Grammy Nominations Announced - Rush Snubbed

[rushgoober]

Why am I not surprised? :sarcastic:

 

Seriously, if the Grammys can't detect the quality in an album like Clockwork Angels, they have their heads so far up their asses their heads are probably coming out of their mouths. Of course this isn't news. The Grammys have always profoundly sucked beyond comprehension.

[1-0-0-1-0-0-1]

Why am I not surprised? :sarcastic:

 

Seriously, if the Grammys can't detect the quality in an album like Clockwork Angels...

 

That's because they, like their sister organization the RRHOF, no longer recognize quality. They recognize mainstream popularity and sales, nothing more. As you know.

[calirush]

Surprise, Surprise!

 

It's amazing that they got a RRHOF nomination but I doubt they will ever win a Grammy. I'm surprised that they've even been nominated in the past.

[rushgoober]

Why am I not surprised? :sarcastic:

 

Seriously, if the Grammys can't detect the quality in an album like Clockwork Angels...

 

That's because they, like their sister organization the RRHOF, no longer recognize quality. They recognize mainstream popularity and sales, nothing more. As you know.

 

I knew that would come up.

 

There's a HUGE difference.

 

Most of the bands who deserve to be in the RRHOF, save a dozen or so obvious omissions, are already in there. Of course I could come up with a couple dozen bands beyond that who deserve it that are just far too obscure to ever get recognized. Of course the fact that those dozen or so bands hadn't gotten in sooner greatly reduces the organization's credibility, but it doesn't change the fact that it still recognizes a majority of the major musical acts of the past.

 

The Grammys, on the other hand, have always profoundly sucked, almost never recognizing the great recorded musical works. Contrast that with the Oscars. Of course, tons of worthy movies never get recognition, but most of the movies that are nominated are of a certain quality. The Grammys consistently recognize at best medicority, and mostly outright crap.

Edited December 6, 2012 by rushgoober

[calirush]

Why am I not surprised? :sarcastic:

 

Seriously, if the Grammys can't detect the quality in an album like Clockwork Angels...

 

That's because they, like their sister organization the RRHOF, no longer recognize quality. They recognize mainstream popularity and sales, nothing more. As you know.

 

I knew that would come up.

 

There's a HUGE difference.

 

Most of the bands who deserve to be in the RRHOF, save a dozen or so obvious omissions, are already in there. Of course I could come up with a couple dozen bands beyond that who deserve it that are just far too obscure to ever get recognized. Of course the fact that those dozen or so bands hadn't gotten in sooner greatly reduces the organization's credibility, but it doesn't change the fact that it still recognizes a majority of the major musical acts of the past.

 

The Grammys, on the other hand, have always profoundly sucked, almost never recognizing the great recorded musical works. Contrast that with the Oscars. Of course, tons of worthy movies never get recognition, but most of the movies that are nominated are of a certain quality. The Grammys consistently recognize at best medicority, and mostly outright crap.

 

I fell over laughing at the LA Times outrage that Justin Beiber got snubbed.

http://www.latimes.c...24.photogallery

 

Don't 'Believe' in Bieber

 

 

( Lawrence K. Ho/Los Angeles Times )

Justin Bieber laughed off his bout of indigestion at a recent concert, but his Grammy lockout might be an even tougher swallow. He's one of the biggest stars in pop, and his new album "Believe" was universally acclaimed for its vocal virtuosity and sonic maturation. But the academy didn't agree, and shut him out of every major category. If there were a year to welcome the Biebs into the rare air of Grammy acclaim, this was it - but the voters were like "Bieber, Bieber, Bieber -- no."

 

 

I tried to get through a couple of Beiber songs just to be impartial and fair about casting judgment but I almost threw up in my mouth.

[rushgoober]

Why am I not surprised? :sarcastic:

 

Seriously, if the Grammys can't detect the quality in an album like Clockwork Angels...

 

That's because they, like their sister organization the RRHOF, no longer recognize quality. They recognize mainstream popularity and sales, nothing more. As you know.

 

I knew that would come up.

 

There's a HUGE difference.

 

Most of the bands who deserve to be in the RRHOF, save a dozen or so obvious omissions, are already in there. Of course I could come up with a couple dozen bands beyond that who deserve it that are just far too obscure to ever get recognized. Of course the fact that those dozen or so bands hadn't gotten in sooner greatly reduces the organization's credibility, but it doesn't change the fact that it still recognizes a majority of the major musical acts of the past.

 

The Grammys, on the other hand, have always profoundly sucked, almost never recognizing the great recorded musical works. Contrast that with the Oscars. Of course, tons of worthy movies never get recognition, but most of the movies that are nominated are of a certain quality. The Grammys consistently recognize at best medicority, and mostly outright crap.

