Tarkus406 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Okay read first. Here's the scenario. You're brought into a window-less room and presented with a button. You are told that if you press that button, someone on the opposite side of the building will be electrocuted. Not killed, just given a massive amount of pain. Then you will be given a large sum of money. Would you do it, knowing you'd be hurting someone badly? And if you ask "well how much money?" your answer is obviously Yes, because it's not about the amount of money, just whether or not you'd do it. The person you'd be zapping, you will never see or know. A totally normal innocent person just like yourself. They would still be alive afterward, but may possibly suffer some nerve damage. Decide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I chose no. I love money and all...but nobody else but me should suffer for me to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Oh my God, no, I couldn't do that. I couldn't hurt anyone. I chose 'no'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Electrocution, by definition, means you are killing the person. Shocking is what you are describing and as shocking () as it sounds, I already do this for free. I will shuffle my feet across a carpet and sneak up behind you and touch you on the back of your arm. Bwah ha ha ha ha ha..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaye Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'd be interested to see if anyone here would actually say yes to this question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeamusWiles Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 this is just like that movie "The Box"... which as I recall was pretty sh-tty film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good,bad,andrush Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeOhBe Bob Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ May 1 2011, 03:06 PM) Electrocution, by definition, means you are killing the person. Shocking is what you are describing and as shocking () as it sounds, I already do this for free. I will shuffle my feet across a carpet and sneak up behind you and touch you on the back of your arm. Bwah ha ha ha ha ha..... Somehow this news doesn't shock me Har har hardy har har! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of the 7 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Would I do it to anyone? No. Would I let you do it to me? How much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMWriter Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Oh, man, I totally didn't read the entire first post. Ooops. Now I have to re-think everything. Don't think I'd like to have that on my conscience -- knowing they would be going through so much pain and torture, even if they didn't die. But if we're talking millions, like enough to save lives... Wouldn't that be a different story? But I'd rather sacrifice myself and push the button for ME. A jolt to save others? No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarJetman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Isn't this basically a variation of the Milgram experiment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 QUOTE (StellarJetman @ May 2 2011, 08:56 AM) Isn't this basically a variation of the Milgram experiment? No, not really. The Milgram Experiment tested the willingness of people to obey an authority figure....even though their orders went against their moral objections. 65% of the test subjects completed the test, even though they believed that they had administered great pain to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well, how much money are we talking here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 If I can pick the person.... possibly, seeing one on my list was just supposedly knocked off yesterday Not to any random person someone else chooses.... given the fact it could be my wife, son or daughter... not a chance. Plus I couldn't live with myself knowing I harmed someone for money. I don't see how people that get behind the wheel drunk and kill someone can live like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 In general, no, but their are a couple of evil people I know of I would electrocute for free. Yup, I am serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verena Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I'm sure I want hurt anyone. And the person on the opposite side of the building could be someone I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janie Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 1 2011, 11:27 AM) Okay read first. Here's the scenario. You're brought into a window-less room and presented with a button. You are told that if you press that button, someone on the opposite side of the building will be electrocuted. Not killed, just given a massive amount of pain. Then you will be given a large sum of money. Would you do it, knowing you'd be hurting someone badly? And if you ask "well how much money?" your answer is obviously Yes, because it's not about the amount of money, just whether or not you'd do it. The person you'd be zapping, you will never see or know. A totally normal innocent person just like yourself. They would still be alive afterward, but may possibly suffer some nerve damage. Decide! Oh jeez, seriously? No. Emphatically, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Alright so it still looks like 10% of you chumpies would actually do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeranacoke Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Hmm, I believe I have seen video of this experiment actually being conducted. The "lab rats" could not see the subjects they were shocking but were able to hear them in their pain. I do believe the reward was money. The higher the lab rat shocked the subject the greater the reward. If I remember right almost everyone shocked the subject to some degree or another. The subjects were actors and not actually being tortured. I will see if I can find a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandDesigner Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeranacoke Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 The Milgram experiments, were first done in the 60s, then again in the 70s. It has also been re-created in video. And re-imagined in this past decade. The first two Milgram experiments did not depend on money as the stimulus but authoritarianism. In the later one conducted in the past decade the stimulus was a possibility of being on television. In all the experiments the results were that at least 65% of the were willing to go to the highest voltage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment FYI before the experiment it was guessed that 3 to 5 % of the test subjects would go that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USB Connector Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 No, but there is one person who screwed up a certain education system that I would press the button for the right price. ONLY for that one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgeranacoke Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 1 2011, 01:28 PM) I chose no. I love money and all...but nobody else but me should suffer for me to get it We all do this every day. We compete for jobs. Sorry Boss, I do not want to take that promotion and pay raise, give to Jimmy you know he would enjoy the money more than I. Getting a shock would only be a few seconds of pain for the subject. You getting the promotion over Jimmy may cause longer pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I believe every "yes" answer but not the no's. If poor enough I'd do it. But I guess that wasn't the scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkus406 Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 QUOTE (burgeranacoke @ May 2 2011, 10:29 PM) QUOTE (Tarkus406 @ May 1 2011, 01:28 PM) I chose no. I love money and all...but nobody else but me should suffer for me to get it We all do this every day. We compete for jobs. Sorry Boss, I do not want to take that promotion and pay raise, give to Jimmy you know he would enjoy the money more than I. Getting a shock would only be a few seconds of pain for the subject. You getting the promotion over Jimmy may cause longer pain. I'm not applying this to pay raises! Just ELECTRIC SHOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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