JARG Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 We listen to a lot of Buddy Rich here at the cigar lounge. Yet we know nothing aboot his life. Dose he pretend strangers are long awaited friends???He claims he can't, but we all know that's bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Of course he was cocky. He's Buddy Goddamn Rich. It ain't cocky if you're backing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I got two words for Buddy Rich. Max f***ing Roach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Louie BullBalls Bellson!!! Edited March 24, 2016 by theredtamasrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Art I-Will-f***ing-Kill-You Blakey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnnyBlaze Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Neil is and will always be my favourite drummer... has been since 1976. But, (and this is coming from me, a drummer,) he really is over-rated. Not by miles, but he is. He is a great rock drummer, one of the best, for sure and perfect for Rush. But, if you put him up against people like Mike Mangini, Mike Portnoy, Tony Royster Jr., Dave Weckl and especially, Thomas Lang... look out. No comparison. Google "Thomas Lang drum solo" on the Youtubes... you will be in shock. He is WAY better than even Buddy Rich was at his peak. Try this one - That was nuts! It's like he's very precisely tap dancing, performing brain surgery, and firing a sub machine all at the same time! Don't know how well he'd fit in with what Geddy & Alex would write in the future but that guy is incredible to say the least. How the hell could 67 people given him a thumbs down (over there on YouTube)?!! Deaf idiots! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Neil is and will always be my favourite drummer... has been since 1976. But, (and this is coming from me, a drummer,) he really is over-rated. Not by miles, but he is. He is a great rock drummer, one of the best, for sure and perfect for Rush. But, if you put him up against people like Mike Mangini, Mike Portnoy, Tony Royster Jr., Dave Weckl and especially, Thomas Lang... look out. No comparison. Google "Thomas Lang drum solo" on the Youtubes... you will be in shock. He is WAY better than even Buddy Rich was at his peak. Try this one - That was nuts! It's like he's very precisely tap dancing, performing brain surgery, and firing a sub machine all at the same time! Don't know how well he'd fit in with what Geddy & Alex would write in the future but that guy is incredible to say the least. How the hell could 67 people given him a thumbs down (over there on YouTube)?!! Deaf idiots! Because even though he's incredibly technically proficient it all starts to sound the same rather quickly. A lot of these well studied Berkely Music School chop monsters nowadays tend to sound the same to my ears: precise, tons of notes perfectly executed and very cold and extremely dull. I'd take Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings any day: simple and heartbreakingly beautiful. I nearly weep every time I hear it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Neil is and will always be my favourite drummer... has been since 1976. But, (and this is coming from me, a drummer,) he really is over-rated. Not by miles, but he is. He is a great rock drummer, one of the best, for sure and perfect for Rush. But, if you put him up against people like Mike Mangini, Mike Portnoy, Tony Royster Jr., Dave Weckl and especially, Thomas Lang... look out. No comparison. Google "Thomas Lang drum solo" on the Youtubes... you will be in shock. He is WAY better than even Buddy Rich was at his peak. Try this one - That was nuts! It's like he's very precisely tap dancing, performing brain surgery, and firing a sub machine all at the same time! Don't know how well he'd fit in with what Geddy & Alex would write in the future but that guy is incredible to say the least. How the hell could 67 people given him a thumbs down (over there on YouTube)?!! Deaf idiots! Because even though he's incredibly technically proficient it all starts to sound the same rather quickly. A lot of these well studied Berkely Music School chop monsters nowadays tend to sound the same to my ears: precise, tons of notes perfectly executed and very cold and extremely dull. I'd take Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings any day: simple and heartbreakingly beautiful. I nearly weep every time I hear it.Hence, my sentence commenting on fitting in with Geddy & Alex. It doesn't matter if the next drummer is better than Neil or not. It only matters if he/she fits in with what Geddy & Alex write. This is for everyone: Many drummers are "better" than Neil. So what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Art I-Will-f***ing-Kill-You Blakey Theres a photo in the Blue Note book of Blakey and he has a look on his face like, "I am gonna kill that Muthafucka." He has a drink in one hand and with back to the camera Philly Joe Jones looks like hes trying to reason with Blakey that he shouldn't kick the guys ass. I can just imagine what those cats were really like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Neil is and will always be my favourite drummer... has been since 1976. But, (and this is coming from me, a drummer,) he really is over-rated. Not by miles, but he is. He is a great rock drummer, one of the best, for sure and perfect for Rush. But, if you put him up against people like Mike Mangini, Mike Portnoy, Tony Royster Jr., Dave Weckl and especially, Thomas Lang... look out. No comparison. Google "Thomas Lang drum solo" on the Youtubes... you will be in shock. He is WAY better than even Buddy Rich was at his peak. Try this one - That was nuts! It's like he's very precisely tap dancing, performing brain surgery, and firing a sub machine all at the same time! Don't know how well he'd fit in with what Geddy & Alex would write in the future but that guy is incredible to say the least. How the hell could 67 people given him a thumbs down (over there on YouTube)?!! Deaf idiots! Because even though he's incredibly technically proficient it all starts to sound the same rather quickly. A lot of these well studied Berkely Music School chop monsters nowadays tend to sound the same to my ears: precise, tons of notes