Now Let's Settle Down and Consider the Cover

[eshine]

QUOTE (Merely Space @ Apr 17 2012, 02:51 PM)

I think all the alternatives being posited are wonderful pictures, but they all look too specific for the cover. They all seem to be for specific songs. The red image is the only one I have seen that seems to encompass the entire album.

Exactly. It's a mood peice. Totally approriate for an album cover.

[eshine]

Doe anyone else see the helarious irony in all of this?

 

Hugh Syme creates so many peices now that we are actually using his very own work against him to make a point that he is "phoning it in".

 

LOL

 

Man, we have gotten spoiled.

 

Savor it, folks!

[danielmclark]

[Snaked]

I gotta say I find all the bitching absolutely hilarious.

 

I remember back when a single was 7", came in a plain white paper jacket and the label was generic and specific to the record company. And now people spend their time picking apart unique artwork which is specific to the project and signed off by the art director and the band member whose job it is to handle all the packaging.

 

 

Imagine if Hemispheres had come out in the information age... people would be whining about the photos in the gatefold and the ugly ass red vinyl that was used in the first pressing.

 

Or if Moving Pictures came out today and all we heard was the lame motion photos on the sleeve.

 

 

 

C'mon folks. We're getting a new RUSH album in less than 2 months. Had you told me 11 years ago that in 2012 we'd be lit up with anticipation over an album of NEW material by these guys I would have said you were nuts.

 

 

 

[danielmclark]

QUOTE (Snaked @ Apr 17 2012, 02:47 PM)

I gotta say I find all the bitching absolutely hilarious. <..>

Well, yeah... but what else are we supposed to talk about?!

[Lerxster]

QUOTE (Merely Space @ Apr 17 2012, 02:51 PM)

I think all the alternatives being posited are wonderful pictures, but they all look too specific for the cover.  They all seem to be for specific songs.  The red image is the only one I have seen that seems to encompass the entire album.

I like your post, sir

[ghostworks]

QUOTE (eshine @ Apr 17 2012, 03:30 PM)

QUOTE (ghostworks @ Apr 17 2012, 02:50 PM) [full confession: you're not even reading the posts anymore, are you? ] Not really - too many words   I will say, though, that I personally would never concern myself with manipulating stock images beyond recognition in my work out of fear that my clients might do an internet search for the soul purpose of saying "gotchya, Kev - you're phoning it in" LOL neither would I   QUOTE (eshine @ Apr 17 2012, 03:30 PM) Assuming that "the pedler" is actual artwork for the album  (which I'm sure it is) the forest photo is an excellent choice and creates the perfect mood. I'm not bothered at all that he didn't create it from scratch... neither am I   (so far we're agreeing... a lot)   QUOTE (eshine @ Apr 17 2012, 03:30 PM) ...I say kudos for having the design sense to use imagery that is perfectly suited for the mood of the peice. well, none of us (right...?) have heard the album, so we can't go that far just yet

[av450]

I don't know if any has mentioned this or not but the one image with the two hands and the clock in the middle looks like it could be for the song carnies because of the ferris wheel.

[drbirdsong]

Look at the pre-order page on Rush.com:

 

http://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage...gels/index.html

 

If that doesn't solidify the red image as the cover, then they are waiting to spring a big surprise on everyone. Get used to it.

[Tommy Sawyer]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 16 2012, 04:33 PM)

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 16 2012, 03:26 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 16 2012, 04:07 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 16 2012, 02:32 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 16 2012, 12:10 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 15 2012, 09:27 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 15 2012, 10:15 PM) QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Apr 15 2012, 08:18 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 15 2012, 01:29 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ Apr 15 2012, 12:15 PM) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/reedlover/CP%20Pics/92172b0a.jpg Found this on a Brazilian site. It purports to be album art for the new Rush album. That looks like real effort and time went into it, unlike the real cover, but that looks more like art for a specific song, not a cover. But to your point... why couldnt we have art somewhat like this for the cover Who knows. It's just a cover so it's really not all that important.   In the past before computers came around we got a lot of great band covers because designers for forced to paint them or create them manually using photos and whatnot.   But even with computers having taken over the music world, you can still create great high concept stuff in Photoshop. My issue with it isnt so much that it's so clearly created on a computer, but just that it's too direct. Like not much thought went into it.   A clock using alchemy symbols, which has been used by many bands, overlayed on top of clouds? It just doesnt have that cleverness that a cover like Signals had, or Moving Pictures. It's just too simple and not worthy of a band like Rush. That cover I guess would be cool for some up and coming band, but I just dont think it's good enough for a band like Rush. Is clever about the cover of Signals??? Well when you think of the word signals, a dog pissing on a hydrant probably isnt the first thing that comes to mind, but it's very appropriate. That's what makes it clever.   When you think of the name clockwork angels, how obvious is a clock against some clouds? That's probably the most obvious concept you can think of for this album title. I'd rather something simple and clever.   Moving Pictures is a great example as well. It's just a photo, but the idea is pretty clever and they had to go out and shoot it, so it just says "higher quality" to me than any Photoshop cover. I mentioned a concept in another thread a while back that I would have liked more. A bunch of people standing in line dressed up as angels using kind of crappy looking costumes, waiting to punch in for work, one of them checking their watch like they're late for work, another one looking tired like they had worked late the night before, all doing different things in line.   Something like that would have taken real effort to execute and I think its kind of a funny idea. Thats just the sort of covers I prefer personally, but you dont see them much anymore just because its easier and cheaper to whip something up in Photoshop than to pay for a whole photoshoot, have a set built, etc.. Still don't know what the dog has to do with Signals.   All your other points were good though When a dog pisses on a hydrant, a lamp post, a bush, or whatever it's a signal to other dogs... I get it... but that's not really clever IMO. Well I'm not saying it is, I'm just helping you out with a little information since you can't see the obvious...