 

I fell over laughing at the LA Times outrage that Justin Beiber got snubbed.

http://www.latimes.c...24.photogallery

 

Don't 'Believe' in Bieber

 

 

( Lawrence K. Ho/Los Angeles Times )

Justin Bieber laughed off his bout of indigestion at a recent concert, but his Grammy lockout might be an even tougher swallow. He's one of the biggest stars in pop, and his new album "Believe" was universally acclaimed for its vocal virtuosity and sonic maturation. But the academy didn't agree, and shut him out of every major category. If there were a year to welcome the Biebs into the rare air of Grammy acclaim, this was it - but the voters were like "Bieber, Bieber, Bieber -- no."

 

 

I tried to get through a couple of Beiber songs just to be impartial and fair about casting judgment but I almost threw up in my mouth.

 

I'm surprised Justin Beiber didn't get nominated - that's the kind of shit the Grammys usually drool over.

[tas7]

Hate music awards,they are just get given to the flavour of the month. Do you notice how one act seems to sweep the board? They also make up categories; best punk country soul rap industrial artist goes to.....One Direction.

[rushgoober]

Hate music awards,they are just get given to the flavour of the month. Do you notice how one act seems to sweep the board? They also make up categories; best punk country soul rap industrial artist goes to.....One Direction.

 

Yes, exactly right on the flavor of the month comment (other than the superfluous letter "u" in flavor ;) ). The Grammys have long been a celebration of mediocrity and currently popular garbage. If they really wanted to honor the best songs/artists/albums of any given year, they'd have to really be willing to nominate and vote for lesser known and less popular works by quality bands and completely ignore anything top 20.

[treeduck]

Why is the poster known to us all as Gary Sedgewick Rushgoober III always yammering in threads about the Grammys, or the RRHOF or other such lurid mass appeal outrages? People who like RUSH that I've come across don't concern themselves with such crass and questionable institutions. They're too busy rocking! :haz:

[CygnusGal]

Well said, treeduck. :haz:

 

I admit there was a little part of me that was so Charlie Brown - you're really going to hold the football this time? Okay! I'll kick it! Waaauuugh... :sigh:

 

I was glad to see Muse get a couple of nods (2nd Law and Madness) - it really is a spectacular album and song. As a Rush fan, I'm used the slights to us and the band. Such is life.

 

A fine service has always been performed by the fine Grammy academy. For example, I know for a fact that Behind My Camel is a better song than YYZ. It's a fact. I also know I need to run right out and get some Taylor Swift (born the year Presto came out) and that I should stop listening to the Biebs because he clearly can't cut it anymore despite his virtuostic vocal chops and sonic maturation. :eyeroll:

 

And in weird some way, I'm kind of proud. We all get to retain our standing as fanatics for the biggest cult band in the galaxy. That's some consolation, I suppose. We all remain on the fringes, endlessly rocking.

 

 

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Edited December 6, 2012 by CygnusGal

[rushgoober]

I normally don't care about the Grammys, or expect anything from them, but this album is their best since the 80's by a very wide margin and deserved recognition. I guess expecting the Grammys to recognize quality is like expecting flies to appreciate roses. They only love shit... like the Grammys.

[bluefox4000]

I can count on one hand the number of times i've watched the grammy's. Trust me....A large majority of acts are nothing to celebrate. I'm sure Rush couldn't care less. So just enjoy that you even have a new album and tour at all.

 

Mick

[rmeclark]

Why is the poster known to us all as Gary Sedgewick Rushgoober III always yammering in threads about the Grammys, or the RRHOF or other such lurid mass appeal outrages? People who like RUSH that I've come across don't concern themselves with such crass and questionable institutions. They're too busy rocking! :haz:

 

 

Treeduck, I love your posts, cause I get to look at that hot girl everytime! Your so right about those lame institutions, I enjoy Rush so much, I could care less. I'll post this quote from Alex's Guitar World interview on this very topic:

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: I mean, everybody knows you guys should be in by now. Does it bother you that you’re not? Do you care?

I really don’t care. I look at it like this: Last week we received the Governor General’s Performing Arts Award for Lifetime Achievement, which is a very high honor in Canada. And we were also inducted into the Canadian Hall of Fame, and all those sorts of things. So, in that sense, I’m quite satisfied with those accolades, particularly the Governor General’s Award. That puts us in the company of some of the greatest Canadian creative minds of the last 20 years, since they started this.

