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Posted 07 November 2016 - 02:34 PM

To clarify - the earlier post made it sound like Ged and Alex indicated that another Rush album was "potentially in the cards";  However, after listening to their full interview, they didn't say that, and I think they are pretty clear about the direction - that they have received offers, but haven't yet fully concluded who they would play with.  Strombo asks at one point about another album, and Geddy clarifies "outside of Rush". They know what's up (though I would be very curious as to how much correspondence they've had with Neil since Aug 1, 2015.)

Of course, everyone would hope for more Rush work - but I think Neil's words are pretty heartfelt and resolute.  Geddy and Alex know this, and I think they understand his reasoning (they've covered all of the same reasons Neil details in his book; some of which were omitted from the new documentary movie.)  However, they don't feel the same way, so they're in a bind.  But, as stated in the Strombo interview, they're coming to terms with it and beginning to think about post-Rush work.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 07:11 PM

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I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think to say it was more of a business relationship would be an oversimplification, but I think there's more than a grain of truth in this.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 07:24 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.


From everything I've seen and read over the years, my perception of the three guys and their mutual friendship is that it's totally sincere.  I also think that Geddy and Alex are just like countless other "best buddies".  They have their lifelong, since-they-were-kids friendship, and all their other friendships are separate.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

If the band had four or five members, no one would expect them all to be equally best friends.  They have always been three, so it's easier for us to expect them to be a perfect triangle of friends.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 07:45 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.
I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.

On the other hand, as a fan, their friendship isn't what hooked me to them. And it isn't what's kept me a fan either.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 07:52 PM

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I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.


Geddy said on this latest radio interview, "If you care about your bandmate, you just accept it."  He was certainly referring to caring about his friend Neil, and how he should accept that his business partner Neil is calling it quits.  

Way too many fans make stuff up when it comes to the band's personal lives and friendships.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:05 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 07 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.


Geddy said on this latest radio interview, "If you care about your bandmate, you just accept it."  He was certainly referring to caring about his friend Neil, and how he should accept that his business partner Neil is calling it quits.  

Way too many fans make stuff up when it comes to the band's personal lives and friendships.
I agree which is why I included a caveat in my post.  There is a perception that they didn't seem to understand where he was at or was it possible that they just didn't want to accept it?

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:09 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 07 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.


Geddy said on this latest radio interview, "If you care about your bandmate, you just accept it."  He was certainly referring to caring about his friend Neil, and how he should accept that his business partner Neil is calling it quits.  

Way too many fans make stuff up when it comes to the band's personal lives and friendships.
I agree which is why I included a caveat in my post.  There is a perception that they didn't seem to understand where he was at or was it possible that they just didn't want to accept it?
Probably both

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think we all read into their dynamic because we only see certain aspects of the relationships such as in the documentary where they're never on screen together excerpt for the concerts and Peart is running all the way to his bus (really Peart? Running the whole time? Dude's just weird). He admits to being an insular oddball, Alex calls him "stoic"...I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much...will do anything for you but is just...well...f***ing weird. Peart is that weird oddball family member who loves you but will never go out of his way to talk to you. You know: f***ing Weird Uncle Elwood.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:55 PM

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think we all read into their dynamic because we only see certain aspects of the relationships such as in the documentary where they're never on screen together excerpt for the concerts and Peart is running all the way to his bus (really Peart? Running the whole time? Dude's just weird). He admits to being an insular oddball, Alex calls him "stoic"...I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much...will do anything for you but is just...well...f***ing weird. Peart is that weird oddball family member who loves you but will never go out of his way to talk to you. You know: f***ing Weird Uncle Elwood.
Neil is so systematic and calculating that "run back to bus after encore" was probably written on his daily schedule. He probably knew exactly how many running steps it took to get to his bus too. When he got back he sat with his liquor and ciggies and probably smoked and rocked himself back and forth and repeated, "327 steps. 327. 327. Perfect."

