Van Halen vs. Van Morrison

[Segue Myles]

[treeduck]

Moondance and Astral Weeks ..... two of the most critically acclaimed albums in the history of modern music, being soundly thumped by a pair of Van Halen albums ..... ya have to laugh! (or perhaps cry)

We can't just plump for everything that's critically acclaimed can we? That would be fake as f**k, just pretending you like it because the critics love it. Is that rock n roll to you? Would you prefer it if everybody just turned around suddenly and said "Yes let's all vote for Van Morrison whether we like it or not, and anything else that's critically acclaimed! And now we're all going out and buying any albums that are "critically acclaimed" and we're gonna spend the rest of out lives listening to it, and searching for polls like this to make sure we vote for all the "critically acclaimed" albums.

 

Something being critically acclaimed has never held much weight for me when it comes to what I will listen to. It's usually based on what I hear from the artist and what their fans think about their albums.

Err ..... all fine and dandy chaps .... but ...... the two albums are bloody good!! It's a bit like me saying to you Treeduck hey why do you rate Return To Forever? Sure they are critically acclaimed so you must just like them because of that.!!! No, you like them because they are great. The two Morrison albums are also great. When it boils down to music, i have never been fake as f**k in my f**king life chief.

It's you who's talking about albums that are critically acclaimed, I've never mentioned it. I never even think about it normally. It makes no difference to me if an album is popular, unpopular, critically acclaimed or not.

 

Think back to the 70's. Black Sabbath used to be thought of as a joke band by the critics, it's only been in retrospect in the last 20 years that Sabbath have been acclaimed by critics. They're still the same band to me though.

I made a flippant comment, mentioned the acclaimed thing (which is fact) and then get jumped on. Don't make any odds to me whether critics like something, or whether the act is the biggest thing on the planet, I like purely on my own tastes and preferences. Just don't expect to get called a fake on the strength of a one-liner!!

Now you're putting words into my mouth. I was just asking the question, should we all just praise all the critically acclaimed albums, after your shock at the poll results so far. You shouldn't be shocked though when Van Halen win a poll against Van Morrison on a mostly prog rock/hard rock forum.

Sorry, just rubbed me up the wrong way .... if you knew me (which will happen if we keep gabbing on the forum!) .... if anything, I go for music which is not popularly acclaimed ..... like to be different. Take Rush for instance .... over the years there have been a load of 'Rush haters' .... that made me like them even more!

You're just a misunderstood metalhead who shops at Morrisons in honour of Van Morrison the founder of Morrisons...

[treeduck]

Moondance and Astral Weeks ..... two of the most critically acclaimed albums in the history of modern music, being soundly thumped by a pair of Van Halen albums ..... ya have to laugh! (or perhaps cry)

We can't just plump for everything that's critically acclaimed can we? That would be fake as f**k, just pretending you like it because the critics love it. Is that rock n roll to you? Would you prefer it if everybody just turned around suddenly and said "Yes let's all vote for Van Morrison whether we like it or not, and anything else that's critically acclaimed! And now we're all going out and buying any albums that are "critically acclaimed" and we're gonna spend the rest of out lives listening to it, and searching for polls like this to make sure we vote for all the "critically acclaimed" albums.

 

Something being critically acclaimed has never held much weight for me when it comes to what I will listen to. It's usually based on what I hear from the artist and what their fans think about their albums.

Err ..... all fine and dandy chaps .... but ...... the two albums are bloody good!! It's a bit like me saying to you Treeduck hey why do you rate Return To Forever? Sure they are critically acclaimed so you must just like them because of that.!!! No, you like them because they are great. The two Morrison albums are also great. When it boils down to music, i have never been fake as f**k in my f**king life chief.

 

Where did I accuse you of being fake in your musical tastes? And I wasn't jumping on you with my comment. Just merely stating the fact that Van Halen being so massively popular is the reason they're winning this. They've simply had a bigger impact on fans and the music world overall.

Not you!!!! It was more Treeduck i was gassing at!!!! ..... But i'm over it lol!!

You better be over it!

[zepphead]

Moondance and Astral Weeks ..... two of the most critically acclaimed albums in the history of modern music, being soundly thumped by a pair of Van Halen albums ..... ya have to laugh! (or perhaps cry)

We can't just plump for everything that's critically acclaimed can we? That would be fake as f**k, just pretending you like it because the critics love it. Is that rock n roll to you? Would you prefer it if everybody just turned around suddenly and said "Yes let's all vote for Van Morrison whether we like it or not, and anything else that's critically acclaimed! And now we're all going out and buying any albums that are "critically acclaimed" and we're gonna spend the rest of out lives listening to it, and searching for polls like this to make sure we vote for all the "critically acclaimed" albums.

 

Something being critically acclaimed has never held much weight for me when it comes to what I will listen to. It's usually based on what I hear from the artist and what their fans think about their albums.

Err ..... all fine and dandy chaps .... but ...... the two albums are bloody good!! It's a bit like me saying to you Treeduck hey why do you rate Return To Forever? Sure they are critically acclaimed so you must just like them because of that.!!! No, you like them because they are great. The two Morrison albums are also great. When it boils down to music, i have never been fake as f**k in my f**king life chief.

 

Where did I accuse you of being fake in your musical tastes? And I wasn't jumping on you with my comment. Just merely stating the fact that Van Halen being so massively popular is the reason they're winning this. They've simply had a bigger impact on fans and the music world overall.