perfectly executed and very cold and extremely dull. I'd take Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings any day: simple and heartbreakingly beautiful. I nearly weep every time I hear it.Hence, my sentence commenting on fitting in with Geddy & Alex. It doesn't matter if the next drummer is better than Neil or not. It only matters if he/she fits in with what Geddy & Alex write. This is for everyone: Many drummers are "better" than Neil. So what? Exactly. It's a particular amalgamation that makes a band special. A unique blend of elements. Dare I say it...Chemistry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Art I-Will-f***ing-Kill-You Blakey Theres a photo in the Blue Note book of Blakey and he has a look on his face like, "I am gonna kill that Muthafucka." He has a drink in one hand and with back to the camera Philly Joe Jones looks like hes trying to reason with Blakey that he shouldn't kick the guys ass. I can just imagine what those cats were really like. I get the impression that Blakey was HARD and would whoop yo' ass if he felt it was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 https://youtu.be/gGPI3VevPqI http://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/drummers-final-2.jpg?w=806&h=488 See. Proof. Debate over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Of course he was cocky. He's Buddy Goddamn Rich. It ain't cocky if you're backing it up. Louie Bellson was just as good and not an as-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Art I-Will-f***ing-Kill-You Blakey Art "I'll bet you thought this bass pedal couldn't fit up yer arse but we'll give it a try muthafucka" Blakey! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Of course he was cocky. He's Buddy Goddamn Rich. It ain't cocky if you're backing it up. Louie Bellson was just as good and not an as-hole. Have to disagree. Bellson was awesome...maybe even more musical but Rich was a force of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Art I-Will-f***ing-Kill-You Blakey Art "I'll bet you thought this bass pedal couldn't fit up yer arse but we'll give it a try muthafucka" Blakey! This is rhe pic. Sorry dont know how to post img'shttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WlwTb7DGZv4/UexUrkplwgI/AAAAAAAAWi0/qjCpHpuaaHY/s1600/Philly+Joe+Jones+-+with+Blakey+-+Big+Hands.jpg Edited March 25, 2016 by Digital Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Rich was one of those guys that was great, knew he was great and demanded you be just as great and if you weren't he'd let you know. His being a prick doesn't negate the fact that he was the greatest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Of course he was cocky. He's Buddy Goddamn Rich. It ain't cocky if you're backing it up. Louie Bellson was just as good and not an as-hole. Have to disagree. Bellson was awesome...maybe even more musical but Rich was a force of nature. We can agree to disagree, but the sweaty c-nt of Buddy Rich turned me off to him. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Fun. Old school. And Ed Shaughnessy with a hubcap on his chain (wtf). I remember when this was on... frist time I saw BR and i was in AWE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omID1prJHFo Buddy Rich was a talented drummer. He was also a cocky rat pack as-hole (aside from the hilarious rants above).He had a fabulous vocabulary. Sounds like he new 6 words. Knuckle dragging drummer. :codger: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 OK if we are talking Buddy Rich then end of conversation. There will never be another Buddy. He was a supreme talent from a very young age. His technical proficiency was unmatched. I saw him live a number of times. Every time I saw him, it made me want to play the drums even more...and made me want to quit playing the drums. After witnessing his performance it would leave me feeling "helpless". There was no way I would ever be able to come close to anything he did. He was a prick with his band. The most demanding boss out there. But he was actually a very nice guy if he wanted to be. Watch all his appearances on the Tonight Show with johnny Carson. Very entertaining. I met him once and he was super nice and charming - this after his tour manager physically manhandled me for getting too close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 OK if we are talking Buddy Rich then end of conversation. There will never be another Buddy. He was a supreme talent from a very young age. His technical proficiency was unmatched. I saw him live a number of times. Every time I saw him, it made me want to play the drums even more...and made me want to quit playing the drums. After witnessing his performance it would leave me feeling "helpless". There was no way I would ever be able to come close to anything he did. He was a prick with his band. The most demanding boss out there. But he was actually a very nice guy if he wanted to be. Watch all his appearances on the Tonight Show with johnny Carson. Very entertaining. I met him once and he was super nice and charming - this after his tour manager physically manhandled me for getting too close. What else is there to say really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omID1prJHFo Buddy Rich was a talented drummer. He was also a cocky rat pack as-hole (aside from the hilarious rants above).He had a fabulous vocabulary. Sounds like he new 6 words. Knuckle dragging drummer. :codger: All I can say is that you're making an ignorant and ill informed comment based on that tape (and there are other tapes too). Y'all are soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omID1prJHFo Buddy Rich was a talented drummer. He was also a cocky rat pack as-hole (aside from the hilarious rants above).He had a fabulous vocabulary. Sounds like he new 6 words. Knuckle dragging drummer. :codger: All I can say is that you're making an ignorant and ill informed comment based on that tape (and there are other tapes too). Y'all are soft."Soft"? Nonsense. Imagine that being your boss despite how skilled or knowledgable he is. Despite how nice he potentially can be. Imagine that being your boss. Edited March 30, 2016 by JohnnyBlaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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