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QUOTE (sonicjams @ Oct 15 2011, 08:37 AM)
havent liked a KISS record since love gun.

and for the record, caress of steel is awesome i think, it's just a bit silly and over-the-top

In my opinion, Kiss' Sonic Boom (2009) is better than Love Gun.

It's "no filler, all killer" while LG has 2-3 of them...

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QUOTE (trenken @ Oct 14 2011, 05:15 AM)
QUOTE (HereAgain @ Oct 13 2011, 11:30 PM)
I think it's hilarious how Rush showed Paul Stanley the early tapes of Caress and he just couldn't get into it. Is this why Kiss attempted The Elder?

Honestly not too many really liked that album when it came out. They sid in the doc that they werent even sure if they 'got it', meaning they were lost and didnt know what the hell they were trying to do. It was a commercial failure, Rush was playing very small places, sometimes only maybe 30 people showing up. They called it the down the tubes tour.

 

I remember reading an interview a while back about during the writing of that album they went to see Yes, and became very disheartened at how much better than Rush they were. That might have effected the quality of the album, with their morale being at rock bottom.

 

Geddy has even said I think right before the VT tour that its painful for him to listen to that album, that is hasnt aged well at all, which I totally agree with. It sounds really goofy to me now.

I actually like Caress of Steel. At least I really like The Necromancer. I think it's a solid song. The music is gorgeous. I'm not crazy about ITIGB, but the rest aren't bad, and I still need to digest TFOL. But the necromancer is a good song IMO. I can understand everyone thinking it's unfocused and odd, because it is, but maybe that's why I like it to some degree. It's nowhere near their best stuff of course, but it isn't horrible.

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Love Caress..the warm, brooding sound...

 

The naive love for, and belief in, what they were doing comes through to me, which makes is one of my favorites.

 

 

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QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

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QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

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TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

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QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 04:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

So do i

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COS is the album that got my Girlfriend into Rush. She'd heard GUP, PoW, FTK, but Rush never really took for her until she heard Fountain of Lamneth. I can't understand why it's not everyone's favorite Rush song, but that's just me. smile.gif
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On 'Fountain of Lamneth', we can witness why Geddy says that he was melody man of the group. His songs 'Panacea' and 'Bacchus Plateau' are such beauuuuutiful songs. I really like them. Bacchus is another word for Dionysis; what a premonition of what was to come.

 

COS is one of my favorites in the whole catalog. Alex's 335 (used on all songs except for 'Lakeside Park' and 'Panacea') into the Fender Super Reverb has a heavenly timbre.

 

Sure, COS is an oddball but it's the DNA of their music evolving, and wonderful in its own way.

 

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QUOTE (kevorkazito @ Oct 22 2011, 02:05 AM)
On 'Fountain of Lamneth', we can witness why Geddy says that he was melody man of the group. His songs 'Panacea' and 'Bacchus Plateau' are such beauuuuutiful songs. I really like them. Bacchus is another word for Dionysis; what a premonition of what was to come.

COS is one of my favorites in the whole catalog. Alex's 335 (used on all songs except for 'Lakeside Park' and 'Panacea') into the Fender Super Reverb has a heavenly timbre.

Sure, COS is an oddball but it's the DNA of their music evolving, and wonderful in its own way.

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As far as Necromancer "being a bit repetitive", what about Xanadu and Hemispheres? Those are way more repetitive musically. Lyrically, they are pretty silly as well.

 

 

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QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

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QUOTE (Babycat @ Oct 23 2011, 05:20 PM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

I like most of it. Faithless is another of my "six". It's a good song and it is better hearing it live, but I just can't get "into" it like the others.

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QUOTE (Babycat @ Oct 23 2011, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

I think its great. It took a lot of listens to appreciate it though. I always thought that it was a so-so album, but all the tracks have grown on me except for Faithless. I can't stand that song, and its not because of the lyrics.

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QUOTE (Babycat @ Oct 23 2011, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

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I love it! I think it's absolutely wonderful. Among my favourites for many reasons yes.gif

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QUOTE (Babycat @ Oct 23 2011, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

Agreed, one of the best albums Rush has ever released. My opinion of course.

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QUOTE (Ranger J @ Oct 22 2011, 08:44 PM)
How can anyone take a guy that wears makeup seriously?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/DefRushFan/rushpic70.gif

 

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QUOTE (Babycat @ Oct 23 2011, 10:20 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 18 2011, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ Oct 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (barney_rebel @ Oct 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
Mike Portnoy hated Hold Your Fire.

umm... Kurt Cobain hated Signals.

 

Wait, is this a new game? Someone else? Stevie Nicks hated Permanent Waves! Michael Jackson hated Power Windows! PRINCE HATED MOVING PICTURES!!!!!!11

 

applaudit.gif

TRF members hated Snakes and Arrows

I don't hate Snakes & Arrows. Am I the only TRF member that loves it..? wub.gif

I like it too. It's not in my Top Five, but it's pretty close.

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QUOTE (GeddysMullet @ Oct 24 2011, 05:05 AM)
QUOTE (Ranger J @ Oct 22 2011, 08:44 PM)
How can anyone take a guy that wears makeup seriously?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/DefRushFan/rushpic70.gif

 

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that ain't no guy.

 

That's Alex F***ing Lifeson!

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Geddy's opening vocals in The Necromancer are enough for me to love that entire album. The Fountain is an epic journey, Bastille Day is hardcore, Lakeside Park is gorgeous, and ITIGB is an alright song, IMO.
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QUOTE (Alexmai @ Oct 17 2011, 04:29 AM)
In my opinion, Kiss' Sonic Boom (2009) is better than Love Gun.

 

I like S.B. but come on................. cool10.gif

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Paul probably didn't like it because it wasn't "commercial" enough!

 

Kiss was nothing more than a marketing ploy! In fact Gene is STILL marketing crap with their logo's and likenesses!

 

I had a friend play me Alive once and I thought it was a joke!

 

 

All that posing they did and the breathing fire and crazieness didn't lend well to a "live" album!

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