Drummerrobin Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Never understood why 2112 always get called a "concept album". Yes it has a big multi-part 20 minute piece but so does Hemispheres and is that a concept album? No. Is Caress of Steel a concept album? No. Is Close to the Edge a concept album? No. Then why is 2112 always incorrectly labelled as one?! How is A Passage to Bangkok even remotely related to anything else on the album? Who is responsible for these lies? Someone please explain! Arrrgh... :madra: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your_Lion Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. Geddy Lee agrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. And RTB, CP, T4E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 People use the term (incorrectly) as a shorthand for albums where much of the music is devoted to a conceptual piece. The only true concept album Rush has done is CA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. And RTB, CP, T4E. When I think about it, these Rush albums deal with a theme, not necessarily a concept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drummerrobin Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. And RTB, CP, T4E. When I think about it, these Rush albums deal with a theme, not necessarily a concept. I certainly think the first 3 of those albums come far closer to being concept albums than 2112 does (though not sure what the theme for Test for Echo is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think people get confused between 2112 the song and 2112 the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospective Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Maybe because when anyone (you know, those people out there) thinks of 2112 the album, they can only think about the 20-some-minute piece talking about a guy and a guitar and whatnot. They don't think of the other songs on the album, which, contrary to popular belief, do exist. Interesting how massively 2112 the song overshadows the rest of the album in the public eye, despite people constantly praising the album for its quality... makes you ask, "Alright, which one are we really talking about here?" Edited August 12, 2013 by Retrospective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Though Clockwork Angels is the only real concept album, I understand the confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate2112 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. And RTB, CP, T4E. T4E's theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) The way I see it, it's a concept album to many people given that a long song by today's standards is 4 minutes and for some reason, people tend to associate concept album with very very long songs. Edited August 13, 2013 by USB Connector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk98 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 You're right. Is A Farewell to Kings a concept album? No. But it has Xanadu and Cygnus X-1. Not a concept album! So neither is 2112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your_Lion Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I thought all Rush albums were concept albums.Aren't they all about Ayn Rand and space ships? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. Geddy Lee agrees with you. Neil, too, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I thought all Rush albums were concept albums.Aren't they all about Ayn Rand and space ships? You forgot Hobbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Based on your definition, "power windows" would be a concept album since every song deals with some kind of power. And RTB, CP, T4E. T4E's theme? playing with traditional grip.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushBoingo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Yeah, to the press, 2112 the album is 2112 the song. The other tracks are just kind of there. Kind of off topic, but does anyone else find it odd that the record label complained about the 20 minute song, not going the radio friendly route, when the other 5 songs on the album all clock in between 3 and 4 minutes? That seems pretty accessible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 forget all that jazz. someone please tell me the theme of this video! I say it's "Mad Max meets the Three Stooges" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 after the hero escapes from town he discovers cannabis, travels the world and gets so fried he ends up in the twilight zone, and when he comes down he learns a valuable lesson. when he realizes he's out of weed he starts crying, but finally realizes that you cant get something for nothing, and he must get a job to support his weed habit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeson90 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) i recall watching Al talk about CA in some online video in which he mentioned he himself believed all rush albums were concept albums, possibly referring to some kind of conceptual thread running through all the tracks on each album, however vague. i know what you mean about 2112 its kinda like a half-concept album isnt it, but i'll take the great man's word for it on this one. Edited August 14, 2013 by lifeson90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edm2112 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I seem to recall in Beyond The Lighted Stage they talked about the first side of the album being the "concept" piece...i think they touch on it in the Classic Albums 2112/Moving Pictures dvd as well....but really if you sit around listening long enough, you'll eventually find that just about every Rush album is a "concept" album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I seem to recall in Beyond The Lighted Stage they talked about the first side of the album being the "concept" piece...i think they touch on it in the Classic Albums 2112/Moving Pictures dvd as well....but really if you sit around listening long enough, you'll eventually find that just about every Rush album is a "concept" album even caress of steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edm2112 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I seem to recall in Beyond The Lighted Stage they talked about the first side of the album being the "concept" piece...i think they touch on it in the Classic Albums 2112/Moving Pictures dvd as well....but really if you sit around listening long enough, you'll eventually find that just about every Rush album is a "concept" album even caress of steel? Well...yeah I got nothing for that...i guess it could go in the same category as 2112. Containing some conceptual pieces...the rest of the album is just kinda there....but its there in the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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