way no need get all fired up, jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Lol, why is everyone so worked up in here. Probably because the band released an album that has divided the fanbase like no other in their career. I don't care for the album myself but I've moved on. There's too much good music from DT and other bands to dwell on one bad release. I just hope for the best with their next one which should be out in 2018. Gotcha. Love it or hate it either way no need get all fired up, jmo I'm definitely not "fired up". Tick on the other hand went from zero to screw you in one post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I'd be hard pressed to think of many bands whose 13th studio album is as good as TA. Whether or not a band survives long enough to make 13 albums doesn't have anything to do with it. I'd rather a band make 4 classic albums than 3 classics and 10 meh. But it's hard to sell and tour these days if you don't have new material to promote. Otherwise you end up being those washed up rockers playing summer festivals and super small venues to the few diehards old enough to remember you. TA is DT's attempt at staying relevant. Edited March 27, 2016 by stoopid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 So TA is an attempt to stay relevant? They have a large fan base. They make a good living. Portnoy knows he will never the level of success DT has ever again. That's why he would go back to them tomorrow if they asked. They won't.The Astonishing got excellent reviews overall and the fan base is buying tickets to hear it live. So people can make baseless claims that the album is a failure but the reality is, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) So TA is an attempt to stay relevant? They have a large fan base. They make a good living. Portnoy knows he will never again have the level of success DT provided him again. That's why he would go back to them tomorrow if they asked. They won't.The Astonishing got excellent reviews overall and the fan base is buying tickets to hear it live. So people can make baseless claims that the album is a failure but the reality is, it isn't. Edited March 27, 2016 by Tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djflex Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I said this before , but ... If nothing else you have to admire them greatly for trying something so ambitious. They could have played it safe and just did another regular release. I like when bands experiment. It keeps me coming back. I like the astonshing , but of course its nowhere near their greatest album ever. One thing ive i always noticed. When bands try something experimental like this, the next release is often a return to their roots and sometimes among there best. Anyways i look forward to the show... Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 How is TA the band's way to stay relevant exactly? I'm not aware of the musical style they play on it being a popular thing currently. I've seen them on every tour over the last ten years and the crowd size has remained consistent. So, they're not doing this to get interest back from a dwindling fanbase. A band tries to stay relevant by following current musical trends. Nowhere on TA are Dream Theater doing that. So, I really don't get that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 These Walls is a fun song. Octavarium itself rules. MickOctavarium the album and the song is probably my personal favorite DT album. Yes, even I Walk Beside You (the closest DT equivalent to something like How It Is) I love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 How is TA the band's way to stay relevant exactly? I'm not aware of the musical style they play on it being a popular thing currently. I've seen them on every tour over the last ten years and the crowd size has remained consistent. So, they're not doing this to get interest back from a dwindling fanbase. A band tries to stay relevant by following current musical trends. Nowhere on TA are Dream Theater doing that. So, I really don't get that statement. Its not only not on trend, it's also lacking a single original idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 These Walls is a fun song. Octavarium itself rules. MickOctavarium the album and the song is probably my personal favorite DT album. Yes, even I Walk Beside You (the closest DT equivalent to something like How It Is) I love. Its a brilliant album! Some songs aren't as good as others, but it's a joy from start to finish! I especially love Sacrificed Sons after These Walls. Beautiful song, and the lyrics are better than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Theres a few hokey bits on Octacarium which brings it down for me. Still from Scenes thru SC is my favorite period of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shail Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 A few hokey bits?! Folks, music is subjective. Your on crack digital dad. Funny. I get it. But you can say hokey and a few hundred adjectives to describe ones taste. Just for shits and giggles. What parts are hokey on Octa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 A few hokey bits?! Folks, music is subjective. Your on crack digital dad. Funny. I get it. But you can say hokey and a few hundred adjectives to describe ones taste. Just for shits and giggles. What parts are hokey on Octa Now I think Octavarium is excellent. I like my least favourite songs a lot. But I do hear Muse on a couple of tracks and U2 on another. And on those tracks (titles escape me, sorry), it is more copy and paste than "inspired by...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Duio Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) A few hokey bits?! Folks, music is subjective. Your on crack digital dad. Funny. I get it. But you can say hokey and a few hundred adjectives to describe ones taste. Just for shits and giggles. What parts are hokey on Octa Now I think Octavarium is excellent. I like my least favourite songs a lot. But I do hear Muse on a couple of tracks and U2 on another. And on those tracks (titles escape me, sorry), it is more copy and paste than "inspired by...". The Muse one has to be Never Enough, and the U2 one is I Walk Beside You. The more I listen to TA the more I like it. "Three Days" and "A New Beginning" are other excellent songs in an ever-growing list of excellent songs from the album. AND I'm going to see it live next month woo hoo, my first DT show!!* *Which will be awesome, but I really want to see them play a regular concert filled with songs across their catalog eventually. Edited March 29, 2016 by Del_Duio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 A few hokey bits?! Folks, music is subjective. Your on crack digital dad. Funny. I get it. But you can say hokey and a few hundred adjectives to describe ones taste. Just for shits and giggles. What parts are hokey on Octa Hahaha! I'm one of the biggest DT Trolls on the planet but even I love all of "Octavarium." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shail Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I am selling my tickets for the show in LA at the Wiltern. If anyone wants to buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 A few hokey bits?! Folks, music is subjective. Your on crack digital dad. Funny. I get it. But you can say hokey and a few hundred adjectives to describe ones taste. Just for shits and giggles. What parts are hokey on Octa Hahaha! I'm one of the biggest DT Trolls on the planet but even I love all of "Octavarium." i like you a little more now Earl :P Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Think anyone will be periscoping the upcoming US tour? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Think anyone will be periscoping the upcoming US tour? It´ll have to be a weightlifter. Holding up a camera for almost three hours straight is not for the ordinary man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Tomorrow night.... :smoke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day of Light Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Since this thread got rez'd: Train of Thought rocks! I'm finding it really nice to listen to, at least compared to some of their other stuff which can be a little bit more, eh, un-musical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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