Really though, I don't see him as all that weird. His 80s lyrics especially weren't weird at all. In fact, they were down to earth and easy for most of us to identify with. The stuff in the 90s and 21st century...well, whether you liked them or not, there wasn't anything there that was out of left field. Same with his books. Most of them consist of a guy on a road trip looking at rocks and road signs and license plates. Boring maybe but nothing weird.

I kind of think of Neil as the goofy cousin that's quiet at first and sitting in the corner eating pie. However, once you get him talking on a subject he likes, he won't shut up. But he'll speak intelligently on whatever topic it is he likes.

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:02 PM

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When he got back he sat with his liquor and ciggies and probably smoked and rocked himself back and forth and repeated, "327 steps. 327. 327. Perfect."

Oh shit that is GOLD! Killed me!

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:05 PM

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much .....

And yet, when you talk to him about stuff that interests him, he'll talk forever.  Reporters who are about to interview him have been warned in advance: He likes to talk..... :lol:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

However, once you get him talking on a subject he likes, he won't shut up. But he'll speak intelligently on whatever topic it is he likes.

We are on the same page.... :lol:

Edited by Principled Man, 07 November 2016 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:09 PM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think we all read into their dynamic because we only see certain aspects of the relationships such as in the documentary where they're never on screen together excerpt for the concerts and Peart is running all the way to his bus (really Peart? Running the whole time? Dude's just weird). He admits to being an insular oddball, Alex calls him "stoic"...I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much...will do anything for you but is just...well...f***ing weird. Peart is that weird oddball family member who loves you but will never go out of his way to talk to you. You know: f***ing Weird Uncle Elwood.
Neil is so systematic and calculating that "run back to bus after encore" was probably written on his daily schedule. He probably knew exactly how many running steps it took to get to his bus too. When he got back he sat with his liquor and ciggies and probably smoked and rocked himself back and forth and repeated, "327 steps. 327. 327. Perfect."

This is some funny ****

:lol:

There's more laughs in those three sentences than there is in an entire Pablo Francisco show

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:10 PM

View PostLucas, on 07 November 2016 - 09:09 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think we all read into their dynamic because we only see certain aspects of the relationships such as in the documentary where they're never on screen together excerpt for the concerts and Peart is running all the way to his bus (really Peart? Running the whole time? Dude's just weird). He admits to being an insular oddball, Alex calls him "stoic"...I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much...will do anything for you but is just...well...f***ing weird. Peart is that weird oddball family member who loves you but will never go out of his way to talk to you. You know: f***ing Weird Uncle Elwood.
Neil is so systematic and calculating that "run back to bus after encore" was probably written on his daily schedule. He probably knew exactly how many running steps it took to get to his bus too. When he got back he sat with his liquor and ciggies and probably smoked and rocked himself back and forth and repeated, "327 steps. 327. 327. Perfect."

This is some funny ****

:lol:

There's more laughs in those three sentences than there is in an entire Pablo Francisco show
:lol: I'm positive there are! :lol:

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:30 PM

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

I know most people are focused on no touring and no albums but the thing that bothers me is that the perceived friendship between the three of them was more of a business relationship between the two friends and the drummer.  That's disappointing as a fan but must be especially disappointing for Alex and Geddy unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think we all read into their dynamic because we only see certain aspects of the relationships such as in the documentary where they're never on screen together excerpt for the concerts and Peart is running all the way to his bus (really Peart? Running the whole time? Dude's just weird). He admits to being an insular oddball, Alex calls him "stoic"...I think he's that quiet weird family member that just sits there and doesn't talk much...will do anything for you but is just...well...f***ing weird. Peart is that weird oddball family member who loves you but will never go out of his way to talk to you. You know: f***ing Weird Uncle Elwood.

Sheldon Cooper on drums. And Ged and Al are Howard and Leonard.

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Posted 08 November 2016 - 07:05 AM

What I found very interesting was Geddy and Alex talking about their past, how they don't dwell on it, and how other people insist on asking them to talk about their past.

That can be quite annoying.  Always being asked to relive your past.......it's definitely something I would not want to have to endure!