Not you!!!! It was more Treeduck i was gassing at!!!! ..... But i'm over it lol!!

You better be over it!

[J2112YYZ]

I will say that this thread has got me interested in hearing those two Van Morrison albums. That's why I love this forum. Sometimes a discussion will get me to listen to something I never would have thought about before.

[zepphead]

I will say that this thread has got me interested in hearing those two Van Morrison albums. That's why I love this forum. Sometimes a discussion will get me to listen to something I never would have thought about before.

Since i joined TRF I have been pleasantly surprised at the diversity of subjects, and as you say, it encourages the listening of new stuff. (Ironically, bearing in mind previous comments, TRF has got me listening to Van Halen albums!!)

[treeduck]

I will say that this thread has got me interested in hearing those two Van Morrison albums. That's why I love this forum. Sometimes a discussion will get me to listen to something I never would have thought about before.

Since i joined TRF I have been pleasantly surprised at the diversity of subjects, and as you say, it encourages the listening of new stuff. (Ironically, bearing in mind previous comments, TRF has got me listening to Van Halen albums!!)

And Devo.

[_hi_water._]

Van Morrison all the way, it's not even close

can't tell if serious

[J2112YYZ]

Van Morrison all the way, it's not even close

can't tell if serious

 

Why wouldn't he be serious? Morrison has had a longer and more prolific career. It's believable that someone would like him better.

[tangy]

its a beautiful night for an eruption........

[goose]

Moondance and Astral Weeks ..... two of the most critically acclaimed albums in the history of modern music, being soundly thumped by a pair of Van Halen albums ..... ya have to laugh! (or perhaps cry)

We can't just plump for everything that's critically acclaimed can we? That would be fake as f**k, just pretending you like it because the critics love it. Is that rock n roll to you? Would you prefer it if everybody just turned around suddenly and said "Yes let's all vote for Van Morrison whether we like it or not, and anything else that's critically acclaimed! And now we're all going out and buying any albums that are "critically acclaimed" and we're gonna spend the rest of out lives listening to it, and searching for polls like this to make sure we vote for all the "critically acclaimed" albums.

 

Something being critically acclaimed has never held much weight for me when it comes to what I will listen to. It's usually based on what I hear from the artist and what their fans think about their albums.

Err ..... all fine and dandy chaps .... but ...... the two albums are bloody good!! It's a bit like me saying to you Treeduck hey why do you rate Return To Forever? Sure they are critically acclaimed so you must just like them because of that.!!! No, you like them because they are great. The two Morrison albums are also great. When it boils down to music, i have never been fake as f**k in my f**king life chief.

 

Where did I accuse you of being fake in your musical tastes? And I wasn't jumping on you with my comment. Just merely stating the fact that Van Halen being so massively popular is the reason they're winning this. They've simply had a bigger impact on fans and the music world overall.

 

The hard rock world, sure. But Van Morrison cuts a much wider swath.

[goose]

Van Morrison all the way, it's not even close

can't tell if serious

 

Why wouldn't he be serious? Morrison has had a longer and more prolific career. It's believable that someone would like him better.

Yep. Plenty of people do, in fact. I dig Van Halen,but their music is mostly pretty dumb and no album in their catalog approaches Moondance in an artistic sense.

[goose]

For the record...

 

VH

Moondance

Fair Warning

[bathory]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

[goose]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

I own one Van morrison album and more than a dozen VH efforts in various formats

[bathory]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

I own one Van morrison album and more than a dozen VH efforts in various formats

 

I'd like to someday explore more than just the 2 records everyone has heard, but I'm too busy drinking beer and cranking fair warning

[bathory]

I thought about getting a fair warning shirt

[blueschica]

Van the Man !! Although I do love Van Halen. :ebert:

[goose]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

I own one Van morrison album and more than a dozen VH efforts in various formats

 

I'd like to someday explore more than just the 2 records everyone has heard, but I'm too busy drinking beer and cranking fair warning

[goose]

Funny that between David Lee Roth, the VH brothers and Van Morrison, Van Morrison is the biggest asshole.

[_hi_water._]

Funny that between David Lee Roth, the VH brothers and Van Morrison, Van Morrison is the biggest asshole.

who's more of an asshole? Van Morrison, Kid Rock or Ted Nugent?

 

:P

[Entre_Perpetuo]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

I own one Van morrison album and more than a dozen VH efforts in various formats

 

I'd like to someday explore more than just the 2 records everyone has heard, but I'm too busy drinking beer and cranking fair warning

 

His Band And Street Choir is a goodie. To my ears a much brighter and more sunshiney affair than Moondance, but still of course much more reigned in than Astral Weeks.

[zepphead]

Funny that between David Lee Roth, the VH brothers and Van Morrison, Van Morrison is the biggest asshole.

No doubt about that!! :LMAO:

[zepphead]

Funny that between David Lee Roth, the VH brothers and Van Morrison, Van Morrison is the biggest asshole.

who's more of an asshole? Van Morrison, Kid Rock or Ted Nugent?

 

:P

Kind like the Olympics of assholes!

[zepphead]

love em both. I'm a rocker first though

I own one Van morrison album and more than a dozen VH efforts in various formats

 

I'd like to someday explore more than just the 2 records everyone has heard, but I'm too busy drinking beer and cranking fair warning

 

His Band And Street Choir is a goodie. To my ears a much brighter and more sunshiney affair than Moondance, but still of course much more reigned in than Astral Weeks.

Veedon Fleece and Saint Dominic's Preview are also worth a listen.