goose, on 07 July 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:
Geddyleegenes, on 07 July 2019 - 12:12 AM, said:
Since Freddie Gruber was brought up here, I thought I'd add my thoughts. I also think Freddie softened Neil's drumming. I'm certainly no musician, so I can only go by what I hear and what I feel. And what the heck, what I think.
Neil seemed more powerful behind the drums prior to Freddie. I also wonder if the change in technique could possibly have hurt Neil physically. Nope, I certainly don't have any proof to offer. All I have is wonder. Neil would have had a certain physical way of drumming since the first day he picked up a drumstick and struck it down. His arms, hands, shoulders, muscles (etc.) would have "acclimated" (if that's the right word) to that way of drumming for decades.
Is it possible that when Freddie re-taught him how to drum, that Neil's muscles and arms and all that, would have been like, "What the Hell is this sudden change, Neil?" Could that change have really affected him? Is it possible that if Neil hadn't changed his techniques that he may not have suffered such physical pain and had to retire at such a relatively young age? (I still can't imagine what it would be like to have had such incredible talent and love for drumming and then having to just give it all up due to the physical challenge.)
Perhaps some drummers on here would have some personal input on that.
I'd go the other way and say that adopting Freddie's ideas probably prolonged Neil's career. Neil's original hyper-powerful approach of hitting through the drum takes a heavy toll compared to the more finesse-based Gruber approach. I'd guess the physical damage was done early on via Neil's natural pounding style, not later during the jazzy years.
Yes - this is what I was trying to type. You said it perfectly.
I think he went a little too crazy with the Freddie influence on T4E - but then again he seemed inspired- and that’s important in making vital rock music. By VT I think he was playing very very well.
I love old Peart - but live, in the 70s and early 80s, he could be pretty erratic at odd moments - listen to the tempos circa 83/84 from their live shows. Wow!
NP is on fire on Presto - and his drums have that super-tight Copeland sound to them. His drumming on Scars is inspired (Rick Allen maybe?) and groundbreaking.
Aside from their last tour, in which I thought Peart was either WAY done with Rush, or in physical pain, I found Peart to be pretty electrifying. Clockwork Angels especially.
My all time favorite Neil was during the Roll The Bones era. His playing was just perfect on that tour.