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Posted 08 November 2016 - 09:33 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 07 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.


Geddy said on this latest radio interview, "If you care about your bandmate, you just accept it."  He was certainly referring to caring about his friend Neil, and how he should accept that his business partner Neil is calling it quits.  

Way too many fans make stuff up when it comes to the band's personal lives and friendships.
I agree which is why I included a caveat in my post.  There is a perception that they didn't seem to understand where he was at or was it possible that they just didn't want to accept it?
Probably all of the above.  Neil at various times has said: 1) He's retired 2) The door is open for any creative effort, including small-scale tours  3) the door is open for creative efforts.  There's obvious confusion here, and it's probably due to Alex and Ged talking to Neil less than we might suspect they do.  But it's important to note that everything Neil has said is somewhere between 6-15 month old.  I think it's unlikely that he still feel s exactly the same way, and equally unlikely that at the relatively young age of 64, that he's ready to pack it in.  Give it a year and see if we don't hear something about a new Rush project.

Edited by Ron2112, 08 November 2016 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 08 November 2016 - 12:55 PM

View PostRon2112, on 08 November 2016 - 09:33 AM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 07 November 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 07 November 2016 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 07 November 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

I can understand that but who knows what's actually happening behind the scenes? Hopefully, it isn't as negative as some of us might think it is.


Geddy said on this latest radio interview, "If you care about your bandmate, you just accept it."  He was certainly referring to caring about his friend Neil, and how he should accept that his business partner Neil is calling it quits.  

Way too many fans make stuff up when it comes to the band's personal lives and friendships.
I agree which is why I included a caveat in my post.  There is a perception that they didn't seem to understand where he was at or was it possible that they just didn't want to accept it?
Probably all of the above.  Neil at various times has said: 1) He's retired 2) The door is open for any creative effort, including small-scale tours  3) the door is open for creative efforts.  There's obvious confusion here, and it's probably due to Alex and Ged talking to Neil less than we might suspect they do.  But it's important to note that everything Neil has said is somewhere between 6-15 month old.  I think it's unlikely that he still feel s exactly the same way, and equally unlikely that at the relatively young age of 64, that he's ready to pack it in.  Give it a year and see if we don't hear something about a new Rush project.

Neil's book (released September) is definitive.  The door is not open.  "Time Stand Still" sorta glossed over that.  Neil even describes how Rush & management "waffled" on the final tour statement.  The current situation is very clear, and in Neil's own words.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:11 AM

Neil will attempt writing a novel. It will not be good. He'll call in KJ Anderson to help him. It will get worse.

KJA: "Neil, I looooove this part, but your dialogue isn't wooden enough. Your words need to be more woody."
NP: "Okay, can do! I think I'm good at verbal stiffness. Have you read my self-penned drum ads for DW drums? I coined the term "Wood Whisperer"! Any other suggestions?"
KJA: "Stretch out your similes. Don't bother with metaphors, people won't get them.Don't leave anything to the reader's imagination."
NP: "Most readers have poor imaginations, which is why I'm a writer! I can tell people what they should be imagining!"
KJA: "Precisely! Now can you be a bit more smug and bitter in this section here? I think it will impact the flow in a necessary way."
NP: "You got it! There's plenty more where that came from. Say, did you really write Dune? That was a great book."
KJA: [mumbles and backs out of room]
NP: "Thanks KJA! Can I call you Kaja? You're like the literary version of my good buddy Booze I mean Booujzhe. I'm going to work on putting in-jokes and crappy puns in quotation marks. People seem to enjoy those almost as much as I do.  Maybe I'll use the 'Wood Whisperer' as my 'nom-de-plume'."

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 04:54 PM

I don't think I'd want to see another tour out of them. I don't want to see them decline any further. They're great musically but Geddys voice is shot, Alex isn't playing up to his old standard and Neil doesn't feel like he can keep his quality level up. Sure I could see a studio album since they can work on that over and over to make it perfect, but it just doesn't sound like Neil is interested. I heard a while back that he sold all his drums so that sounds pretty definitive to me.





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