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Apr 17 2012, 04:09 PM)

Look at the pre-order page on Rush.com: http://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage...gels/index.html If that doesn't solidify the red image as the cover, then they are waiting to spring a big surprise on everyone. Get used to it.

ugh

[treeduck]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Apr 17 2012, 11:33 PM)

QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Apr 17 2012, 04:09 PM) Look at the pre-order page on Rush.com: http://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage...gels/index.html If that doesn't solidify the red image as the cover, then they are waiting to spring a big surprise on everyone.  Get used to it. ugh That could still be a slipcase, in fact it looks like a slipcase in that picture...

[Snowman]

I think it is cool! I dont have a that red cd in my collection. It will stand out and be easy to spot and pick out when I want to listen to it.

 

 

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 17 2012, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 16 2012, 04:33 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 16 2012, 03:26 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Apr 16 2012, 04:07 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 16 2012, 02:32 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 16 2012, 12:10 PM) QUOTE (Tommy Sawyer @ Apr 15 2012, 09:27 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 15 2012, 10:15 PM) QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Apr 15 2012, 08:18 PM) QUOTE (trenken @ Apr 15 2012, 01:29 PM) QUOTE (Tony R @ Apr 15 2012, 12:15 PM) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/reedlover/CP%20Pics/92172b0a.jpg Found this on a Brazilian site. It purports to be album art for the new Rush album. That looks like real effort and time went into it, unlike the real cover, but that looks more like art for a specific song, not a cover. But to your point... why couldnt we have art somewhat like this for the cover Who knows. It's just a cover so it's really not all that important.   In the past before computers came around we got a lot of great band covers because designers for forced to paint them or create them manually using photos and whatnot.   But even with computers having taken over the music world, you can still create great high concept stuff in Photoshop. My issue with it isnt so much that it's so clearly created on a computer, but just that it's too direct. Like not much thought went into it.   A clock using alchemy symbols, which has been used by many bands, overlayed on top of clouds? It just doesnt have that cleverness that a cover like Signals had, or Moving Pictures. It's just too simple and not worthy of a band like Rush. That cover I guess would be cool for some up and coming band, but I just dont think it's good enough for a band like Rush. Is clever about the cover of Signals??? Well when you think of the word signals, a dog pissing on a hydrant probably isnt the first thing that comes to mind, but it's very appropriate. That's what makes it clever.   When you think of the name clockwork angels, how obvious is a clock against some clouds? That's probably the most obvious concept you can think of for this album title. I'd rather something simple and clever.   Moving Pictures is a great example as well. It's just a photo, but the idea is pretty clever and they had to go out and shoot it, so it just says "higher quality" to me than any Photoshop cover. I mentioned a concept in another thread a while back that I would have liked more. A bunch of people standing in line dressed up as angels using kind of crappy looking costumes, waiting to punch in for work, one of them checking their watch like they're late for work, another one looking tired like they had worked late the night before, all doing different things in line.   Something like that would have taken real effort to execute and I think its kind of a funny idea. Thats just the sort of covers I prefer personally, but you dont see them much anymore just because its easier and cheaper to whip something up in Photoshop than to pay for a whole photoshoot, have a set built, etc.. Still don't know what the dog has to do with Signals.   All your other points were good though When a dog pisses on a hydrant, a lamp post, a bush, or whatever it's a signal to other dogs... I get it... but that's not really clever IMO. Well I'm not saying it is, I'm just helping you out with a little information since you can't see the obvious...

[Lerxster]

[H. P. L.]

[Stormtron]

I think it'll be a digipak, they seem to favor those now.

 

Also,

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/CaravanSong1.jpg

 

I love that one. If there's a gatefold vinyl, I hope that's the inside picture.

[Rod in Toronto]

Where's the option for "reani14 here, this cover is good but what do you think of The Police? Aren't they awesome?".

[treeduck]

[librarian]

Gadzooks! there's cryptic Alpha-Bits in my soup!

[toyzshopmike]

Has anyone considered that the RED album cover means that this album is a SPIN BACK (swirling Red clouds) TO 2112 ( the hands on the clock)?????

[treeduck]

QUOTE (toyzshopmike @ Apr 22 2012, 11:06 AM)

Has anyone considered that the RED album cover means that this album is a SPIN BACK (swirling Red clouds) TO 2112 ( the hands on the clock)?????