presto123 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 QUOTE (Mika @ Sep 10 2011, 03:53 AM) I'd never criticized the sound quality of Vapor Trails, and was actually surprised that people generally didn't like it. I kind of thought it was a more 'raw, heavy-sounding' album, and left it at that for myself. It's interesting to see more specific basis for this, and it would be interesting to hear a different mix of it! Since my ears aren't registering 'distortion' so much, I'll continue to enjoy listening to VT, and see what the future brings! Don't get me wrong I love the songs on VT but there is no clarity and separation of instruments and if you try to crank it sounds like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnotes Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I can't remember Are you allowed/able to post mp3's here??? I would like to post the "re processed" one i just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Surely much of the problem is the multi-tracking of bass and guitar? How many layers of guitar are on there, wasn't it fifty or something crazy like that? Too much going on and not enough space! Edited September 10, 2011 by New Digital Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 the thing about VT is that even with a proper remix and remaster, it's still going to sound more or less like a wall of distortion because Alex and Geddy put so many layers of guitars and bass on each song. The songs I'd like to hear cleaned up the most are "How It Is" and "The Stars Look Down". The level of noise and clipping in 'How...' is expecially horrendous. And I really like that song too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (New Digital Man @ Sep 10 2011, 09:25 AM) Surely much of the problem is the multi-tracking of bass and guitar? How many layers of guitar are on there, wasn't it fifty or something crazy like that? Too much going on and not enough space! I should have commented on your post instead of writing my own saying the same exact thing lol. As far as Rush goes, I actually like their late '80s/early '90s pop sound better than the recent material specifically because the songs had room to breathe and wasn't just a wall of noise. Edited September 10, 2011 by jnoble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestyk Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) I guess I envy the people who just don't have the ears to hear the atrocious sound of this CD. I remember when I downloaded the leaked MP3 files, before the album came out, I knew something was very wrong. Even MP3's couldn't sound that bad. Sure enough when I bought the CD, on release day, it sounded just as horrible. I like almost all the songs on it but I've only been able to listen to it twice. I can't wait until the remaster comes out! Edited September 12, 2011 by Majestyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I feel like a fell in a time warp. There are numerous threads and analysis of the VT "problem". In short, IMO, the sound is not optimum, is distorted, and the article referenced above was indeed a good analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Nah, the sound is perfect as is every track on every album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think it probably could do with sounding a little more METAL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCFIELDS Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Sep 11 2011, 06:39 PM) I feel like a fell in a time warp. There are numerous threads and analysis of the VT "problem". In short, IMO, the sound is not optimum, is distorted, and the article referenced above was indeed a good analysis. yeah really......there should be a thread pinned and the title bolded.....man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromancer Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't have any great sound-equipment, so I probably don't notice whatever problems with the recording that there might be, but if there's to be a remixing, I want to hear the shit out of it I love several of the songs on that album, and if they're to be improved, that's fine with me, as long as the band thinks it needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaco Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 QUOTE (jnoble @ Sep 10 2011, 04:35 PM) QUOTE (New Digital Man @ Sep 10 2011, 09:25 AM) Surely much of the problem is the multi-tracking of bass and guitar? How many layers of guitar are on there, wasn't it fifty or something crazy like that? Too much going on and not enough space! I should have commented on your post instead of writing my own saying the same exact thing lol. As far as Rush goes, I actually like their late '80s/early '90s pop sound better than the recent material specifically because the songs had room to breathe and wasn't just a wall of noise. +1 Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druid13 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I remember reading some people returning/exchanging their CD like 7 times...some claimed to have gotten better sounding versions...which was ridiculous because they ALL sounded smashed and bashed. This CD needs a re-do in the mixing and mastering...no way around it. Alex should not have gone to the beach/golfing....he was listening to a walkman after a few tequillas thinking it sounded great. Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 VT sounds fine to me. It just the songs themselves that don't do much for me, with a few exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Sep 13 2011, 09:39 AM) VT sounds fine to me. It just the songs themselves that don't do much for me, with a few exceptions. The songs, to me, are marginal. I just can't feel the energy except for the opening track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (Gompers @ Sep 13 2011, 09:52 AM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Sep 13 2011, 09:39 AM) VT sounds fine to me. It just the songs themselves that don't do much for me, with a few exceptions. The songs, to me, are marginal. I just can't feel the energy except for the opening track. Yeah, for me the energy is in the opening track, plus Earthshine and Freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Sep 13 2011, 09:56 AM) Chemistry Seems to me that is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 When it first came out I was just so happy that Rush was back that I didn't care about the sound and it was only later that I started to listen with a more discerning ear. No separation, too loud, almost no unique isolated Geddy bass moments. I was stunned to find out there was acoustic guitar on it. The versions on Retrospective 3 show that it can be fixed. I look forward to that and all the arguments to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 it sounds like bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbirdsong Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Hmmm, smells good, but no sound is evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmejim Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Yup, can't wait for the remixed version. Love the songs-up on my top 5 favourite Rush albums- but it does sound awful. No wonder Paul Northfield hasn't had much work of note since. He was a great producer up until then. Lots of really good albums with his name on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Can't take thread seriously when OP's avatar is flashing .gif of Dog Years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (drbirdsong @ Sep 13 2011, 06:53 PM) Hmmm, smells good, but no sound is evident. you don't hear it crackling in the frying pan? Edited September 15, 2011 by Rushman14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vprtrls Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I wonder if the vinyl album has the same issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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