I really don’t feel the need to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because, at the end of the day, it’s just somebody’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They have a particular process, and they’re welcome to do it however they want to do it. If they feel that they want to exclude a certain genre or certain bands from their hall of fame, they’re welcome to do it. I don’t need to be in there. I have no interest in going there. I think that so long as we keep this relationship, we probably both benefit. If Rush is not in there, the controversy continues, and it keeps Rush fans very pissed-off. There’s some great bands in there that I really respect. Just recently, it was great to see the Chili Peppers get in—I love those guys. But I don’t need it. I have no interest in going, and hope that we never will.

If I was a Rush fan, I’d be like, “No man, don’t do it. Let’s keep this to ourselves, this little special thing.”

 

 

I could'nt have said it any better! :rush:

[Pound of Obscure]

There just is no room for Rush, with great artists like Fun.

[rushgoober]

Both Geddy and Alex have said many times it doesn't matter to them except for the fact that they know how important it is to many of their fans. That's fine that they don't care (although I imagine in their heart of hearts they wouldn't really be UNhappy to receive a major accolade), but I'm one of those many fans who DO care. For those too jaded or cynical or have some special reason for not caring, feel free to be miserable and depressed or whatever makes you unhappy while the rest of us are celebrating. ;)

 

As for the Grammys, I have no expectations they'll ever get one - they are completely incapable of recognizing talent. The RRHOF may be decades too late, but at least they'll get there in the end.

Edited December 6, 2012 by rushgoober

[treeduck]

Both Geddy and Alex have said many times it doesn't matter to them except for the fact that they know how important it is to many of their fans. That's fine that they don't care (although I imagine in their heart of hearts they wouldn't really be UNhappy to receive a major accolade), but I'm one of those many fans who DO care. For those too jaded or cynical or have some special reason for not caring, feel free to be miserable and depressed or whatever makes you unhappy while the rest of us are celebrating. ;)

 

 

You're making assumptions Gary. Where do you get the jaded and cynical vibes from? Where's the depression and misery? I don't see any? Unless they're from you? You do seem a little depressed about Rush not getting a grammy nod, a little miserable maybe, since you mentioned it.

[Lerxster]

I'm more appalled that Fun got multiple noms. There were no instumentals on CA, so there should be no shock from no noms for Rush. Although, I must say I've never thought so little of the Shammies as I do now. Shamwow!

[librarian]

...I think I'll be doing laundry that evening...

[USB Connector]

I'm sorry, but when did these institutions and awards shows become about music and not about publicity, ratings and money? Rush could produce something as amazing as Led Zeppelin IV or as revolutionary as the Beatles' entire career but unless it gets hourly play on every radio station there will be no awards.

[Tommy Sawyer]

Oh. No.

 

Whatever shall we do.

 

:eyeroll:

[tas7]

Just awards for pubescent arseholes.Mumford and Sons will win a load,the usual Perry,Minaj,Bieber,One erection brigade will perform lip synching bollocks to screaming kids.You may even get that geriatric stripper Madonna showing her fanny,kissing Britney Spears and saying mofo to a live audience.

Us real musicians and music lovers will just despair.

[rushgoober]

I'm sorry, but when did these institutions and awards shows become about music and not about publicity, ratings and money? Rush could produce something as amazing as Led Zeppelin IV or as revolutionary as the Beatles' entire career but unless it gets hourly play on every radio station there will be no awards.

 

Too true. God knows I haven't heard most of the albums nominated for best album or best hard rock album in the past 20 years, but I doubt any of them are as good as Clockwork Angels. What a joke.

[Xanadoood]

The voters are at it again..more hilarity..

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/al-walser-grammy-nomination-edm_n_2251364.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

[Khan]

They will never be nominated for a Grammy...they aren't cool enough.

[LyndseyG]

Well said, treeduck. :haz:

 

I admit there was a little part of me that was so Charlie Brown - you're really going to hold the football this time? Okay! I'll kick it! Waaauuugh... :sigh:

 

I was glad to see Muse get a couple of nods (2nd Law and Madness) - it really is a spectacular album and song. As a Rush fan, I'm used the slights to us and the band. Such is life.

 

A fine service has always been performed by the fine Grammy academy. For example, I know for a fact that Behind My Camel is a better song than YYZ. It's a fact. I also know I need to run right out and get some Taylor Swift (born the year Presto came out) and that I should stop listening to the Biebs because he clearly can't cut it anymore despite his virtuostic vocal chops and sonic maturation. :eyeroll:

 

And in weird some way, I'm kind of proud. We all get to retain our standing as fanatics for the biggest cult band in the galaxy. That's some consolation, I suppose. We all remain on the fringes, endlessly rocking.

 

 

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Agreed. :cheers:

 

:rush: :haz: