O_Baterista Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Okay I realize some people are going to be on me like pack animals right now but... I don't understand 2112's great acclaim. I get the historical significance but the suite itself is not outstanding besides the overture and Temples. I mean it's good... And the other songs are just mediocre except Passage and Somethign for Nothing. Can someone set me straight please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1yyz Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Personally, I think 2112 is phenomenal. But not everyone likes everything Rush has done, so if this doesn't work for you then that's just How It Is. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't understand, no explanation is possible...:smoke: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 If this doesn't set you straight, nothing will Maybe reading Ayn Rand's ANTHEM might generate a little interest in the story ... just let the music create the visuals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's a bit overrated, if you ask me. It's basically an album of peaks and valleys. The peaks are among Rush's best work and they are heavy and they ROCK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Personally, I think 2112 is phenomenal. But not everyone likes everything Rush has done, so if this doesn't work for you then that's just How It Is. In many ways I still think of this as Rush's most perfect song. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Can someone set me straight please? There is nothing to set straight. You either dig the album or you don't. You're not required to love every album that the band has recorded. You could go to a U2 forum and ask the same question about The Joshua Tree. It's all subjective opinion and personal taste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 How many times have you heard the album? Sometimes songs take time to click with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuesday's Gone Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Nothing to explain OP, either you enjoy it or you don't. Personally, it's one of my favorite Rush songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuesday's Gone Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Nothing to explain OP, either you enjoy it or you don't. Personally, it's one of my favorite Rush songs. I was talking about the title track btw, I agree completely with that part of your comment And the other songs are just mediocre except Passage and Somethign for Nothing. Edited July 8, 2015 by Tuesday's Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Enjoy or not. Up to you. I personally think it is perfect from start to finish. Side two is great in my view. Both playful and kick @ss at different times. I am convinced now that Lessons is the most underrated song they have ever done. I appreciate you putting the final nail in that coffin at least as you don't even mention the song when you discuss side two. Thanks much... :cheers: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Lee Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 ^^Agree narps :). 2112 is a perfect beast of an album and a song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone and a hard place Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I love it in concert, and as a 14 year old every song spoke to me, but honestly I have not pulled out that album to listen to in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is like trying to explain why some people like Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone and a hard place Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is like trying to explain why some people like Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus. look closely, aren't they the same person? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Aw come on, there's something here that's as strong as life! I know that it will reach you! ;) In any case, don't read Anthem. 2112 might be inspired by it, but it's a very different story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analog guy Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't think you can discount its importance, because if it hadn't succeeded, Rush might have been over and done a long time ago. But I've heard it so much, on radio and live, that it's almost becoming in danger of being overplayed and overthought. When I do listen to it these days, I do it to hear the second side as much as anything. If I want to hear "Bangkok" I listen to ESL as I believe that to be the superior version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhawk2112 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Nostalgia is powerful. If Tears was on any album post-1990 it would not be received well, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relayer2112 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's not the nostalgia necessarily. I see Tears as a nice change of pace on an album that rocks at a pretty high level throughout. The post-1990 stuff, because they were typically longer albums, had more space for mediocre songs, so a change of pace wasn't as appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mother of all machines Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 You can not just not scream HEY every time there is that small silence in Lifeson's guitar in the overture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is like trying to explain why some people like Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus. look closely, aren't they the same person? Separated at birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is about a guy who goes to the great wall of China on his motorcycle. Oh wait, that's Tai Shan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Oh..2112? It's about Ayn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn RandAyn Rand Ayn Rand 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So there is this guy, and he's a bastard in a hospital,and Mr. X wants him to kill Mary, "Kill Mary??" and get the priest as well. :| Ok, my iPod might be messing with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So there is this guy, and he's a bastard in a hospital,and Mr. X wants him to kill Mary, "Kill Mary??" and get the priest as well. :| Ok, my iPod might be messing with me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29BoqCMRBFk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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